Coach1K Posted June 23, 2018 Report Share Posted June 23, 2018 Is it me or does Charlotte not draft well on draft night and hopefully Cody gets to play some. I saw maybe the first few minutes of the draft before it started to rain and then I had to go to my computer and try to watch the rest of it and then the wifi went out on me so yeah that was my draft night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUALUM03 Posted June 25, 2018 Report Share Posted June 25, 2018 Lance Stephenson team option declined making him a free agent. I know he has his negatives, but I love watching the guy play. Disappointed, but I trust Pritchard at this point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted June 25, 2018 Report Share Posted June 25, 2018 (edited) 11 minutes ago, IUALUM03 said: Lance Stephenson team option declined making him a free agent. I know he has his negatives, but I love watching the guy play. Disappointed, but I trust Pritchard at this point. I love this move for the Pacers because Lance has been my least favorite player for any team I have been a fan of. I can't stand his antics and I think for most part he is an embarrassment to the organization. He is so inconsistent because he only plays well in front of the home crowd and disappears on the road. Great day for the Pacers Maybe they are going after Lebron and they knew he wouldn't come to the Pacers if Lance was on the team LOL!!!!!!!!!!! Edited June 25, 2018 by IU Scott Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CauseThatsMyDJ Posted June 25, 2018 Report Share Posted June 25, 2018 D-bag Paul George returns! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUALUM03 Posted June 25, 2018 Report Share Posted June 25, 2018 32 minutes ago, CauseThatsMyDJ said: D-bag Paul George returns! LOL. As much as I like Stephenson, Lance kind of screwed himself when he declined a five year deal to go elsewhere, then came back when it didn't work out for him. If he took that offer, he would still be under contract for another two seasons and would have made more, I believe, over the duration, then what he will currently pull in. PG just needs to shut up. I have never had a problem with him doing what is best for him, but I did take issue when he put us in a bad spot by publicly leaking his intentions and backing the organization that drafted him, invested time in developing him, and did put a winning team around him for a majority of his time as a player. Luckily, we pulled the right player into the right situation for him to thrive, but odds our it shouldn't have worked out in our favor the way it did because of PG's actions and overall petulance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FKIM01 Posted June 25, 2018 Report Share Posted June 25, 2018 I'm sorry to see Lance go. Pacers seem to get a lot more out of him than anyone else and he seemed to like it here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierhoopster Posted June 25, 2018 Report Share Posted June 25, 2018 1 hour ago, CauseThatsMyDJ said: D-bag Paul George returns! D-bag Bird is gone! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierhoopster Posted June 25, 2018 Report Share Posted June 25, 2018 32 minutes ago, FKIM01 said: I'm sorry to see Lance go. Pacers seem to get a lot more out of him than anyone else and he seemed to like it here. He's kind of "fun," but the P's need a real point guard and allowing him to go frees up more cash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted June 25, 2018 Report Share Posted June 25, 2018 1 hour ago, Hoosierhoopster said: He's kind of "fun," but the P's need a real point guard and allowing him to go frees up more cash. Huh? We are likely set at PG for a while now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierhoopster Posted June 25, 2018 Report Share Posted June 25, 2018 23 minutes ago, KoB2011 said: Huh? We are likely set at PG for a while now. Kind of a mind blank but starting pg? Collision? P’s need a couple pieces. Collison is not the long term solution Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted June 26, 2018 Report Share Posted June 26, 2018 33 minutes ago, Hoosierhoopster said: Kind of a mind blank but starting pg? Collision? P’s need a couple pieces. Collison is not the long term solution Holliday probably is though. We need a wing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoosierfan615 Posted June 26, 2018 Report Share Posted June 26, 2018 Vic just won the NBA’s most improved player award!! Congratulations Vic! Well deserved!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted June 26, 2018 Report Share Posted June 26, 2018 3 hours ago, Hoosierhoopster said: He's kind of "fun," but the P's need a real point guard and allowing him to go frees up more cash. Collison, Joseph, and Holliday is an above average trio. Two veterans to hold fort until the rookie is ready. Pacers could do a LOT worse than Collison as their starter. I hate to see Lance go. He was a vital piece to last year's success. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FKIM01 Posted June 26, 2018 Report Share Posted June 26, 2018 (edited) Lance was the Pacers' Will Sheehey. I never laughed any harder then when he blew in LeBron's ear and literally got in his head... I get that Lance could be a polarizing figure, but I read some interviews he did this last year and it really seemed like he'd grown up quite a bit. At one point, he showed a lot of poise when a reporter tried to bait him on a controversial subject. Lance deferred, even though I know it was tempting to wade in and I respected him a lot for that. I'll say it again, I understand the dollars and cents part of the business but I'm sorry to see Lance go. Edited June 26, 2018 by FKIM01 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted June 26, 2018 Report Share Posted June 26, 2018 12 hours ago, Hoosierhoopster said: Kind of a mind blank but starting pg? Collision? P’s need a couple pieces. Collison is not the long term solution PG position is in real good shape with Collison, Joseph and Holiday. What the Pacers need is a young PF especially if Young opts out and backup wings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierhoopster Posted June 26, 2018 Report Share Posted June 26, 2018 11 hours ago, 5fouls said: Collison, Joseph, and Holliday is an above average trio. Two veterans to hold fort until the rookie is ready. Pacers could do a LOT worse than Collison as their starter. I hate to see Lance go. He was a vital piece to last year's success. I don't think Collison is bad, but he is a second string pg, he's not a quality starting point. He was a fill in for the Pacers. If the P's want to get to the "next level" they need a top flight pg. Naming better point guards than Collison? That's a long list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted June 26, 2018 Report Share Posted June 26, 2018 30 minutes ago, Hoosierhoopster said: I don't think Collison is bad, but he is a second string pg, he's not a quality starting point. He was a fill in for the Pacers. If the P's want to get to the "next level" they need a top flight pg. Naming better point guards than Collison? That's a long list. I know he's not a point guard, but I find this comparison interesting. Darrin Collison - PER of 18.8 last season Paul George - PER of 18.7 last season 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indykev Posted June 26, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2018 LOL. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FW_Hoosier Posted June 26, 2018 Report Share Posted June 26, 2018 2 hours ago, Hoosierhoopster said: I don't think Collison is bad, but he is a second string pg, he's not a quality starting point. He was a fill in for the Pacers. If the P's want to get to the "next level" they need a top flight pg. Naming better point guards than Collison? That's a long list. But really, isn’t Vic the point guard? I know he’s nominally a “shooting guard,” but he had the ball in his hands a lot (30.0 usage %, just behind Kyrie and ahead of Steph), and averaged more than 4 assists per game. Kind of similar to how Harden is nominally a “shooting guard,” but always has the ball in his hands and is the primary initiator of the offense (I realize Vic has a ways to go to match Harden as a distributor). I don’t think the Pacers have a big need for a top flight PG, as they already basically have one in Vic. Collison, Joseph, and Holiday are decent options alongside him. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted June 26, 2018 Report Share Posted June 26, 2018 1 hour ago, FW_Hoosier said: But really, isn’t Vic the point guard? I know he’s nominally a “shooting guard,” but he had the ball in his hands a lot (30.0 usage %, just behind Kyrie and ahead of Steph), and averaged more than 4 assists per game. Kind of similar to how Harden is nominally a “shooting guard,” but always has the ball in his hands and is the primary initiator of the offense (I realize Vic has a ways to go to match Harden as a distributor). I don’t think the Pacers have a big need for a top flight PG, as they already basically have one in Vic. Collison, Joseph, and Holiday are decent options alongside him. That is an interesting take there.....and one I agree with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FKIM01 Posted June 26, 2018 Report Share Posted June 26, 2018 1 hour ago, FW_Hoosier said: I realize Vic has a ways to go to match Harden as a distributor. ...but all he has to do to match Hardin defensively is stand on the floor and wave his arms in the general direction of the opposing player closest to him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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FW_Hoosier Posted June 26, 2018 Report Share Posted June 26, 2018 5 minutes ago, FKIM01 said: ...but all he has to do to match Hardin defensively is stand on the floor and wave his arms in the general direction of the opposing player closest to him. Most definitely. I was just anticipating push-back based on the difference in assist numbers between Harden and Vic, as the focus on “true point guards” tends to emphasize distributing the ball. Regardless of the fact that Vic is more of a score-first than pass-first guard, I think he still qualifies as the Pacers point guard considering how much he has the ball in his hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierhoopster Posted June 26, 2018 Report Share Posted June 26, 2018 1 hour ago, FW_Hoosier said: But really, isn’t Vic the point guard? I know he’s nominally a “shooting guard,” but he had the ball in his hands a lot (30.0 usage %, just behind Kyrie and ahead of Steph), and averaged more than 4 assists per game. Kind of similar to how Harden is nominally a “shooting guard,” but always has the ball in his hands and is the primary initiator of the offense (I realize Vic has a ways to go to match Harden as a distributor). I don’t think the Pacers have a big need for a top flight PG, as they already basically have one in Vic. Collison, Joseph, and Holiday are decent options alongside him. You could say that I guess, though I don’t think he really is - but then i’d say if the P’s want to really contend they need another high level starting guard. Collison is not at that level, he’ll he was formerly a Pacers backup and was traded, he’s an interim guy in my book. These replies strike me as some kind of loyalty thing. If we were talking about a team other than the P’s, but with the same players, I doubt people would be so reactionary to the idea that Collison is not the long term starting guard if the team wants to get to the next level Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierhoopster Posted June 26, 2018 Report Share Posted June 26, 2018 10 minutes ago, Indykev said: Right, but Fouls will still mock PG's PER! Hey let's spend another month going down the mock PG path. In other news, both are great players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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