Colonialcrester Posted February 1, 2019 Report Share Posted February 1, 2019 22 minutes ago, 5fouls said: Crester. In regards to your kitten analogy, you must be forgetting that Cats (particularly those from UK) are scared to come onto the court at Assembly Hall. "Not anymore since we suck so bad because we are too soft! The Cats had no chance under Crean! We should bring back Crean! Any M$%^W Fu#$@%s that disagree with me is a F#$^W$4 idiot! " That is how that thread would begin and end. 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATX_sig Posted February 1, 2019 Report Share Posted February 1, 2019 Are there any rules about how to distinguish between a complaint and a discussion that includes criticism? The team struggles to shoot, has no size and no depth in one of the best power conference in CBB this year. It's a physical conference. IMO, the team is just physically worn. IMO, that is facts that merit some discussion. A complaint is Archie can't coach. romeo was way oeverrated. So and so should leave because he doesn't understand how to play and won't hustle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUCrazy2 Posted February 1, 2019 Report Share Posted February 1, 2019 23 minutes ago, southsidehoosier said: https://twitter.com/MichaelReschke If you scroll through the feed you find some interesting back and forth between Glass and the BOT at their meeting Shoulders concludes with this: "We all understand that patience is going to have its limits at some point." #IUBOT Yeah, I think reading through that, Fred is definitely on notice as are the basketball and football coaches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted February 1, 2019 Report Share Posted February 1, 2019 And to think I got ridiculed for wanting to stay on topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonialcrester Posted February 1, 2019 Report Share Posted February 1, 2019 1 minute ago, ATX_sig said: Are there any rules about how to distinguish between a complaint and a discussion that includes criticism? The team struggles to shoot, has no size and no depth in one of the best power conference in CBB this year. It's a physical conference. IMO, the team is just physically worn. IMO, that is facts that merit some discussion. A complaint is Archie can't coach. romeo was way oeverrated. So and so should leave because he doesn't understand how to play and won't hustle. It is the old pornography definition...we know it when we see it. 🙂 But what you just wrote is pretty good. The last line is more of a vent, the one before it is legit criticism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indykev Posted February 1, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2019 Good take from Goodman, he is reading our board again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted February 1, 2019 Report Share Posted February 1, 2019 8 minutes ago, rico said: And to think I got ridiculed for wanting to stay on topic. Ahhh. Take it to the complaint thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted February 1, 2019 Report Share Posted February 1, 2019 Just now, 5fouls said: Ahhh. Take it to the complaint thread. Maybe I will just start one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUrocker Posted February 1, 2019 Report Share Posted February 1, 2019 Yep it’s definitely crazy that Archie took over a roster that went 7-11 in the Big Ten with the three best players of THAT underperforming team being gone. I admit, I thought a Romeo Langford was going to turn us right around, but sitting back and thinking about that situation along with how underwhelming Romeo has been in areas of his game that we thought he’d excel in (and yes he is still a special player) there’s no way Archie has everything he needs to be back on top yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOOSIER1321 Posted February 1, 2019 Report Share Posted February 1, 2019 16 minutes ago, IUrocker said: Yep it’s definitely crazy that Archie took over a roster that went 7-11 in the Big Ten with the three best players of THAT underperforming team being gone. I admit, I thought a Romeo Langford was going to turn us right around, but sitting back and thinking about that situation along with how underwhelming Romeo has been in areas of his game that we thought he’d excel in (and yes he is still a special player) there’s no way Archie has everything he needs to be back on top yet. Back on top? How about just beat Rutgers. Don't want to have overblown expectations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUrocker Posted February 1, 2019 Report Share Posted February 1, 2019 1 minute ago, HOOSIER1321 said: Back on top? How about just beat Rutgers. Don't want to have overblown expectations. Agreed. I wasn’t saying he should be back on top as early as now. You’re right, we have smaller baby steps that we can’t even get over right now as it is. I just used back on top as a general future expectation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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IUCrazy2 Posted February 1, 2019 Report Share Posted February 1, 2019 42 minutes ago, IUrocker said: Yep it’s definitely crazy that Archie took over a roster that went 7-11 in the Big Ten with the three best players of THAT underperforming team being gone. I admit, I thought a Romeo Langford was going to turn us right around, but sitting back and thinking about that situation along with how underwhelming Romeo has been in areas of his game that we thought he’d excel in (and yes he is still a special player) there’s no way Archie has everything he needs to be back on top yet. Does anyone believe that what we gained in the Freshmen class was greater than what was lost? I tend to believe it was. Langford along brings as much or more than Johnson and Newkirk alone. Now, if we believe that, then my basic expectation of the tournament should not have been crazy. That is what I hate about articles like that, we heard the need to be patient with Crean for almost a decade. It is always "they need more time"...and Archie may. But I expect to see some wholesale changes after this year. If players are a problem, they need to go. If coaches are not getting something done, bye bye. We absolutely cannot have another year like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUCrazy2 Posted February 1, 2019 Report Share Posted February 1, 2019 5 minutes ago, CauseThatsMyDJ said: Yes, then he gave the "but" I listed above. Shoulders basically just told Glass that he owns the results. That was Corporate speak for, "You better be right about all of this because if you are not, the fallout is landing on you." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUrocker Posted February 1, 2019 Report Share Posted February 1, 2019 Just now, IUCrazy2 said: Does anyone believe that what we gained in the Freshmen class was greater than what was lost? I tend to believe it was. Langford along brings as much or more than Johnson and Newkirk alone. Now, if we believe that, then my basic expectation of the tournament should not have been crazy. That is what I hate about articles like that, we heard the need to be patient with Crean for almost a decade. It is always "they need more time"...and Archie may. But I expect to see some wholesale changes after this year. If players are a problem, they need to go. If coaches are not getting something done, bye bye. We absolutely cannot have another year like this. Yep for sure, that’s exactly what I hope happens and for the most part expect to happen: problematic players who need to go. Archie needs to nip this quick and rid of anyone or anything that may be causing some type of issue amongst players that are affecting their effort and approach to the game. I can definitely see our roster looking waaay different next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyHoosier Posted February 1, 2019 Report Share Posted February 1, 2019 9 minutes ago, CauseThatsMyDJ said: Of course Glass says this. They're his hires. His ego will dictate his words. I'm not disagreeing just honestly dont care what glass has to say about his expectations for our coaches future because he said the same of Crean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEFFVETTE Posted February 1, 2019 Report Share Posted February 1, 2019 Reading some of the BOT comments, I have a question. Is It true that it was the BOT"s decision to keep Crean longer to lower the buyout, thus resulting in one or two more years of crappy recruiting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbmhoosier Posted February 1, 2019 Report Share Posted February 1, 2019 Sounds like Fred has been put on notice by the BOT. We're making progress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13th&Jackson Posted February 1, 2019 Report Share Posted February 1, 2019 18 minutes ago, dbmhoosier said: Sounds like Fred has been put on notice by the BOT. We're making progress. Was this Fred's response to the Trustee? I didn't see it on Twitter: “You’re an errand boy, sent by grocery clerks, to collect a bill.” — Colonel Kurtz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milehiiu Posted February 1, 2019 Report Share Posted February 1, 2019 Seeing as how this is a thread for venting. I hope you don't find this too objectionable. But..... here is my vent : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUrocker Posted February 1, 2019 Report Share Posted February 1, 2019 https://www.insidethehall.com/2019/02/01/video-archie-miller-juwan-morgan-preview-roadtrip-to-michigan-state/ At the 2:25 mark Archie gets asked about Fred Glass saying the program is in a “serious rebuild” and what he has to say about the state of the team and what he needs to do to be successful. Archie’s answer is long and hits the nail on the head, talking about “the big picture” and what he has to do and what a lot of people may be asking about. Program is in good hands, he just needs time and more recruiting classes to come in to create the culture he is trying to build. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted February 1, 2019 Report Share Posted February 1, 2019 Mile posted in the MSU thread that we should expect Devonte to be available Saturday. I feel the need to bring that over here. Because, if he plays, that irritates me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indykev Posted February 1, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2019 Glass also called IUMB a total rebuild. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indykev Posted February 1, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2019 1 minute ago, 5fouls said: Mile posted in the MSU thread that we should expect Devonte to be available Saturday. I feel the need to bring that over here. Because, if he plays, that irritates me. Why? If he served his time. We still dont know what he did or didnt do. If it were weed he wouldnt play saturday. If its the other thing I heard ( a rumor I wont post ) he served his time, let him play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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