IU Scott Posted April 17, 2019 Report Share Posted April 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, Zlinedavid said: The statement "Hey, it's Christian Watford from IU" would make a lot of connections in a hurry. I hope people are joking about having Christian coming as a coach since he has no coaching experience at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zlinedavid Posted April 17, 2019 Report Share Posted April 17, 2019 Just now, IU Scott said: I hope people are joking about having Christian coming as a coach since he has no coaching experience at all. That's kind of what that DirOps position is for, IMO. A player like Derek Elston who knows the game but doesn't necessarily know how to coach yet can learn firsthand, without taking up one of the actual assistant positions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted April 17, 2019 Report Share Posted April 17, 2019 1 minute ago, Zlinedavid said: That's kind of what that DirOps position is for, IMO. A player like Derek Elston who knows the game but doesn't necessarily know how to coach yet can learn firsthand, without taking up one of the actual assistant positions. I thought you were talking about an actual assistant position Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zlinedavid Posted April 17, 2019 Report Share Posted April 17, 2019 Just now, IU Scott said: I thought you were talking about an actual assistant position LOL....no. Either way, it's a non-factor, since I'm sure neither Christian nor the rest of his family would leverage a position like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FKIM01 Posted April 17, 2019 Report Share Posted April 17, 2019 21 minutes ago, Cutter said: Cheney would be better for Indiana recruiting alone, hiring Watford to get his brother is short sighted at best. And where is the I want kids who want to be at Indiana thought. If we need to hire Christian just to get Trendon I would pass all day long I think you're way off here. I love Calbert, but the Espy-winning Wat Shot would resonate more with Indiana recruits right now. I know nothing of Christian's ability to coach, but I have a feeling he could recruit and I love the family behind him. I would even tell you that Christian would be an intriguing hire if Trendon went elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cutter Posted April 17, 2019 Report Share Posted April 17, 2019 Maybe but my stance is if Trendon doesn’t want to come to IU unless we hire Christian then I don’t want him! Just a personal preference i guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zlinedavid Posted April 17, 2019 Report Share Posted April 17, 2019 7 minutes ago, Cutter said: Maybe but my stance is if Trendon doesn’t want to come to IU unless we hire Christian then I don’t want him! Just a personal preference i guess If that's the belief, then it's time for the joke to die. The whole Christian-as-a-coach thing started as a joke, but if it's being presented as believable...yeah, time to put the brakes on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feathery Posted April 17, 2019 Report Share Posted April 17, 2019 38 minutes ago, Cutter said: It’s about Indiana connections to recruit the state. Hiring Christian reeks of desperation No it reeks of playing the game. Finally. Was Kansas desperate when they hired Mario Chalmers Dad? If so the were desperate enough to go win a national title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cutter Posted April 17, 2019 Report Share Posted April 17, 2019 Just now, Feathery said: No it reeks of playing the game. Finally. Was Kansas desperate when they hired Mario Chalmers Dad? If so the were desperate enough to go win a national title. I know what you are saying if we are going to do that, I think we should just pay players like the successful programs makes about as much sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted April 17, 2019 Report Share Posted April 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, Feathery said: No it reeks of playing the game. Finally. Was Kansas desperate when they hired Mario Chalmers Dad? If so the were desperate enough to go win a national title. Kansas hired Danny Manning's dad and then 3 year slater won the championship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FKIM01 Posted April 17, 2019 Report Share Posted April 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, Zlinedavid said: If that's the belief, then it's time for the joke to die. The whole Christian-as-a-coach thing started as a joke, but if it's being presented as believable...yeah, time to put the brakes on it. I'd be surprised if IU hired him either way...but I do think he'd be a personality that would interest Indiana kids, hence the words "intriguing hire". That being said, I'd be surprised if he was hired. Then again, I was surprised that Memphis hired Penny Hardaway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FKIM01 Posted April 17, 2019 Report Share Posted April 17, 2019 16 minutes ago, Cutter said: Maybe but my stance is if Trendon doesn’t want to come to IU unless we hire Christian then I don’t want him! Just a personal preference i guess Knowing that family, I don't think for a minute they'd make that a condition. I suspect Trendon might be more hesitant if IU hired Christian, but as has been said, that proposal was put forth in jest. I just don't think it's as far-fetched as you'd think for a joke proposal...Christian is still a big deal with Hoosier fans. Just guessing, those are not moves that would be blessed by IU's administration, so you could color me very surprised if they came as a package deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cutter Posted April 17, 2019 Report Share Posted April 17, 2019 Stack house hired David Grace who was Alford’s main recruiter he would have been a good hire for anybody wanting to play the recruiting game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted April 17, 2019 Report Share Posted April 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, Cutter said: Stack house hired David Grace who was Alford’s main recruiter he would have been a good hire for anybody wanting to play the recruiting game I want coaches who can teach the game of basketball and not just get recruiters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feathery Posted April 17, 2019 Report Share Posted April 17, 2019 25 minutes ago, Cutter said: I know what you are saying if we are going to do that, I think we should just pay players like the successful programs makes about as much sense I’m not opposed to paying players, if it becomes legal. Right now you can hire a relative as an assistant and it’s legal. Play within the rules and use them to your advantage is my over arching thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feathery Posted April 17, 2019 Report Share Posted April 17, 2019 11 minutes ago, IU Scott said: I want coaches who can teach the game of basketball and not just get recruiters I want both. Great recruiters and great teachers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cutter Posted April 17, 2019 Report Share Posted April 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, Feathery said: I’m not opposed to paying players, if it becomes legal. Right now you can hire a relative as an assistant and it’s legal. Play within the rules and use them to your advantage is my over arching thought. Yeah probably the smart thing but I don’t always choose that path lol. I am tired of coach k cheating and getting away with it and the other coaches we know about, then hearing the tv commentators slobbering all over each other saying what great coaches they are. Also tired of some kids wanting their butts kissed all of the time. College basketball is the last sport I follow closely because of similar reasons like 300 million dollar contracts to play a game it’s sickening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted April 17, 2019 Report Share Posted April 17, 2019 23 minutes ago, IU Scott said: I want coaches who can teach the game of basketball and not just get recruiters Are you implying Christian can't teach the game? He could be a brilliant tactician for all we know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotIThatLives Posted April 17, 2019 Report Share Posted April 17, 2019 19 minutes ago, Feathery said: I’m not opposed to paying players, if it becomes legal. Right now you can hire a relative as an assistant and it’s legal. Play within the rules and use them to your advantage is my over arching thought. Exactly. It wouldn't even be remotely questionable to hire a young man with his stature, character, and legacy. The fact that his brother is a stud is icing on the cake. We have Elston on staff, who I remember hearing stories, early in his career that he was quite the party animal. I do believe he grew up before our eyes at IU. There are a handful of useful jobs that are not coach positions that CWat could man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted April 17, 2019 Report Share Posted April 17, 2019 41 minutes ago, 5fouls said: Are you implying Christian can't teach the game? He could be a brilliant tactician for all we know. Was not talking about Watford at all but the assistant coach that Vandy just hired Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted April 17, 2019 Report Share Posted April 17, 2019 1 hour ago, IU Scott said: I want coaches who can teach the game of basketball and not just get recruiters Reading Grace's bio, it seems he's not only a highly respected recruiter, but knows how to coach basketball as well...Bio "David has been tremendous," Alford said. "I've been fortunate in my 23 years to not just hire people who understand basketball but who are also really good people, and that's what David is. He's a great guy and he's a tireless worker. He's always on the phone calling or texting recruits."[20] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted April 17, 2019 Report Share Posted April 17, 2019 24 minutes ago, IU Scott said: Was not talking about Watford at all but the assistant coach that Vandy just hired My point is that, from our anonymous poster position, we have very little understanding of the quality of an assistant coach hire until the said coach has a chance to prove himself. That's true whether it is IU, Vandy, or Incarnate Word. We simply do not know enough to pass judgement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DunkinDipo Posted April 17, 2019 Report Share Posted April 17, 2019 If Ostrom leaves then I say get Lewis! I think he would be the most qualified "IU guy" besides Fife. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierJax Posted April 18, 2019 Report Share Posted April 18, 2019 Is Ostrom in line for a Head Coach job? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billingsley99 Posted April 18, 2019 Report Share Posted April 18, 2019 20 minutes ago, HoosierJax said: Is Ostrom in line for a Head Coach job? I thought he took the NKU job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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