Indykev Posted January 15, 2019 Report Share Posted January 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, rico said: No, a majority of my frustration is why Damezi and Jake don't see the floor. They aren't ready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted January 15, 2019 Report Share Posted January 15, 2019 Just now, Shooter said: . This game was never a gimme. It was for the Huskers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev_AK Posted January 15, 2019 Report Share Posted January 15, 2019 This was, I think, the worst game that Archie has coached. At least we can say he is devoted to his guys. Poor Fitzner... really shouldn’t play. The substitutions in the first half were rapid fire, I hope, in a desperate attempt to find a spark? I can’t decide if I’m so deflated because I feel like this season is now officially “on the brink”, or because we are going to waste a season with Romeo. There are already those here in New Albany saying he would have been better off at U of L. At this point I can’t defend it. Demoralizing. I have to wonder, if they are trying to hold out some kind of fools hope that Jerome can come back, but I heard him tell Fisch he was redshirting. AnD the Colts lost. AAANNND the Patriots won. Perhaps I should pay less attention to sports and try a new hobby, politics anyone??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milehi Fan Posted January 15, 2019 Report Share Posted January 15, 2019 12 minutes ago, milehiiu said: Normally teams that have not been descimated by injury after injury as has IU this year, start coming into their own, by this time of year. Coaches have had the opportunity to figure out rotations, etc. Arch has not had that luxury. You all saw tonight that he is still working on it, while other coaches like Miles, have had the luxury to figure it out. Arch has done a great job with guys out. Now... it's time to give him a break, as he tries to figure out how to work the injured back into a viable rotation. Just watched the post game presser with CAM. Gotta admit, would have like to hear him take more responsibility and lay less at the players feet. At the end of the day, he is responsible for everything basketball related. Too much we and not enough I. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted January 15, 2019 Report Share Posted January 15, 2019 1 minute ago, 5fouls said: Let's get one thing straight. We can make a case that the injuries cost us against Maryland, but they had absolutely zero impact on tonight's game. Tonight was all about a lack of preparation, a lack of effort, and a lack of heart. I would counter with Archie doesn't know how to coach. And I am serious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indykev Posted January 15, 2019 Report Share Posted January 15, 2019 15 minutes ago, iuthruandthru said: I’m glad I sold my tickets to games I couldn’t go to before the losing streak 😂 You have anymore after tonight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drroogh Posted January 15, 2019 Report Share Posted January 15, 2019 7 minutes ago, FW_Hoosier said: Totally embarrassing. We’ve seen some defensive improvement since Archie got here, but the offense is so atrocious that I’m starting to wonder whether the coaching change has been a net positive as far as in-game coaching goes. Not sure this offensive system will ever work in the big leagues. Obviously Archie has done a much better job recruiting, but honestly, I think Crean would be winning more with this roster. We’re wasting a generational talent on a bubble team... and like 5fouls alluded to, we’re probably going to be worse next year. That’s hard to swallow. Wonder if Archie called Tim Miles “Daddy” in the handshake line? Have to totally disagree!!!!! And I will add a CraighHoops memorial !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted January 15, 2019 Report Share Posted January 15, 2019 1 minute ago, Indykev said: They aren't ready. Fitzner ain't ready, McRoberts ain't ready......what exactly are you saying? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyHoosier Posted January 15, 2019 Report Share Posted January 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, FW_Hoosier said: Yes, we can hardly expect IU to hang with mighty Nebraska at home when we’re missing the great Al Durham and two freshmen rotation players who have never played a meaningful minute for IU. The injury excuse is total BS at this point. Its NEBRASKA! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted January 15, 2019 Report Share Posted January 15, 2019 11 minutes ago, Artesian_86 said: .......I know, right, ....iuthruandthru? Many of our complaining fans (who are wielding pitchforks and torches) should REALLY take notice of the Crean recruited players vs. Miller recruited players. I feel you will quickly be suprised as to how many "Crean recruited" players, currently on this team, who are the majority of our frustrations. Granted, Archie is the head coach, but sometimes non-recruited players never buy in.... Our best player tonight was Morgan which was a Crean recruit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shooter Posted January 15, 2019 Report Share Posted January 15, 2019 5 minutes ago, rico said: No, a majority of my frustration is why Damezi and Jake don't see the floor. Damezi is a shooter who can't guard anyone, did you watch the Arkansas game? The 20+ minutes he had to play that day due to injuries were a huge factor in us losing that game. If we are just throwing stuff at the wall, sure give McRoberts' minutes to Damezi, but I don't think it's going to make a big difference. One is a walk on and one is a freshman, they both should be injury depth and practice players on a good team, unfortunately we do have injuries and one of them has to play significant minutes. I thought Forrester was hurt, but if not he's clearly behind Moore in the rotation who is barely playing himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artesian_86 Posted January 15, 2019 Report Share Posted January 15, 2019 6 minutes ago, Indykev said: They are who they are no matter who the coach is. Good Athletes, soft players ,that can't shoot. Crean loved those type players in the end. .....need I say more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iufaninand Posted January 15, 2019 Report Share Posted January 15, 2019 I don’t understand why we can’t play with a little up tempo offense? It’s obvious that he’s running everything for juwan and Romeo in a half court set. Everyone knows it...the opposing coaches know they only have to shutdown 2 players. If he can’t find some shooters we’re in for a long season. Play some on the bench please!!! I don’t understand why Fitzner minutes can’t go to Clifton??? How worse can it be? McRoberts is a shell and should be relegated to cheering from the sideline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indykev Posted January 15, 2019 Report Share Posted January 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, rico said: Fitzner ain't ready, McRoberts ain't ready......what exactly are you saying? I'm saying you are talking crazy talk right now. I would like to see more Jake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drroogh Posted January 15, 2019 Report Share Posted January 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, IU Scott said: Our best player tonight was Morgan which was a Crean recruit Who happens to be 100 times the player he was under Crean! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CauseThatsMyDJ Posted January 15, 2019 Report Share Posted January 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, iufaninand said: I don’t understand why we can’t play with a little up tempo offense? It’s obvious that he’s running everything for juwan and Romeo in a half court set. Everyone knows it...the opposing coaches know they only have to shutdown 2 players. If he can’t find some shooters we’re in for a long season. Play some on the bench please!!! I don’t understand why Fitzner minutes can’t go to Clifton??? How worse can it be? McRoberts is a shell and should be relegated to cheering from the sideline. Only shooter he can find is Damezi. He's the only other option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbmhoosier Posted January 15, 2019 Report Share Posted January 15, 2019 8 minutes ago, Milehi Fan said: Just watched the post game presser with CAM. Gotta admit, would have like to hear him take more responsibility and lay less at the players feet. At the end of the day, he is responsible for everything basketball related. Too much we and not enough I. Cal threw his players under the bus after their Seton Hall loss and it worked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iufaninand Posted January 15, 2019 Report Share Posted January 15, 2019 Just now, CauseThatsMyDJ said: Only shooter he can find is Damezi. He's the only other option. Understood and I think it’s worth trying. He has some work to do and he’s a freshman, but how can it be any worse? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FWIUFan Posted January 15, 2019 Report Share Posted January 15, 2019 6 minutes ago, milehiiu said: Normally teams that have not been descimated by injury after injury as has IU this year, start coming into their own, by this time of year. Coaches have had the opportunity to figure out rotations, etc. Arch has not had that luxury. You all saw tonight that he is still working on it, while other coaches like Miles, have had the luxury to figure it out. Arch has done a great job with guys out. Now... it's time to give him a break, as he tries to figure out how to work the injured back into a viable rotation. Mile, I have finally vomited the Kool-Aid I drank earlier. I no longer think this was just an off night. There is no way to put lip stick on this pig. I have to respectfully disagree with you. For inexplicable reasons ongoing since last yr, CAM has a an aversion to playing the younger players even minimal minutes. With the injury situation, CAM should be giving Moore, Forrester, and Anderson game time minutes to slowly get them to be more of a part of the rotation. I simply don't know why he can't see the Fitz is just not the player he anticipated and needs to sit.. Davis is too injured as is McBob. My eyes tell me they need to sit until healed. As I have stated earlier, DG is fool's gold. JS is still inconsistent but somewhat improved. If we are going to lose anyway, experience for the young players will help us come late Feb and March. I also am disappointed in CAM and his staff for not being willing to sit guys with lazy attitudes as demonstrated by lackadaisical passes, jogging on D after bad plays. He needs to show some more fire and hold players accountable. And the consistent slow starts has to fall on coaching at this point. I like the idea a the players calling a meeting as mentioned earlier. The team is fundamentally flawed with lack of outside shooting. After tonight, I also fear they lack grit and determination. Teams will pack the paint and let us shoot 3's and Jump shots all day but not allow drives. I see us finishing 5-7 range in BIG at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowhunter Posted January 15, 2019 Report Share Posted January 15, 2019 Free Jake!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3Ballin Posted January 15, 2019 Report Share Posted January 15, 2019 32 minutes ago, 5fouls said: Al was not ready to play tonight. Worst performance I've ever seen from him during the first half. No, like where was he? He wasnt on the game or on the bench the whole 2nd half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iufaninand Posted January 15, 2019 Report Share Posted January 15, 2019 I think we’re going to struggle all year long against teams that can shot from 3. You can’t trade 2s fir 3s all game long and win. Again, I think we looked best when Romeo was pushing the ball. Half court, stagnant offense is exactly why we start slow and 3 of the 5 players look disinterested. Why has Rob not taken a shot fir 2 games? You can’t tell me his confidence has taken that big of hit since being injured. I think they’ve all been told to pass until Juwan or Romeo can get an open shot. That leads to a lot of apathy for other players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iuthruandthru Posted January 15, 2019 Report Share Posted January 15, 2019 16 minutes ago, Indykev said: You have anymore after tonight? Lol, no I am still hitting up the games I can go to 😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted January 15, 2019 Report Share Posted January 15, 2019 14 minutes ago, rico said: I would counter with Archie doesn't know how to coach. And I am serious. Come on dude. Love you but this isn't right. We have 2-3 factions going on right now on the 14th of January. I'm as ticked as anyone but I'm now going to have back away and watch what Archie does. My biggest concern is that why when we start our sets is Justin Smith touching the ball 20 feet away. Nebraska sagged off of that all night. RP still isn't back yet and Romeo/Juwan can only carry so much. There are 2-3 guys that just shouldn't be seeing the court but because of injuries they are. 4 of the next 5 on the road with lone home game vs Michigan. Things going to get real serious real quick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shooter Posted January 15, 2019 Report Share Posted January 15, 2019 1 minute ago, 3Ballin said: No, like where was he? He wasnt on the game or on the bench the whole 2nd half. Foot/ankle injury late first half. Archie said he couldn't go in the second half. Just what we need, more injuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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