HoosierJax Posted March 2, 2019 Report Share Posted March 2, 2019 5 minutes ago, Hoosierinbham said: This is one of the rare years where the system really favors our body of work. When they trot the committee member out to explain the confusing set of selection parameters, you will see. The graphic with three blind teams and their season metrics will be very telling. Our overall record may not be impressive, but quad 1 wins vs quad 3/4 losses will be exceptional. Strength of schedule and road wins will be huge as well. Now we just need to win. Need to win and win and win.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted March 2, 2019 Report Share Posted March 2, 2019 23 minutes ago, HoosierJax said: 15-14...some not so good losses, IU will have atleast 15 losses if they dont win out...how can you get an atlarge bid with that many losses. We have zero not so good losses based on what the committee looks at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted March 2, 2019 Report Share Posted March 2, 2019 I've been one that said many times that we needed to get to 19 wins. I now truly believe that 18-15 gets us in unless there are a slew of upsets in the conference tournaments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted March 2, 2019 Report Share Posted March 2, 2019 21 minutes ago, jv1972iu said: So, losing to Rutgers and NW aren't considered bad losses? Since when did they become bb powerhouses? Both were on the road. They don't have to be powerhouses, but they are top 100 teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proud2BAHoosier Posted March 2, 2019 Report Share Posted March 2, 2019 Lunardi on ESPN just said IU is on the bubble..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted March 2, 2019 Report Share Posted March 2, 2019 27 minutes ago, jv1972iu said: So, losing to Rutgers and NW aren't considered bad losses? Since when did they become bb powerhouses? We live in an analytical world, the name on the front of the jersey has nothing to do with it. According to the metrics, losing to those teams on the road is not bad losses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted March 2, 2019 Report Share Posted March 2, 2019 32 minutes ago, jv1972iu said: So, losing to Rutgers and NW aren't considered bad losses? Since when did they become bb powerhouses? Would losing to a 17-12 Arizona team on the road be a bad loss? I ask because they are ONE position ahead of Northwestern in the KenPom ratings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierJax Posted March 2, 2019 Report Share Posted March 2, 2019 10 minutes ago, KoB2011 said: Both were on the road. They don't have to be powerhouses, but they are top 100 teams. Home loss to Nebraska does not help...12-5 home record...2-9 road..been nice not to lose so many at home Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxnJxn Posted March 2, 2019 Report Share Posted March 2, 2019 1 minute ago, HoosierJax said: Home loss to Nebraska does not help...12-5 home record...2-9 road..been nice not to lose so many at home Yeah, I'm wondering if Nebraska continues to tank if that loss will end up being considered a bad one. Sure did seem like one at the time, but that was more because we seemed to sleepwalk through it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArchieBall13 Posted March 2, 2019 Report Share Posted March 2, 2019 35 minutes ago, jv1972iu said: So, losing to Rutgers and NW aren't considered bad losses? Since when did they become bb powerhouses? All based on metrics. Both of these games were on the road, which makes the Quad3/Quad 4 loss threshold even more difficult to pick up. As others have mentioned, the depth of the BIG is playing to our favor this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted March 2, 2019 Report Share Posted March 2, 2019 1 minute ago, AxnJxn said: Yeah, I'm wondering if Nebraska continues to tank if that loss will end up being considered a bad one. Sure did seem like one at the time, but that was more because we seemed to sleepwalk through it. Nebraska still top 50 in KenPom (ahead of us, actually). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted March 2, 2019 Report Share Posted March 2, 2019 3 minutes ago, AxnJxn said: Yeah, I'm wondering if Nebraska continues to tank if that loss will end up being considered a bad one. Sure did seem like one at the time, but that was more because we seemed to sleepwalk through it. It’s not deemed a bad loss because of lethargic play, that’s has nothing to do with it. It’s all metrics based. At the time, Nebraska was a top team, and even now they’re a top 50 team based on the metrics because the Big Ten is so strong/deep. There probably isn’t even anyone on the committee who actually watched that game, they’re just looking at the analytical resume of the teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierJax Posted March 2, 2019 Report Share Posted March 2, 2019 6 minutes ago, 5fouls said: Would losing to a 17-12 Arizona team on the road be a bad loss? I ask because they are ONE position ahead of Northwestern in the KenPom ratings. Who should get in.. Minnesota or IU..IU lost at Minny and Minny has a better conference record..Lunardi says Minny still has work to do,IU is back on the bubble discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierJax Posted March 2, 2019 Report Share Posted March 2, 2019 3 minutes ago, 5fouls said: Nebraska still top 50 in KenPom (ahead of us, actually). So should they get in ,if IU does Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted March 2, 2019 Report Share Posted March 2, 2019 1 minute ago, HoosierJax said: Who should get in.. Minnesota or IU..IU lost at Minny and Minny has a better conference record..Lunardi says Minny still has work to do,IU is back on the bubble discussion. Conference record and head-to-head don’t really matter either. IU has 6 quad 1 wins and no quad 3-4 losses. I don’t know Minnesota’s metrics, but there not as good. The Louisville and Marquette wins are going to be huge down the stretch here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted March 2, 2019 Report Share Posted March 2, 2019 1 minute ago, HoosierJax said: Who should get in.. Minnesota or IU..IU lost at Minny and Minny has a better conference record..Lunardi says Minny still has work to do,IU is back on the bubble discussion. Minnesota gets in before IU, unless they totally collapse. The head to head would be a determining factor, especially since they have a better overall record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxnJxn Posted March 2, 2019 Report Share Posted March 2, 2019 1 minute ago, BGleas said: It’s not deemed a bad loss because of lethargic play, that’s has nothing to do with it. It’s all metrics based. At the time, Nebraska was a top team, and even now they’re a top 50 team based on the metrics because the Big Ten is so strong/deep. There probably isn’t even anyone on the committee who actually watched that game, they’re just looking at the analytical resume of the teams. Yeah, I understand that, think you misunderstood my comment. I was just saying that it felt like a bad loss to me based on how we played, I wasn't seriously saying that the committee would consider that aspect of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted March 2, 2019 Report Share Posted March 2, 2019 1 minute ago, HoosierJax said: So should they get in ,if IU does If we end up with the same record as Nebraska, neither should get in. i'm counting on IU finishing 18-15 or 19-15. Nebraska will not approach that overall record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted March 2, 2019 Report Share Posted March 2, 2019 11 minutes ago, HoosierJax said: Home loss to Nebraska does not help...12-5 home record...2-9 road..been nice not to lose so many at home Again, that isn't a bad loss. If you're going to have this conversation, you need to understand what is considered a good and bad loss. It isn't some subjective point to be argued. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxnJxn Posted March 2, 2019 Report Share Posted March 2, 2019 Looks like Rutgers is the lowest in Kenpom in the 80s range. Begs the question - are any losses considered bad losses in this year's B1G? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierJax Posted March 2, 2019 Report Share Posted March 2, 2019 4 minutes ago, KoB2011 said: Again, that isn't a bad loss. If you're going to have this conversation, you need to understand what is considered a good and bad loss. It isn't some subjective point to be argued. 😂...ok go thur all 14 losses and YOU tell me which are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zlinedavid Posted March 2, 2019 Report Share Posted March 2, 2019 Just now, HoosierJax said: 😂...ok go thur all 14 losses and YOU tell me which are Based on the current analytical models being used, none. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FKIM01 Posted March 2, 2019 Report Share Posted March 2, 2019 Just now, HoosierJax said: 😂...ok go thur all 14 losses and YOU tell me which are Per the metrics, none of them are. Nebraska probably feels the worst, but it's not considered a bad loss yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted March 2, 2019 Report Share Posted March 2, 2019 1 minute ago, HoosierJax said: 😂...ok go thur all 14 losses and YOU tell me which are None of them are bad losses. It's really easy to look at our quad 3 and quad 4 losses and see we don't have any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierJax Posted March 2, 2019 Report Share Posted March 2, 2019 Just now, Zlinedavid said: Based on the current analytical models being used, none. Ok.. we are in...🤙 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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