BGleas Posted October 29, 2020 Report Share Posted October 29, 2020 3 hours ago, Hoosierhoopster said: This is the thing with trade speculation, it’s always so one sided by fans, it’s driven by what the fans of a team want without really looking at what the other team would demand (realistically). No way the Warriors di that, they’re far from stupid. Now if we were talking a front office like Sacto, well, different conversation lol Yeah, most fans (myself included) overrate their favorite teams talent. There is no way GS is trading the #2 pick for Myles Turner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted October 29, 2020 Report Share Posted October 29, 2020 1 hour ago, BGleas said: Yeah, most fans (myself included) overrate their favorite teams talent. There is no way GS is trading the #2 pick for Myles Turner. Not saying Turner is great but to me he is better than anyone in this draft. He is still young enough and will be under contract so it wouldn't be like a rental. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwtaylor1055 Posted October 29, 2020 Report Share Posted October 29, 2020 Danny Manning being considered for an assistant spot for the Pacers. Has ties to Pritchard(played together at Kansas). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2345 Posted October 29, 2020 Report Share Posted October 29, 2020 9 hours ago, BGleas said: Yeah, most fans (myself included) overrate their favorite teams talent. There is no way GS is trading the #2 pick for Myles Turner. They would if the Pacers also took back Andrew Wiggins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2345 Posted October 29, 2020 Report Share Posted October 29, 2020 Apparently the Bucks and Pacers have had some talks centered around Vic. I would think that would possibly need to be a 3 team deal to make salaries work. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwtaylor1055 Posted October 29, 2020 Report Share Posted October 29, 2020 4 minutes ago, DC2345 said: Apparently the Bucks and Pacers have had some talks centered around Vic. I would think that would possibly need to be a 3 team deal to make salaries work. Yeah I saw this too. A 3rd team would be a must for this to happen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2345 Posted October 29, 2020 Report Share Posted October 29, 2020 15 minutes ago, dwtaylor1055 said: Yeah I saw this too. A 3rd team would be a must for this to happen I'd take DivVincenzo and the Pacers pick but there will need to be more salary than that obviously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted October 29, 2020 Report Share Posted October 29, 2020 20 hours ago, DC2345 said: Well he’d be an assistant that has NBA ties and doesn’t have to recruit players. Sorry I didn’t know his past as a coach other than Wake Forest which wasn’t very encouraging. Obviously know of his playing days but wonder if he had a reputation for well anything as a coach. Development, offensive mind, defensive....or just an another ex player riding on his name and playing days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted October 29, 2020 Report Share Posted October 29, 2020 11 hours ago, dwtaylor1055 said: Danny Manning being considered for an assistant spot for the Pacers. Has ties to Pritchard(played together at Kansas). So not being hired on his track record...just good ol nepotism...nice! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted October 29, 2020 Report Share Posted October 29, 2020 18 hours ago, IU Scott said: Not saying Turner is great but to me he is better than anyone in this draft. He is still young enough and will be under contract so it wouldn't be like a rental. Indeed. GS doesn’t have 3-4 years to wait to develop a player if they want to win in this window for Steph, Klay, and Draymond. Now they probably can get a better player on the market but I’m not sure anyone in the draft is ready to contribute as a starter and in the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted October 29, 2020 Report Share Posted October 29, 2020 7 hours ago, DC2345 said: Apparently the Bucks and Pacers have had some talks centered around Vic. I would think that would possibly need to be a 3 team deal to make salaries work. Not sure what Pacers can get without gutting the Bucks core that they are trying to sell Gianis on. Also it’s a fellow conference team. Just don’t see them having the capital to make the deal. I look at a team like Dallas or a team like Minnesota that wants to make a big leap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted October 29, 2020 Report Share Posted October 29, 2020 10 hours ago, DC2345 said: They would if the Pacers also took back Andrew Wiggins. The Pacers would have to throw a lot more into the deal in that scenario. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2345 Posted October 29, 2020 Report Share Posted October 29, 2020 (edited) 13 minutes ago, BGleas said: The Pacers would have to throw a lot more into the deal in that scenario. No Pacers wouldn’t. The Warriors want to get rid of that contract and will give up the #2 pick to do that. He’s overpaid and they know it. Edited October 29, 2020 by DC2345 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted October 29, 2020 Report Share Posted October 29, 2020 13 minutes ago, BGleas said: The Pacers would have to throw a lot more into the deal in that scenario. Larry Bird? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2345 Posted October 29, 2020 Report Share Posted October 29, 2020 1 hour ago, dgambill said: So not being hired on his track record...just good ol nepotism...nice! He’s known for being a great mentor and talent developer. Players seem to like him. That’s what you need in assistant coaches. Plus I’d assume he’d work with the post players. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted October 30, 2020 Report Share Posted October 30, 2020 2 hours ago, DC2345 said: No Pacers wouldn’t. The Warriors want to get rid of that contract and will give up the #2 pick to do that. He’s overpaid and they know it. Yeah, the Warriors aren’t looking to just unload the #2 pick in a contract dump. Never happening. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierhoopster Posted October 30, 2020 Report Share Posted October 30, 2020 2 hours ago, BGleas said: Yeah, the Warriors aren’t looking to just unload the #2 pick in a contract dump. Never happening. This. The Warriors aren’t stupid, good grief. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted October 30, 2020 Report Share Posted October 30, 2020 Just now, Hoosierhoopster said: This. The Warriors aren’t stupid, good grief. I don't think they're stupid, but I think we need to consider this is probably the most unique situation imaginable for a team with the number two pick. I can't remember the last time a team with the number two pick was in a position to compete for a championship. The Warriors are a quality center away from having a dynamic starting five, and if it looks like Wiseman is going number one the best thing the Warriors can do to try to win multiple titles is deal for a center that fits their needs. Could a team offer someone better than Myles Turner? Of course. But will they? Who knows. Draymond, Klay, and Steph are all on the wrong side of 30. Do you think those guys would rather add a rookie with a lot of upside or a guy who can defend the rim, hit the three and get up and down the floor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierhoopster Posted October 30, 2020 Report Share Posted October 30, 2020 1 minute ago, KoB2011 said: I don't think they're stupid, but I think we need to consider this is probably the most unique situation imaginable for a team with the number two pick. I can't remember the last time a team with the number two pick was in a position to compete for a championship. The Warriors are a quality center away from having a dynamic starting five, and if it looks like Wiseman is going number one the best thing the Warriors can do to try to win multiple titles is deal for a center that fits their needs. Could a team offer someone better than Myles Turner? Of course. But will they? Who knows. Draymond, Klay, and Steph are all on the wrong side of 30. Do you think those guys would rather add a rookie with a lot of upside or a guy who can defend the rim, hit the three and get up and down the floor? In all seriousness this is Pacers fantasy land. There are multiple players GS would take before Turner. Pacers fans want to see Turner traded. So now it makes sense — to Pacers fans, and Pacers fans only, that GS would do this deal 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted October 30, 2020 Report Share Posted October 30, 2020 1 minute ago, Hoosierhoopster said: In all seriousness this is Pacers fantasy land. There are multiple players GS would take before Turner. Pacers fans want to see Turner traded. So now it makes sense — to Pacers fans, and Pacers fans only, that GS would do this deal It isn't. Just search Myles Turner Warriors and you'll see lots of hits that aren't from Pacers sites. But in all seriousnes, while there may be many players that the Warriors would prefer to Myles, who of those guys are they getting? They need a guy who can protect the rim and keep their spacing; who they getting better than Myles? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted October 30, 2020 Report Share Posted October 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, Hoosierhoopster said: In all seriousness this is Pacers fantasy land. There are multiple players GS would take before Turner. Pacers fans want to see Turner traded. So now it makes sense — to Pacers fans, and Pacers fans only, that GS would do this deal Not saying the trade will go down but it is just not from Pacers fans I have seen this trade mentioned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted October 30, 2020 Report Share Posted October 30, 2020 7 hours ago, KoB2011 said: I don't think they're stupid, but I think we need to consider this is probably the most unique situation imaginable for a team with the number two pick. I can't remember the last time a team with the number two pick was in a position to compete for a championship. The Warriors are a quality center away from having a dynamic starting five, and if it looks like Wiseman is going number one the best thing the Warriors can do to try to win multiple titles is deal for a center that fits their needs. Could a team offer someone better than Myles Turner? Of course. But will they? Who knows. Draymond, Klay, and Steph are all on the wrong side of 30. Do you think those guys would rather add a rookie with a lot of upside or a guy who can defend the rim, hit the three and get up and down the floor? I know they weren't as serious of a contender as the Warriors, or at least didn't have the past track record, but just 3-4 years ago the Celtics had the #1 pick coming off an appearance in the ECF. Not apples-to-apples, but still they had the #1 record in the East that year. The #2 pick in the draft, even if its a weaker draft, is not getting traded for a solid piece. The Warriors will either keep the pick to hedge bets for quicker transition out of this Era, or they'll swing for the fences to acquire another all-star. Myles Turner doesn't get it done. Maybe you go Turner and Vic in a larger package, but I still don't really see that happening. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted October 30, 2020 Report Share Posted October 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, BGleas said: I know they weren't as serious of a contender as the Warriors, or at least didn't have the past track record, but just 3-4 years ago the Celtics had the #1 pick coming off an appearance in the ECF. Not apples-to-apples, but still they had the #1 record in the East that year. The #2 pick in the draft, even if its a weaker draft, is not getting traded for a solid piece. The Warriors will either keep the pick to hedge bets for quicker transition out of this Era, or they'll swing for the fences to acquire another all-star. Myles Turner doesn't get it done. Maybe you go Turner and Vic in a larger package, but I still don't really see that happening. Wiseman could be sitting there at #2, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted October 30, 2020 Report Share Posted October 30, 2020 57 minutes ago, rico said: Wiseman could be sitting there at #2, right? He could be and probably will be. The Warriors are also throwing out signals, could be real or could be to fire up interest in the pick, that they were "blown away" by one of the foreign prospects in the draft. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2345 Posted October 30, 2020 Report Share Posted October 30, 2020 10 hours ago, BGleas said: Yeah, the Warriors aren’t looking to just unload the #2 pick in a contract dump. Never happening. 8 hours ago, Hoosierhoopster said: This. The Warriors aren’t stupid, good grief. Well actually there is real talk that they would consider it. They obviously would be wanting to get a player back that they feel fills a need. There is real chatter though that they are considering trading the pick with the Wiggins contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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