Steubenhoosier Posted August 16, 2019 Report Share Posted August 16, 2019 Late to the conversation, as is often the case. Putting aside the fact that one certain member's head may explode when he reads this, I'm copying an article dated in 2018 that takes an analytical approach in explaining/dissecting the ever growing use of relief pitchers. I thought this was also good because it touches on the topic of putting the ball in play vs not. At any rate....it's Friday afternoon, and nothing wrong with lighting the fuse for another 10 pages of back and forth. 😀 https://www.samford.edu/sports-analytics/fans/2018/Call-to-the-Bullpen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted August 16, 2019 Report Share Posted August 16, 2019 36 minutes ago, Steubenhoosier said: Late to the conversation, as is often the case. Putting aside the fact that one certain member's head may explode when he reads this, I'm copying an article dated in 2018 that takes an analytical approach in explaining/dissecting the ever growing use of relief pitchers. I thought this was also good because it touches on the topic of putting the ball in play vs not. At any rate....it's Friday afternoon, and nothing wrong with lighting the fuse for another 10 pages of back and forth. 😀 https://www.samford.edu/sports-analytics/fans/2018/Call-to-the-Bullpen I know this is what sports has become but to me it is sad that when talking about sports we have to use graphs to explain it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted August 16, 2019 Report Share Posted August 16, 2019 45 minutes ago, IU Scott said: I know this is what sports has become but to me it is sad that when talking about sports we have to use graphs to explain it. I understand, Scott. But you have to realize that managers and front office types have been using rudimentary analytics since the early days of baseball. All sports really. It's just more advanced now, because it should, statistically, give your team an advantage, even if that advantage is ever so slight. Pennants have been won or lost by 1 game. If I'm a manager, I'm going to use them to my advantage. My job might depend on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted August 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Steubenhoosier said: Late to the conversation, as is often the case. Putting aside the fact that one certain member's head may explode when he reads this, I'm copying an article dated in 2018 that takes an analytical approach in explaining/dissecting the ever growing use of relief pitchers. I thought this was also good because it touches on the topic of putting the ball in play vs not. At any rate....it's Friday afternoon, and nothing wrong with lighting the fuse for another 10 pages of back and forth. 😀 https://www.samford.edu/sports-analytics/fans/2018/Call-to-the-Bullpen That Sir, is one great find...but where is the "eye test?" LOL Thanks for posting it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted August 16, 2019 Report Share Posted August 16, 2019 3 hours ago, rico said: Seems the Pirates are every team's cure these days.... The Cubs need 2 out of 3 from them... Glad this version isn't the old Lumber Company... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted August 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2019 49 minutes ago, IU Scott said: I know this is what sports has become but to me it is sad that when talking about sports we have to use graphs to explain it. Stats have been around before were even thought of...statistics have, more often than not, proven what a successful team is. It has just been taken to another level. Embrace today's game or watch highlights of the 1972 World Series...that is up to you. But your arguments are falling on a lot of deaf ears. And I am older than you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted August 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2019 Just now, IUFLA said: The Cubs need 2 out of 3 from them... Glad this version isn't the old Lumber Company... A sweep would be the bomb... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted August 16, 2019 Report Share Posted August 16, 2019 Just now, rico said: Stats have been around before were even thought of...statistics have, more often than not, proven what a successful team is. It has just been taken to another level. Embrace today's game or watch highlights of the 1972 World Series...that is up to you. But your arguments are falling on a lot of deaf ears. And I am older than you. I know stats has been around and the basic stats are fine and use them but it is the advanced metrics I am talking about. For me and it is just my opinion sports are about competition and entertainment and to me people are trying to make sports to sterile. I am thinking in the future you will have to have an Economics degree to watch sports. I had to deal with way to many graphs in my Managerial Economics class and it is bringing back bad memories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted August 16, 2019 Report Share Posted August 16, 2019 4 minutes ago, rico said: Stats have been around before were even thought of...statistics have, more often than not, proven what a successful team is. It has just been taken to another level. Embrace today's game or watch highlights of the 1972 World Series...that is up to you. But your arguments are falling on a lot of deaf ears. And I am older than you. Mention that 72 series to my Reds friends and I'd get a rousing "%@&g Gene Tenace." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted August 16, 2019 Report Share Posted August 16, 2019 12 minutes ago, IUFLA said: The Cubs need 2 out of 3 from them... Glad this version isn't the old Lumber Company... St. Louis just swept them so the Cubs need to do it as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted August 16, 2019 Report Share Posted August 16, 2019 4 minutes ago, IU Scott said: St. Louis just swept them so the Cubs need to do it as well Oh, I'd take one of those Hendricks going tonight. He lasted all of 2 2/3 last game (against those damn pesky Reds) so he should be fresh. Just hope he has his command... Wonder if there's going to be a continuation of the bad blood between the two team tonight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted August 16, 2019 Report Share Posted August 16, 2019 6 hours ago, rico said: Anybody know how many games the Cubs have lost this year after leading 7 innings? 875,000 in dog losses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted August 16, 2019 Report Share Posted August 16, 2019 6 minutes ago, IUFLA said: Oh, I'd take one of those Hendricks going tonight. He lasted all of 2 2/3 last game (against those damn pesky Reds) so he should be fresh. Just hope he has his command... Wonder if there's going to be a continuation of the bad blood between the two team tonight? You guys have bad blood with the Pirates as well? You cubs fans should be rooting for those Pesky Reds this weekend since they are playing St. Louis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted August 16, 2019 Report Share Posted August 16, 2019 32 minutes ago, rico said: A sweep would be the bomb... And still wouldn't make some of us happy. This road s--- has to end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted August 16, 2019 Report Share Posted August 16, 2019 7 minutes ago, IU Scott said: You guys have bad blood with the Pirates as well? You cubs fans should be rooting for those Pesky Reds this weekend since they are playing St. Louis. Cubs called out Hurdle's BS a few years ago....and that was after Maddon let a few slide by because he and Hurdle have him lifelong friend. Given the mood of the Cubs...wouldn't shock me a bit to see brawl tonight or Saturday. Sunday they play at Williamsport so no fighting in front of the kids. Right?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted August 16, 2019 Report Share Posted August 16, 2019 1 minute ago, Seeking6 said: Cubs called out Hurdle's BS a few years ago....and that was after Maddon let a few slide by because he and Hurdle have him lifelong friend. Given the mood of the Cubs...wouldn't shock me a bit to see brawl tonight or Saturday. Sunday they play at Williamsport so no fighting in front of the kids. Right?? I think most teams don't like the Pirates because they are a dirty team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted August 16, 2019 Report Share Posted August 16, 2019 22 minutes ago, Seeking6 said: Cubs called out Hurdle's BS a few years ago....and that was after Maddon let a few slide by because he and Hurdle have him lifelong friend. Given the mood of the Cubs...wouldn't shock me a bit to see brawl tonight or Saturday. Sunday they play at Williamsport so no fighting in front of the kids. Right?? Teach them younguns chin music! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted August 16, 2019 Report Share Posted August 16, 2019 1 hour ago, IU Scott said: You guys have bad blood with the Pirates as well? You cubs fans should be rooting for those Pesky Reds this weekend since they are playing St. Louis. Go Reds! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted August 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2019 1 hour ago, IU Scott said: I think most teams don't like the Pirates because they are a dirty team. You just figuring that out? There is hope for you!!!! LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted August 16, 2019 Report Share Posted August 16, 2019 Almora sent down to Iowa. Russell called up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted August 16, 2019 Report Share Posted August 16, 2019 12 minutes ago, IUFLA said: Almora sent down to Iowa. Russell called up. Had to do it after Bote error in 9th last night. Need infielder help. Almora was expendable for time being. Maddon put Heyward in for defense (with injury) in 9th but couldn't do it with Bote. Was it the difference? Probably not. Only park in the country where Harper's shot still hasn't landed is named Yellowstone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted August 16, 2019 Report Share Posted August 16, 2019 WTF happened here? 105 posts since this morning? s there something important I missed that I need to catch up on? Did babe Ruth raise from the grave and sign with The Red Sox? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted August 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2019 8 minutes ago, 5fouls said: WTF happened here? 105 posts since this morning? s there something important I missed that I need to catch up on? Did babe Ruth raise from the grave and sign with The Red Sox? Scott happened here...sorry no Ruth, Mantle, or Gehrig...just Scott, although there was a Wall Pipp reference if that makes you feel any better!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted August 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2019 27 minutes ago, IUFLA said: Almora sent down to Iowa. Russell called up. Is that good or bad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted August 16, 2019 Report Share Posted August 16, 2019 10 minutes ago, 5fouls said: WTF happened here? 105 posts since this morning? s there something important I missed that I need to catch up on? Did babe Ruth raise from the grave and sign with The Red Sox? I was thinking the same thing. I posted my normal diatribe about Cubs....went and golfed, stained a deck and I came back to 4 pages. Thought Maddon had been let go. Just normal off season I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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