BEKA Posted January 19, 2019 Report Share Posted January 19, 2019 This roster is dumb. Archie has done what was asked of him in terms of "locking down the state", but is this one-dimensional approach to recruiting limiting how he can build a roster? I'm not being a smart ass, just a genuine question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyHoosier Posted January 19, 2019 Report Share Posted January 19, 2019 1 minute ago, rico said: Actually, he is better. I disagree strongly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotIThatLives Posted January 19, 2019 Report Share Posted January 19, 2019 6 minutes ago, IU Scott said: No thank you, don't really enjoy the NBA but just wish basketball would go back to playing that way because it is a better way of running your offense. Villanova does it. Golden st had 38 assist the game they dropped 51 in one quarter. Kerr said, "it was beautiful, beautiful basketball." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brass Cannon Posted January 19, 2019 Report Share Posted January 19, 2019 1 minute ago, CincyHoosier said: How does someone watch this and not question the coach? I like Archie but this isunacceptable. Not saying he isn't the right guy but it's fair to question why the hell we get blown out twice in a row by mediocre teams. I defended Fitz and McRoberts all offseason. But I can't fathom why they get any PT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CauseThatsMyDJ Posted January 19, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2019 Just now, BEKA said: This roster is dumb. Archie has done what was asked of him in terms of "locking down the state", but is this one-dimensional approach to recruiting limiting how he can build a roster? I'm not being a smart ass, just a genuine question. Literally ONE of those "lock down the state" classes is on the team, and they are freshman. So no, it's not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUCrazy2 Posted January 19, 2019 Report Share Posted January 19, 2019 3 minutes ago, Seeking6 said: Not even close. Archie will get his guys in here but year 1.3 is not the time to start questioning things. That's why IU is in the position we're in. Be better. Whoa whoa whoa, we are not in the position we are in by being too quick to pull the trigger, it is exactly the opposite. We gave Mike Davis way to much time before he was fired and it took almost a decade of Crean ball and the fanbase being completely off his wagon before the school made a move. I would argue that we are where we are at because we wait too long to pull the plug when it becomes clear that we do not have the answer. I want Archie to succeed but if we are still mediocre in years 3 and 4, he can hit the bricks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indykev Posted January 19, 2019 Report Share Posted January 19, 2019 1 minute ago, BEKA said: This roster is dumb. Archie has done what was asked of him in terms of "locking down the state", but is this one-dimensional approach to recruiting limiting how he can build a roster? I'm not being a smart ass, just a genuine question. Not a question to worry about after a half season of his first recruiting class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad B Posted January 19, 2019 Report Share Posted January 19, 2019 Maybe Romeo will come back next year to show he can hit free throws and handle pressure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTrojan88 Posted January 19, 2019 Report Share Posted January 19, 2019 5 minutes ago, rico said: Actually, he is better. Unfortunately, they are both much better than Archie. He is in over his head Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyHoosier Posted January 19, 2019 Report Share Posted January 19, 2019 1 minute ago, IUCrazy2 said: Whoa whoa whoa, we are not in the position we are in by being too quick to pull the trigger, it is exactly the opposite. We gave Mike Davis way to much time before he was fired and it took almost a decade of Crean ball and the fanbase being completely off his wagon before the school made a move. I would argue that we are where we are at because we wait too long to pull the plug when it becomes clear that we do not have the answer. I want Archie to succeed but if we are still mediocre in years 3 and 4, he can hit the bricks. Agree. If our AD and administration had any balls or foresight or wherewithal they would have canned Crean 2 years earlier and hired Steven's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brass Cannon Posted January 19, 2019 Report Share Posted January 19, 2019 Kelvin Sampson turned the program around in year 2. People need to stop acting like it's irrational and impossible to get a group of kids you didn't recruit to play well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FW_Hoosier Posted January 19, 2019 Report Share Posted January 19, 2019 Just now, Chad B said: Maybe Romeo will come back next year to show he can hit free throws and handle pressure. He really gets upset when he doesn’t get the touch fouls he’s used to getting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rd726 Posted January 19, 2019 Report Share Posted January 19, 2019 MAN, some of these posts 🙄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted January 19, 2019 Report Share Posted January 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, CincyHoosier said: I disagree strongly. Look it up. I have posted about that in the past. Painter has a higher wining % in non con games and a higher wining % in con games. Truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOOSIER1321 Posted January 19, 2019 Report Share Posted January 19, 2019 Just now, IUCrazy2 said: Whoa whoa whoa, we are not in the position we are in by being too quick to pull the trigger, it is exactly the opposite. We gave Mike Davis way to much time before he was fired and it took almost a decade of Crean ball and the fanbase being completely off his wagon before the school made a move. I would argue that we are where we are at because we wait too long to pull the plug when it becomes clear that we do not have the answer. I want Archie to succeed but if we are still mediocre in years 3 and 4, he can hit the bricks. I think this is exactly it. We stuck too long with Crean and Davis. I agree. I hope Miller is the one to turn it around. But we can’t wait 6 to 7 years. He needs to know (and I assume he does) what the standard is. And I for one have no problem saying that standard isn’t being met. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted January 19, 2019 Report Share Posted January 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, IUCrazy2 said: Whoa whoa whoa, we are not in the position we are in by being too quick to pull the trigger, it is exactly the opposite. We gave Mike Davis way to much time before he was fired and it took almost a decade of Crean ball and the fanbase being completely off his wagon before the school made a move. I would argue that we are where we are at because we wait too long to pull the plug when it becomes clear that we do not have the answer. I want Archie to succeed but if we are still mediocre in years 3 and 4, he can hit the bricks. It is stupid for anyone to say it is time to pull the trigger on Archie because if you fired him now then you would get no one to come here. He should at least get 4 years to prove what he can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowhunter Posted January 19, 2019 Report Share Posted January 19, 2019 On paper we are the better team. On the court they are definitely the better team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyHoosier Posted January 19, 2019 Report Share Posted January 19, 2019 Just now, Brass Cannon said: Kelvin Sampson turned the program around in year 2. People need to stop acting like it's irrational and impossible to get a group of kids you didn't recruit to play well. Say what you want about Sampson, but he is a hell of a basketball coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOOSIER1321 Posted January 19, 2019 Report Share Posted January 19, 2019 1 minute ago, Brass Cannon said: Kelvin Sampson turned the program around in year 2. People need to stop acting like it's irrational and impossible to get a group of kids you didn't recruit to play well. We don’t want to turn it around that way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad B Posted January 19, 2019 Report Share Posted January 19, 2019 Romeo is not even close to as good as Eric Gordon. Not sure how he can play in NBA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArchieBall13 Posted January 19, 2019 Report Share Posted January 19, 2019 14 minutes ago, IUCrazy2 said: All due respect, if you make your hires based on where you are at in the present, you are never getting very far. I am trying to be patient but the patience is worn very then. It is not just the losing (which pushes me off to begin with) it is the inept way in which we are losing that really has me irritated. I didn't like typing it out either. Reality stings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CauseThatsMyDJ Posted January 19, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2019 1 minute ago, rd726 said: MAN, some of these posts 🙄 It's gonna be a long next couple of years having to deal with the folks that don't understand reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted January 19, 2019 Report Share Posted January 19, 2019 9 minutes ago, Seeking6 said: Not even close. Archie will get his guys in here but year 1.3 is not the time to start questioning things. That's why IU is in the position we're in. Be better. It's year 1.5, which is an important distinction because it isn't early in year two at this point. I'm not saying you abandon ship, but we are starting to have enough data to see trends. Archie doesn't seem to be the most adaptable coach; may not be a problem if he can consistently get his guys long term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted January 19, 2019 Report Share Posted January 19, 2019 Glad I cant watch. Good day for a middle school girls basketball tournament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOOSIER1321 Posted January 19, 2019 Report Share Posted January 19, 2019 Just now, CauseThatsMyDJ said: It's gonna be a long next couple of years having to deal with the folks that don't understand reality. It’s been a long 20 years dealing with people who accept mediocrity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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