Zlinedavid Posted March 11, 2019 Report Share Posted March 11, 2019 I don't think we're solidly in the field with anything short of making the BTT finals. Yes, all the statistics and metrics say we've had a better year than a lot of other bubble teams. But these are still human eyes that are making the evaluations. And we need a decisive run to help show that the 1-12 streak is behind us. Only way I'm not going to be nervous on Selection Sunday is if we're holding the BTT trophy. In which case, I'll be drunk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted March 11, 2019 Report Share Posted March 11, 2019 3 minutes ago, Zlinedavid said: I don't think we're solidly in the field with anything short of making the BTT finals. Yes, all the statistics and metrics say we've had a better year than a lot of other bubble teams. But these are still human eyes that are making the evaluations. And we need a decisive run to help show that the 1-12 streak is behind us. Only way I'm not going to be nervous on Selection Sunday is if we're holding the BTT trophy. In which case, I'll be drunk. So you don't think 5 or 6 in a row would qualify as a solid run? What about all the other bubble teams in bad stretches now? Do eyes not apply in those situations, only ours? We win Thursday and we are in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zlinedavid Posted March 11, 2019 Report Share Posted March 11, 2019 7 minutes ago, KoB2011 said: So you don't think 5 or 6 in a row would qualify as a solid run? What about all the other bubble teams in bad stretches now? Do eyes not apply in those situations, only ours? We win Thursday and we are in. Regular season is over. Pessimistic viewpoint, our streak is now 0. Bare minimum, 2 in the BTT, and we're still relying on some luck then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FKIM01 Posted March 11, 2019 Report Share Posted March 11, 2019 23 minutes ago, Zlinedavid said: Regular season is over. Pessimistic viewpoint, our streak is now 0. Bare minimum, 2 in the BTT, and we're still relying on some luck then. Hard to tell...we're all guessing how the new rules are applied, but considering IU's history, the quality of their high-profile wins and how they are playing right now, they have to be a really tempting pick for the committee, as opposed to, for example, a fading Iowa or mediocre Ohio State. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zlinedavid Posted March 11, 2019 Report Share Posted March 11, 2019 1 minute ago, FKIM01 said: Hard to tell...we're all guessing how the new rules are applied, but considering IU's history, the quality of their high-profile wins and how they are playing right now, they have to be a really tempting pick for the committee, as opposed to, for example, a fading Iowa or mediocre Ohio State. Against those teams, yes, I think we have an advantage. It's the Belmonts of the world that worry me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePaulieWalnuts Posted March 11, 2019 Report Share Posted March 11, 2019 Beat OSU and we’re dancing imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FKIM01 Posted March 11, 2019 Report Share Posted March 11, 2019 8 minutes ago, Zlinedavid said: Against those teams, yes, I think we have an advantage. It's the Belmonts of the world that worry me. I think the NET will expose the likes of Belmont... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FW_Hoosier Posted March 11, 2019 Report Share Posted March 11, 2019 45 minutes ago, KoB2011 said: So you don't think 5 or 6 in a row would qualify as a solid run? What about all the other bubble teams in bad stretches now? Do eyes not apply in those situations, only ours? We win Thursday and we are in. With the way the bubble has played out, I think we need to win two in the BTT to be a stone cold lock now. I still think just winning against OSU will be enough, but I’ll be a little nervous on Selection Sunday if we’re sitting at 18-15. 19-15 with a third win over MSU, and there’s absolutely no way we’re not in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FKIM01 Posted March 11, 2019 Report Share Posted March 11, 2019 8 minutes ago, FW_Hoosier said: With the way the bubble has played out, I think we need to win two in the BTT to be a stone cold lock now. I still think just winning against OSU will be enough, but I’ll be a little nervous on Selection Sunday if we’re sitting at 18-15. 19-15 with a third win over MSU, and there’s absolutely no way we’re not in. That's the way I see it. I've heard some pundits say IU is in already, but that seems like a stretch. I'm with Archie...just keep winning... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted March 11, 2019 Report Share Posted March 11, 2019 27 minutes ago, FKIM01 said: Hard to tell...we're all guessing how the new rules are applied, but considering IU's history, the quality of their high-profile wins and how they are playing right now, they have to be a really tempting pick for the committee, as opposed to, for example, a fading Iowa or mediocre Ohio State. Or Florida. Or Bama. Or Arizona State. Or Texas. There is no shortage of teams that have similar or worse resumes to us that are hitting their rough patch now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted March 11, 2019 Report Share Posted March 11, 2019 15 minutes ago, FW_Hoosier said: With the way the bubble has played out, I think we need to win two in the BTT to be a stone cold lock now. I still think just winning against OSU will be enough, but I’ll be a little nervous on Selection Sunday if we’re sitting at 18-15. 19-15 with a third win over MSU, and there’s absolutely no way we’re not in. I think this is a really reasonable take. I think we should, and probably will, get in at 18-15 but 19-15 and I won't have any concerns on Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted March 11, 2019 Report Share Posted March 11, 2019 Some of the way we are talking about this reminds me of how we talked about the 2015 team. We all were convinced that we would either miss it or be one of the last in, then we ended up a 10 seed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CauseThatsMyDJ Posted March 11, 2019 Report Share Posted March 11, 2019 Monday’s Important Games Wofford/Greensboro (need Wofford to win) Gonzaga/Pepperdine (need Gonzaga to win) San Diego/St Mary’s (want St Mary’s to lose) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted March 11, 2019 Report Share Posted March 11, 2019 11 hours ago, HoosierDom said: I saw a respectable bracket that put us all the way up at the 9 seed and had us matched up with Kentucky in round 2. It was making predictions as to how the rest of the week would play out, but I wouldn't be a bit surprised by that. If it was a 'respectable' bracket, we would be solidly in the field and UK would be in the NIT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDB Posted March 11, 2019 Report Share Posted March 11, 2019 Lunardi's updated bubble - IU the first team out, OSU the last team in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted March 11, 2019 Report Share Posted March 11, 2019 5 minutes ago, KDB said: Lunardi's updated bubble - IU the first team out, OSU the last team in. People can have us out and I understand why....what they can't do though is have teams like Florida, Texas, Clemson, NC State in over us. Florida has 2 quad 1 wins. Clemson is like 1-9 in Quad 1 games. Having us out is fine....but you can't have us out over some of these other schools. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted March 11, 2019 Report Share Posted March 11, 2019 13 minutes ago, Seeking6 said: People can have us out and I understand why....what they can't do though is have teams like Florida, Texas, Clemson, NC State in over us. Florida has 2 quad 1 wins. Clemson is like 1-9 in Quad 1 games. Having us out is fine....but you can't have us out over some of these other schools. That's the thing, though, is that once you start putting us over all those schools there is no way we are out. I firmly believe our losing streak is still fresh in a lot of bracketologist minds. It seems to me what our resume was a month ago shouldn't matter and likely won't when they actually do the tournament. The committee should be starting with an empty bracket when they do this, not one that had us way out of the field trying to work our way back in, which will likely put us over the teams you mentioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parakeet Jones Posted March 11, 2019 Report Share Posted March 11, 2019 Up to 51 in NET. Ahead of OSU and Minnesota. I originally thought we needed two in Chicago, but I think one gets us in unless Wofford, Gonzaga, VCU, and Washington all lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted March 11, 2019 Report Share Posted March 11, 2019 57 minutes ago, Seeking6 said: People can have us out and I understand why....what they can't do though is have teams like Florida, Texas, Clemson, NC State in over us. Florida has 2 quad 1 wins. Clemson is like 1-9 in Quad 1 games. Having us out is fine....but you can't have us out over some of these other schools. It makes no sense whatsoever. There's a reason Lunardi is one of the worst rated at brakets. Having Texas in right now is basically saying you think they're going to win the Big 12 Tournament, because any loss in that tournament gives them 16 for the season. Nobody is getting in with 16 losses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierhoopster Posted March 11, 2019 Report Share Posted March 11, 2019 9 minutes ago, Parakeet Jones said: Up to 51 in NET. Ahead of OSU and Minnesota. I originally thought we needed two in Chicago, but I think one gets us in unless Wofford, Gonzaga, VCU, and Washington all lose. This is where I am, and where I was after the W over MSU. Beat Rutgers (necessary), then get at least 1 game in the BTT (probably but not necessarily necessary) and we should be in. We have too many good W's followed by a strong close to the season to keep us out, imo -- but the game against OSU may be the deciding factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cohete15 Posted March 11, 2019 Report Share Posted March 11, 2019 52 minutes ago, Seeking6 said: People can have us out and I understand why....what they can't do though is have teams like Florida, Texas, Clemson, NC State in over us. Florida has 2 quad 1 wins. Clemson is like 1-9 in Quad 1 games. Having us out is fine....but you can't have us out over some of these other schools. Bingo. The controversy surrounding placing IU in the tournament, and being in favor of the teams you mentioned above is mind boggling. Some of these talking heads get extremely caught up in our losing streak. It's all they talk about when giving a case as to why IU should be out. If we would have spaced out our losses a little better, we would be firmly in. It's stupid, but in their minds, we would have been better off exchanging some Quad 1 wins for a couple more Quad 2 wins, so we didn't have a "losing streak". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierhoopster Posted March 11, 2019 Report Share Posted March 11, 2019 Just now, BGleas said: It makes no sense whatsoever. There's a reason Lunardi is one of the worst rated at brakets. Having Texas in right now is basically saying you think they're going to win the Big 12 Tournament, because any loss in that tournament gives them 16 for the season. Nobody is getting in with 16 losses. Lunardi really is an idiot. He's like the poster child for bad brackets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierhoopster Posted March 11, 2019 Report Share Posted March 11, 2019 Just now, cohete15 said: Bingo. The controversy surrounding placing IU in the tournament, and being in favor of the teams you mentioned above is mind boggling. Some of these talking heads get extremely caught up in our losing streak. It's all they talk about when giving a case as to why IU should be out. If we would have spaced out our losses a little better, we would be firmly in. It's stupid, but in their minds, we would have been better off exchanging some Quad 1 wins for a couple more Quad 2 wins, so we didn't have a "losing streak". Especially when you consider that we went through a long period of a reduced roster due to injuries, concussion protocol and other issues. Any assessment of IU has to consider health. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steubenhoosier Posted March 11, 2019 Report Share Posted March 11, 2019 8 minutes ago, Hoosierhoopster said: Lunardi really is an idiot. He's like the poster child for bad brackets. Get what you are saying, and pretty much agree.....however, that idiot is probably taking ESPN for a fair amount of coin. So for being so bad at what he does, and still being compensated for so many years by his employer....who's really the idiots? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsidehoosier Posted March 11, 2019 Report Share Posted March 11, 2019 Not understanding (other than our losing streak) how Florida is in with the same record as us but a lot less Quad 1 wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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