Steubenhoosier Posted January 22, 2019 Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 4 minutes ago, dgambill said: So can we take away his scholarship or would we be down 1 next year? Does he have to volunteer to transfer in order for us to keep his scholly? Another question...so how long ago did we know this failed test? Did he have to get retested etc? If it was known before the season say maybe that is why we think we might take 4? If Green and Langford gone there is definitely room for another guard. Like Armani but he won’t be ready as a freshman. Aren't scholarships awarded on a year-by-year basis? I think the university can choose not to renew Green's . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted January 22, 2019 Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 1 minute ago, mjeze106 said: Some of you are suggesting to kick a player off of the team for some weed (early speculation at this point, of course)? Seems a little excessive to me. If we booted every player that drank underage, we probably wouldn't be able to put 5 out there. Is that different? The drinking versus weed argument is irrelevant based on the rules that are in -place for college athletes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steubenhoosier Posted January 22, 2019 Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, mjeze106 said: Some of you are suggesting to kick a player off of the team for some weed (early speculation at this point, of course)? Seems a little excessive to me. If we booted every player that drank underage, we probably wouldn't be able to put 5 out there. Is that different? You mean, ignoring the obvious that pot is still illegal in Indiana? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted January 22, 2019 Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, dbmhoosier said: You can Crean him absolutely. I wouldn't mind it honestly. I've never been a Green fan. Until it is confirmed that is what happen we should not jump to conclusions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted January 22, 2019 Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 4 minutes ago, mjeze106 said: Some of you are suggesting to kick a player off of the team for some weed (early speculation at this point, of course)? Seems a little excessive to me. If we booted every player that drank underage, we probably wouldn't be able to put 5 out there. Is that different? If that was what happen he most definitely needs to be booted because there is no place for that at IU and I don't care how good of a player is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjeze106 Posted January 22, 2019 Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 It just seems to me like we have some folks that are looking for an easy way to get rid of a player they don't necessarily prefer. It's possible I may be off-base Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted January 22, 2019 Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 More than any other reason, if you're Archie, your ultimate decision here has to be what's best for the team and the program. Not having all of the information, I don't know what that is. However, this cannot in any way be a situation where it's the minimum punishment and then we act like it never happened. That's not good for the long term health of the program. Honestly, the explanation and remorse would have to be very convincing for me to let him stay on the team if I were the coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted January 22, 2019 Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, mjeze106 said: It just seems to me like we have some folks that are looking for an easy way to get rid of a player they don't necessarily prefer. It's possible I may be off-base Well, there's a rational explanation for that. Players that put team first generally don't get busted breaking rules. And, players that are team first lead to team success, which makes me happy. So, yes, I like players that abide by the rules more than I do players that don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted January 22, 2019 Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 5 minutes ago, mjeze106 said: It just seems to me like we have some folks that are looking for an easy way to get rid of a player they don't necessarily prefer. It's possible I may be off-base Yes you are because I don't care which player does this, I feel they should be gone. Like I said it is just not the weed it is the terrible judgment it shows and that you can't be trusted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted January 22, 2019 Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 I’m going to stop speculating until we have concrete evidence. I want a clean program....not just for appearances but also for recruiting...good mom and dad aren’t letting their kid go to a school to place them around this stuff. This kid may not have a future in the NBA but by golly I’m not putting my 5* kid around ones that can influence him poorly and get him off track of his NBA future. Lots to consider...but If scholly is earned each year...I have to have good reason to keep a problem player on my roster...especially one that isn’t performing as a leader and upper class man on or off the court. edit: I’ve always thought scholarship was for 4 years...but maybe others can explain how that all works with revoking etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted January 22, 2019 Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 10 minutes ago, 5fouls said: More than any other reason, if you're Archie, your ultimate decision here has to be what's best for the team and the program. Not having all of the information, I don't know what that is. However, this cannot in any way be a situation where it's the minimum punishment and then we act like it never happened. That's not good for the long term health of the program. Honestly, the explanation and remorse would have to be very convincing for me to let him stay on the team if I were the coach. Something we need to remember though as we judge whatever outcome happens, we as fans on a message board have about, maybe if we're being generous, 1% of the available information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjeze106 Posted January 22, 2019 Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 1 minute ago, BGleas said: Something we need to remember though as we judge whatever outcome happens, we as fans on a message board have about, maybe if we're being generous, 1% of the available information. Withholding my judgment until I know all the facts? No thanks! Seems like too much work 😎 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted January 22, 2019 Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 1 minute ago, BGleas said: Something we need to remember though as we judge whatever outcome happens, we as fans on a message board have about, maybe if we're being generous, 1% of the available information. Absolutely. One of the major problems with society today is that people jump to conclusions without having all the facts. We see it in news reports every day. That said, if this is truly a failed test, then I stand by my position that, unless the explanation and remorse are convincing, Archie needs to show that rules are rules. and breaking them has consequences. A 3 game suspension really does not do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted January 22, 2019 Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 Regardless of the reason, the absence of a rotation player and the distraction it will cause is not a good development for a team that is already struggling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUwins0708 Posted January 22, 2019 Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 Green just tweeted out “wishes granted” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowhunter Posted January 22, 2019 Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 Not cool... I’m disappointed to read this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowhunter Posted January 22, 2019 Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 1 minute ago, IUwins0708 said: Green just tweeted out “wishes granted” Do you take that as fans have been hard on me so you got your wish? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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addictedtoIU Posted January 22, 2019 Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 I feel like I'm in a dilemma. I really want to watch the game, but at the same time I don't want to watch the game. I'll probably watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUwins0708 Posted January 22, 2019 Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 Probably frustrated with fans, welcome to big time basketball..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FW_Hoosier Posted January 22, 2019 Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 Too bad second semester has already started and he can’t pull a CuJo. Wonder if we’ll get Beverly or a grad transfer with that fourth scholly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indykev Posted January 22, 2019 Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 If all true and this is Devonte's reply to that, I dont ever want to see him in again play for IU. That being said I will hold judgement until IU puts out a release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billingsley99 Posted January 22, 2019 Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 12 minutes ago, addictedtoIU said: I feel like I'm in a dilemma. I really want to watch the game, but at the same time I don't want to watch the game. I'll probably watch. I am painting our laundry room this evening and I also a dilemma watch the paint dry or watch our offense. Gonna be a tough one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowhunter Posted January 22, 2019 Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 1 minute ago, IUwins0708 said: Probably frustrated with fans, welcome to big time basketball..... That’s what I figured. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indykev Posted January 22, 2019 Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 Could this be the teams issue the last few games. ? Dealing with Green? Well, part of anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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