Seeking6 Posted July 23, 2019 Report Share Posted July 23, 2019 Maybe Steuben can address. Why do I feel like the Twins are still considered a small market team? Minneapolis is huge, plenty of Fortune 500 companies....all 4 sports, host Super Bowls, Final 4's...in a lot of ways similar to Indy but why is it I consider them small?? Really pulling for them in the AL....plus the Yankees. I know, I know it's hypocritical but loved Mattingly growing up. Guess I'll always cheer for them a little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted July 23, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2019 4 minutes ago, Seeking6 said: Maybe Steuben can address. Why do I feel like the Twins are still considered a small market team? Minneapolis is huge, plenty of Fortune 500 companies....all 4 sports, host Super Bowls, Final 4's...in a lot of ways similar to Indy but why is it I consider them small?? Really pulling for them in the AL....plus the Yankees. I know, I know it's hypocritical but loved Mattingly growing up. Guess I'll always cheer for them a little. I will let Steubby address it but I did find this....... https://www.baseball-almanac.com/articles/baseball_markets.shtml Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billingsley99 Posted July 23, 2019 Report Share Posted July 23, 2019 19 minutes ago, Seeking6 said: Maybe Steuben can address. Why do I feel like the Twins are still considered a small market team? Minneapolis is huge, plenty of Fortune 500 companies....all 4 sports, host Super Bowls, Final 4's...in a lot of ways similar to Indy but why is it I consider them small?? Really pulling for them in the AL....plus the Yankees. I know, I know it's hypocritical but loved Mattingly growing up. Guess I'll always cheer for them a little. I want to dislike the Yankees but both boys like them and for the most part they are a young likable team. I like Boone a lot as a manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted July 23, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2019 7 minutes ago, Billingsley99 said: I want to dislike the Yankees but both boys like them and for the most part they are a young likable team. I like Boone a lot as a manager. I will dislike them for both of us!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billingsley99 Posted July 23, 2019 Report Share Posted July 23, 2019 49 minutes ago, rico said: I will dislike them for both of us!!!! Thats a true friend!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted July 23, 2019 Report Share Posted July 23, 2019 After the Reds, I like players more than teams. The only MLB team I truly dislike is the Cardinals. My son could play for St. Louis and I still would not root for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted July 23, 2019 Report Share Posted July 23, 2019 2 hours ago, Seeking6 said: Maybe Steuben can address. Why do I feel like the Twins are still considered a small market team? Minneapolis is huge, plenty of Fortune 500 companies....all 4 sports, host Super Bowls, Final 4's...in a lot of ways similar to Indy but why is it I consider them small?? Really pulling for them in the AL....plus the Yankees. I know, I know it's hypocritical but loved Mattingly growing up. Guess I'll always cheer for them a little. I think a lot of 'market size' is dependent on TV revenue. I'm not exactly sure how that is determined, but I assume that the number of potential viewers based on TV sets has something to do with that. Interestingly enough, Minneapolis is actually behind Tampa in that regard, and absolutely no one considers Tampa a large market team (see link below). https://www.stationindex.com/tv/tv-markets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steubenhoosier Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 The Twin Cities is just the tip of the fan base for the Twins. Any home game in Minneapolis will typically draw fans from the Upper Peninsula, the Dakotas, Iowa, even as far west as Montana. The geographical demographics are definitely not small market. Where the franchise gets the reputation is from a history of ownership with tight wallets. The Twins have always had a reputation of building teams on the cheap. They typically have a strong minor league feeder system only to trade away the talent when it develops and demands more money. Periodically they have built a team both competitive on the field and representative of a major league payroll... the 1991 World Series champions with Hrbek, Puckett, Morris, etc being the last, best example. Unfortunately, the ownership allowed that team to break up and they floundered for the better of the last 25 or so years. Lots of criticism came Management’s way over the perception that Joe Maurer’s career as a Twin was wasted due to ownership cheapness in not bringing enough talent to surround him. The Twins have finally brought in a GM whose vision of building a franchise is more similar to a Theo Epstein. They are developing, and keeping their young talent, at least so far. Guys like Buxton and Kepler came up through the organization and are being paid to stay around. They are strategically spending on free agents and have done a better job identifying players with something left or something to prove. Cruz and Odorizzi are great examples. They are in the position to be buyers here instead of the perennial practice of gutting the team at the end of July. The Twins will never be the Yankees, Cubs, Cardinals or Dodgers in regards to a national following. They probably won’t be as competitive as they are this season every year because economic reality will hit and some of these guys will cash in. I am optimistic though that the leadership in place has a plan and will find enough talent to make a run every few years. They have a manager that the players love— Molitor was a great player and has a great baseball mind, but he was just too rigid. In all, other than the Indians, I think the Twins are positioned for success more than every other team in their division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted July 24, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 1 hour ago, 5fouls said: After the Reds, I like players more than teams. The only MLB team I truly dislike is the Cardinals. My son could play for St. Louis and I still would not root for them. Now that is some "Tuff Love." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted July 24, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 And Suarez strikes again...2-run jack in the top of the 1st. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stlboiler23 Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 4 hours ago, 5fouls said: After the Reds, I like players more than teams. The only MLB team I truly dislike is the Cardinals. My son could play for St. Louis and I still would not root for them. Why such dislike? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted July 24, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 23 minutes ago, Stlboiler23 said: Why such dislike? They litter our highways... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billingsley99 Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 Reds win 2 touchdowns to 2 Field goals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Billingsley99 said: Reds win 2 touchdowns to 2 Field goals Actually.. Brewers missed an extra point. Damn Cody Parkey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 4 hours ago, btownqb said: Actually.. Brewers missed an extra point. Damn Cody Parkey. Lol...I remember turning on a Cubs game back in the 70s...3rd inning it was 17-6 Phillies...Cubs came back and eventually lost, 23-22... Someone quipped on TV the next day (Coppack or Don Hein maybe) "The Cubs missed an extra point." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 8 hours ago, Stlboiler23 said: Why such dislike? What do you mean? I love my son. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 Cubs lose another close one in extras. The Giants are the hottest team in MLB right now. I'm glad Yaztremski's grandson is doing well for them. I always liked Yaz as a player, although Bouton called him out for "dogging it" in "Ball Four" when things weren't going well for the Bosox. Hopefully Lester can salvage a getaway day afternoon game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 7 minutes ago, IUFLA said: Cubs lose another close one in extras. The Giants are the hottest team in MLB right now. I'm glad Yaztremski's grandson is doing well for them. I always liked Yaz as a player, although Bouton called him out for "dogging it" in "Ball Four" when things weren't going well for the Bosox. Hopefully Lester can salvage a getaway day afternoon game. Need one today for sure. Just catching the Giants at a bad time for us. 17-3 over last 20. After today 9 games in a row vs Brewers and Cardinals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stlboiler23 Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 50 minutes ago, 5fouls said: What do you mean? I love my son. Well played haha. Why the dislike for STL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stlboiler23 Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 33 minutes ago, Seeking6 said: Need one today for sure. Just catching the Giants at a bad time for us. 17-3 over last 20. After today 9 games in a row vs Brewers and Cardinals. Pretty shocking the Cardinals are only a half game back. Not upset about it of course but still pretty shocking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 1 minute ago, Stlboiler23 said: Pretty shocking the Cardinals are only a half game back. Not upset about it of course but still pretty shocking. Equally shocking the Cubs aren't 8 games up. Bullpen problems, timely hitting, injuries, missing Zobrist....it's always something so far this year with Cubs. I hope all can get resolved before end of September comes. If not. Early exit again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 Just now, Seeking6 said: Equally shocking the Cubs aren't 8 games up. Bullpen problems, timely hitting, injuries, missing Zobrist....it's always something so far this year with Cubs. I hope all can get resolved before end of September comes. If not. Early exit again. With the Cubs road record, I'm not hopeful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 Just now, IUFLA said: With the Cubs road record, I'm not hopeful. That's the absolute part of this thing that ticks me off. There isn't a better supported team on the road in baseball. Haven't won a road series since mid May? Worst road team in NL and just barely ahead of KC Royals and Baltimore Orioles. Don't need to tell you obviously....but let that sink in. Haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billingsley99 Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 7 hours ago, btownqb said: Actually.. Brewers missed an extra point. Damn Cody Parkey. I just spit out my morning diet dew. Very well played Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 Reds are now 9-1 in games decided by 7 runs or more so we can see why they have a + run differential this year. They also have lost more 1 run games than anyone in baseball with losing 22 games by 1 run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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