ArchieBall13 Posted February 16, 2019 Report Share Posted February 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, IUDan93 said: Question for the great a knowledgeable members of this site: If CAM has the know-how, commitment and energy to coach, in what way(s) could Fred Glass impair his ability to succeed? I am not thinking about nonsensical things like meeting with players and saying to them to ignore their coach, but I really want to know how Glass could shoulder the blame for this program under the assumption that Archie has the goods. Yea, I'm a little confused as to how Glass can be at fault specifically for the hire of Archie Miller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsidehoosier Posted February 16, 2019 Report Share Posted February 16, 2019 7 minutes ago, Hard Hat said: If someone on the inside would write a book about this season I would definitely read it. Would love to hear about everything going on the inside. Season on the drink🥴 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiveoutofsix Posted February 16, 2019 Report Share Posted February 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, IUDan93 said: Question for the great a knowledgeable members of this site: If CAM has the know-how, commitment and energy to coach, in what way(s) could Fred Glass impair his ability to succeed? I am not thinking about nonsensical things like meeting with players and saying to them to ignore their coach, but I really want to know how Glass could shoulder the blame for this program under the assumption that Archie has the goods. -Glass has the IU bill of rights and it is not so easy to get rid of players. -Glass has fired coaches for getting on players. -it is rumored Glass told Archie he must try to keep all players and Crean committed recruits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indykev Posted February 16, 2019 Report Share Posted February 16, 2019 4 minutes ago, IUDan93 said: Question for the great a knowledgeable members of this site: If CAM has the know-how, commitment and energy to coach, in what way(s) could Fred Glass impair his ability to succeed? I am not thinking about nonsensical things like meeting with players and saying to them to ignore their coach, but I really want to know how Glass could shoulder the blame for this program under the assumption that Archie has the goods. This is just a bad mix of players. Blocking Archie from turning this roster over is the only thing I could see Glass getting in the way with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bushmage Posted February 16, 2019 Report Share Posted February 16, 2019 8 minutes ago, Indykev said: Race 2 pts, 5 rebounds, 2 blocks in 7 mins. so glad we finally found some time for him down 26. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2345 Posted February 16, 2019 Report Share Posted February 16, 2019 10 minutes ago, milehiiu said: Well. One thing is for certain. Dakich is the cretin. Wanting a mid major to make the NCAAT, rather than his alma mater. I don't care how badly your school is performing, especially one you played for..... one should never wish they were out of the tournament. IU still has some very good wins on their resume, and a ton of games left before all is said and done. IU doesn’t deserve to be in the tournament the way they have been playing this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fundamentals Posted February 16, 2019 Report Share Posted February 16, 2019 Still supportive of Archie getting time, but just for something different. Lets say Archie leaves, what about Michael Lewis as next head coach? Instead of chasing the next name, what about one of our own, who’s tough as nails. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jefftheref Posted February 16, 2019 Report Share Posted February 16, 2019 Just now, Indykev said: This is just a bad mix of players. Blocking Archie from turning this roster over is the only thing I could see Glass getting in the way with. If I were Archie I would tell Glass that either certain players go or I go. Archie must have total control over his roster and who stays and who plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indykev Posted February 16, 2019 Report Share Posted February 16, 2019 1 minute ago, Bushmage said: so glad we finally found some time for him down 26. The guy hadn't played a game in 2 years, did you want him to start? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indykev Posted February 16, 2019 Report Share Posted February 16, 2019 1 minute ago, Fundamentals said: Still supportive of Archie getting time, but just for something different. Lets say Archie leaves, what about Michael Lewis as next head coach? Instead of chasing the next name, what about one of our own, who’s tough as nails. No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted February 16, 2019 Report Share Posted February 16, 2019 8 minutes ago, Cbp4IU said: Is it a recruiting dead period right now? If not I hope Archie spends the next 2 days recruiting instead of coaching practice. My guess is Archie is flying one direction tonight and his team another. Archie knows the only way out of this situation is players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier987 Posted February 16, 2019 Report Share Posted February 16, 2019 1 minute ago, Indykev said: This is just a bad mix of players. Blocking Archie from turning this roster over is the only thing I could see Glass getting in the way with. Terrible mix of players. These players don’t play for each other and they are polar opposites just like the coaches who recruited them. Archie has to be able to TURNOVER the roster this summer. Keep the ‘18 recruiting class, plus the incoming freshmen and bring in some older players who are transfers - if we do that, I think we got a more than capable team next year. Also, I do think Archie is the answer in the long run, just need to be patient and let him get his players in . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier987 Posted February 16, 2019 Report Share Posted February 16, 2019 4 minutes ago, Fundamentals said: Still supportive of Archie getting time, but just for something different. Lets say Archie leaves, what about Michael Lewis as next head coach? Instead of chasing the next name, what about one of our own, who’s tough as nails. Archie is going nowhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUDan93 Posted February 16, 2019 Report Share Posted February 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, Fiveoutofsix said: -Glass has the IU bill of rights and it is not so easy to get rid of players. -Glass has fired coaches for getting on players. -it is rumored Glass told Archie he must try to keep all players and Crean committed recruits. He fired Wilson for more than "getting on players", right? If Archie thinks he needs to turn over players and Glass doesn't want him to, can Glass really stop him? Would he fire Archie for demanding players put effort in? Or fire him for "getting rid of players" who showed no commitment to the style of play of their coach, a coach that Glass chose? I can't fathom that Fred would hire a guy, then stop him from implementing the very changes he was hired to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier987 Posted February 16, 2019 Report Share Posted February 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, Seeking6 said: My guess is Archie is flying one direction tonight and his team another. Archie knows the only way out of this situation is players. No other choice. This is a big roster problem. He has to recruit his players and have a big turnover this summer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUDan93 Posted February 16, 2019 Report Share Posted February 16, 2019 6 minutes ago, Indykev said: This is just a bad mix of players. Blocking Archie from turning this roster over is the only thing I could see Glass getting in the way with. Seems like it, but there is no way that Fred is this stupid. He hired CAM to win because I can't imagine he doesn't realize that his life is better when IU wins in basketball. His job could be and should be tied to the success of the basketball team. Why would he hire a guy then stop that guy from doing his job? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted February 16, 2019 Report Share Posted February 16, 2019 8 minutes ago, Indykev said: The guy hadn't played a game in 2 years, did you want him to start? From my seat in the house, Archie has continued to play Justin and Devonte major minutes at the expense of other players that may actually care. At some point, when something is not working (and I think we all can agree it's not), maybe try something/someone different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cohete15 Posted February 16, 2019 Report Share Posted February 16, 2019 Not hitting shots is probably the biggest problem. BUT, when you're not hitting shots AND you're not running an offense thru your best player..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cohete15 Posted February 16, 2019 Report Share Posted February 16, 2019 Just now, 5fouls said: From my seat in the house, Archie has continues to play Justin and Devonte major minutes at the expense of other players that may actually care. At some point, when something is not working (and I think we all can agree it's not), maybe try something/someone different. Yea I kept thinking after each timeout we would see a line change...nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indykev Posted February 16, 2019 Report Share Posted February 16, 2019 1 minute ago, IUDan93 said: Seems like it, but there is no way that Fred is this stupid. He hired CAM to win because I can't imagine he doesn't realize that his life is better when IU wins in basketball. His job could be and should be tied to the success of the basketball team. Why would he hire a guy then stop that guy from doing his job? I agree Glass wont get in the way, his job is on the line here. OP asked what Glass could do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUskim Posted February 16, 2019 Report Share Posted February 16, 2019 Just my 2 cents but didn’t look like Justin took the not starting very well. He didn’t play well and it looked like he was just out of it. I do like the starting lineup with Davis in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted February 16, 2019 Report Share Posted February 16, 2019 10 minutes ago, Indykev said: This is just a bad mix of players. Blocking Archie from turning this roster over is the only thing I could see Glass getting in the way with. Remember when we were recruiting DJ Carton and it was down to us and Michigan and then OSU swooped in at the last second...Carton said he felt really at home with the players on the team and got along well with them.....maybe he sensed something about our guys that turned him off. Just a theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted February 16, 2019 Report Share Posted February 16, 2019 Archie plays things pretty close which I like. Watching his post game presser. No clue what type of lineup we see Tuesday. He's done with some of the guys. He mentioned grabbing some attention. Will be interesting to see who gets the call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indykev Posted February 16, 2019 Report Share Posted February 16, 2019 1 minute ago, 5fouls said: From my seat in the house, Archie has continued to play Justin and Devonte major minutes at the expense of other players that may actually care. At some point, when something is not working (and I think we all can agree it's not), maybe try something/someone different. Agree....but christ let the kid get his feet under him in games or he'll start looking like the others if you rush him. He hasnt played a game in 2 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted February 16, 2019 Report Share Posted February 16, 2019 1 minute ago, dgambill said: Remember when we were recruiting DJ Carton and it was down to us and Michigan and then OSU swooped in at the last second...Carton said he felt really at home with the players on the team and got along well with them.....maybe he sensed something about our guys that turned him off. Just a theory. Possibly. But Beilein hired family friend from Illinois St to be an assistant coach at Michigan to seal the deal and the kid still chose Ohio St. Nothing IU could do on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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