DocHoosier Posted January 28, 2020 Report Share Posted January 28, 2020 31 minutes ago, dgambill said: Agreed. He is a willing defender...willing to mix it up with bigger guys and athletic enough to cover smaller guys on switches. Would he have been able to help close out on Maryland on those 3's better...perhaps. I think the way Archie plays he would fit. Besides....the way we run 4 min stretches there will be plenty of time for several guys to play if he is willing to share his time. I think it's a false narrative that only Jerome will get better but Keion couldn't. Keion would have a year to practice and watch and learn as well. I just don't think he is willing to sit another year...the whole point was to get to the NBA as fast as possible no matter what...so I see him staying and going pro after next year no matter what the circumstances. I just don't write kids off...I'm sure Archie might not prioritize recruiting him again but wouldn't it be nice to have a 6-8 border line 5* recruit that can guard perhaps 1-5 depending on matchups? Not to mention maybe the good will to help with recruiting his brother? This is all assuming he wouldn’t be granted immediate eligibility which the NCAA seems to be willing to offer more loosely. For Brooks I feel it’s kinda like being left at the alter by a pretty girl... you’d take her back but it might cause more bad than good. 🤷🏽♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted January 28, 2020 Report Share Posted January 28, 2020 58 minutes ago, DocHoosier said: This is all assuming he wouldn’t be granted immediate eligibility which the NCAA seems to be willing to offer more loosely. For Brooks I feel it’s kinda like being left at the alter by a pretty girl... you’d take her back but it might cause more bad than good. 🤷🏽♂️ I don't see how playing time would grant you immediate transfer...but maybe they can come up with a reason. I'd think he would have to sit out...and for a kid that wanted and was sold on the get to the NBA faster route...that isn't going to sit well. I'd think that would be too bitter a pill to swallow so I can see him letting this play out longer at UK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2345 Posted January 28, 2020 Report Share Posted January 28, 2020 28 minutes ago, dgambill said: I don't see how playing time would grant you immediate transfer...but maybe they can come up with a reason. I'd think he would have to sit out...and for a kid that wanted and was sold on the get to the NBA faster route...that isn't going to sit well. I'd think that would be too bitter a pill to swallow so I can see him letting this play out longer at UK. Guys find excuses to transfer all the time and the NCAA is getting more and more lenient. Most of the time the player has to transfer to a school within 100 miles of there home I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted January 28, 2020 Report Share Posted January 28, 2020 10 minutes ago, DC2345 said: Guys find excuses to transfer all the time and the NCAA is getting more and more lenient. Most of the time the player has to transfer to a school within 100 miles of there home I believe. If that is the case and he wants immediate playing time next year then yes..the path to playing next year is more difficult to make. The only way I could see significant time for him would be if Justin was leaving and I don't think that is happening. 2021 though looks wide open for anyone wanting serious playing time at the 4/5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proud2BAHoosier Posted January 28, 2020 Report Share Posted January 28, 2020 6 hours ago, rico said: Yeah, I think he is better off staying at pUKe. Fixed it for ya Rico..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FKIM01 Posted January 28, 2020 Report Share Posted January 28, 2020 4 hours ago, IndySportsPartizan said: He and Hunter could play on the court together. So who do you bench? IU is chasing a significant amount of 21 talent and we haven't even seen what Geronimo and Galloway will look like yet. He's a talented kid, but by the time he could play, I suspect IU will have plenty of wing talent for a transfer to compete with. Bottom line, even if he could play next season, I don't see IU needing him at the wing and while talented, I don't think he's talented enough to wait a year for him to be able to play. Too many wings already here and too many lines in the water. That's my take. Doesn't matter anyway...with wanting to be one and done, I don't see him being willing to start over and spend at least three years in college. It would be a whole different story if he'd started at IU and didn't need to completely learn a new system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OGIUAndy Posted January 28, 2020 Report Share Posted January 28, 2020 He didn't make a good decision going to UK, that is a fact. But leaving UK and sitting out a year would be an even bigger mistake. He'll get more PT going forward and next year. He was never a one and done no matter what pops was thinking. He should stay at least 3 years, otherwise it's G-league/overseas for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jv1972iu Posted January 28, 2020 Report Share Posted January 28, 2020 8 minutes ago, OGIUAndy said: He didn't make a good decision going to UK, that is a fact. But leaving UK and sitting out a year would be an even bigger mistake. He'll get more PT going forward and next year. He was never a one and done no matter what pops was thinking. He should stay at least 3 years, otherwise it's G-league overseas for him. I agree with this. He's like EJ Montgomery or Nick Richards...guys who need time to develop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierinbham Posted January 28, 2020 Report Share Posted January 28, 2020 2 hours ago, OGIUAndy said: He didn't make a good decision going to UK, that is a fact. But leaving UK and sitting out a year would be an even bigger mistake. He'll get more PT going forward and next year. He was never a one and done no matter what pops was thinking. He should stay at least 3 years, otherwise it's G-league overseas for him. Agreed his dad made a bad decision for him. But with the class UK has coming in next year, and little to no 1st round talent this year, I doubt his playing time increases much next year. There will be a complete logjam at the 2-4 positions next year for pUKe, and I doubt their shiney new 5 star OAD's sit the bench. Tough position to be in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted January 28, 2020 Report Share Posted January 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, Hoosierinbham said: Agreed his dad made a bad decision for him. But with the class UK has coming in next year, and little to no 1st round talent this year, I doubt his playing time increases much next year. There will be a complete logjam at the 2-4 positions next year for pUKe, and I doubt their shiney new 5 star OAD's sit the bench. Tough position to be in. I could see Maxey, Hagan and Richards all leaving UK after this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierinbham Posted January 28, 2020 Report Share Posted January 28, 2020 3 minutes ago, IU Scott said: I could see Maxey, Hagan and Richards all leaving UK after this year. Agreed. In fact had a NBA scout tell me exactly those names. But only Maxey would affect playing time at the 2-4 positions. They'll need to grab a grad transfer big if Richardson does leave, and depending on his skill set, could take away more time at the wing if he can shoot and guard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proud2BAHoosier Posted January 28, 2020 Report Share Posted January 28, 2020 4 hours ago, dgambill said: I don't see how playing time would grant you immediate transfer...but maybe they can come up with a reason. I'd think he would have to sit out...and for a kid that wanted and was sold on the get to the NBA faster route...that isn't going to sit well. I'd think that would be too bitter a pill to swallow so I can see him letting this play out longer at UK. Maybe he was bullied??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted January 28, 2020 Report Share Posted January 28, 2020 Did I miss something? KBJ is in the transfer portal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13th&Jackson Posted January 28, 2020 Report Share Posted January 28, 2020 7 minutes ago, rico said: Did I miss something? KBJ is in the transfer portal? Double secret transfer portal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2345 Posted January 29, 2020 Report Share Posted January 29, 2020 5 hours ago, rico said: Did I miss something? KBJ is in the transfer portal? No just pointless speculation thanks to an AAU coach complaining on twitter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2345 Posted January 29, 2020 Report Share Posted January 29, 2020 Maybe we can stop with the pointless Ketchup talk. So much pUKe talk is making me want to 🤮 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotIThatLives Posted February 9, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2020 Not likely to land any top freshman that are undecided this late in the game. Must find start now material. Sick that Louisville and Kansas already have 1-2 on this list. https://www.jucorecruiting.com/2020-junior-college-basketball-player-rankings-top-100 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotIThatLives Posted February 9, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2020 Gotta get start now material in here. CAM has to know this. Has to be a talent upgrade. Link to watch. https://247sports.com/Season/2020-Basketball/TransferPortal/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDB Posted February 12, 2020 Report Share Posted February 12, 2020 https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/28673063/is-ivy-league-transfer-policy-helping-players-hurting-them Players listed in article Mike Smith - Columbia - 5-11 PG 21 ppg 4.2 rpg 4.7 apg 37% 3P Ryan Betley - Penn - 6-5 Guard 12.4 ppg 6.2 rpg 1.2 apg 36% 3P Jordan Bruner - Yale - 6-9 forward 11.8 ppg 9.4 rpg 3.7 apg 36% 3P Seth Towns - Harvard - 6-7 forward 14.2 ppg 5.0 rpg 1.6 apg 42% 3P Brendan Barry - Dartmouth 6-2 guard 13.2 ppg 3.2 rpg 3.2 apg 44% 3P Patrick Tape - Columbia 6-10 forward 11.3 ppg 5.9 rpg 1.3 bpg Jake Killingsworth - Columbia 6-5 guard 7.9 ppg 5.3 rpg 1.7 apg 36% 3P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted February 12, 2020 Report Share Posted February 12, 2020 11 minutes ago, BDB said: https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/28673063/is-ivy-league-transfer-policy-helping-players-hurting-them Players listed in article Mike Smith - Columbia - 5-11 PG 21 ppg 4.2 rpg 4.7 apg 37% 3P Ryan Betley - Penn - 6-5 Guard 12.4 ppg 6.2 rpg 1.2 apg 36% 3P Jordan Bruner - Yale - 6-9 forward 11.8 ppg 9.4 rpg 3.7 apg 36% 3P Seth Towns - Harvard - 6-7 forward 14.2 ppg 5.0 rpg 1.6 apg 42% 3P Brendan Barry - Dartmouth 6-2 guard 13.2 ppg 3.2 rpg 3.2 apg 44% 3P Patrick Tape - Columbia 6-10 forward 11.3 ppg 5.9 rpg 1.3 bpg Jake Killingsworth - Columbia 6-5 guard 7.9 ppg 5.3 rpg 1.7 apg 36% 3P Earlier in this thread I brought up Smith and Towns as a good players to look at. I think the problem with towns is that he has been injured his last two years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotIThatLives Posted February 12, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2020 Sucks for them but we need good smart players in the worst way. Sounds like the Ivy League director is stuck in her ways like a trollish IU administrator or trustee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13th&Jackson Posted February 12, 2020 Report Share Posted February 12, 2020 2 hours ago, NotIThatLives said: Sucks for them but we need good smart players in the worst way. Sounds like the Ivy League director is stuck in her ways like a trollish IU administrator or trustee. I have a feeling this all comes down to money. Turning over athletes creates more opportunities to enroll the future Bifs and Buffies whose parents donate generously. Unlikely to get a new donation from the family of a 5th year player. Ivy League schools offer over 30 sports for men and women, which is often more than what’s available at “powerhouse” schools. College Factual reported that the University of Alabama had 640 student-athletes in 22 sports. Last spring, Princeton had 920 in 37. The Harvard Crimson found that Harvard spends $1 million per year on recruitment expenses alone. Athletes still have to submit the same Common Application forms as everyone else, but coaches can give them advice, as occurs in Cambridge. Final contenders make it onto lists that coaches submit to the admissions office. Daniel Golden wrote in The Price of Admission that mediocre athletes often get on their lists, pleasing wealthy parents who then donate money for new facilities. https://www.dailyprincetonian.com/article/2019/10/ivy-league-athletics-are-the-new-money-ball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierDom Posted February 12, 2020 Report Share Posted February 12, 2020 1 hour ago, 13th&Jackson said: I have a feeling this all comes down to money. Turning over athletes creates more opportunities to enroll the future Bifs and Buffies whose parents donate generously. Unlikely to get a new donation from the family of a 5th year player. Ivy League schools offer over 30 sports for men and women, which is often more than what’s available at “powerhouse” schools. College Factual reported that the University of Alabama had 640 student-athletes in 22 sports. Last spring, Princeton had 920 in 37. The Harvard Crimson found that Harvard spends $1 million per year on recruitment expenses alone. Athletes still have to submit the same Common Application forms as everyone else, but coaches can give them advice, as occurs in Cambridge. Final contenders make it onto lists that coaches submit to the admissions office. Daniel Golden wrote in The Price of Admission that mediocre athletes often get on their lists, pleasing wealthy parents who then donate money for new facilities. https://www.dailyprincetonian.com/article/2019/10/ivy-league-athletics-are-the-new-money-ball Yup. College sports, outside of basketball and football (and maybe a few others, I'm not going to dissect them all), are affirmative action for rich people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DunkinDipo Posted February 12, 2020 Report Share Posted February 12, 2020 Give me Barry and his 44% 3 point shooting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhinithreeMagic Posted March 13, 2020 Report Share Posted March 13, 2020 For those that, like me, thought Towns would be a great fit as a transfer here. Considering 6 schools (3 B10). Wish we could have made the list. Towns considering 6 schools Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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