Seeking6 Posted August 20, 2019 Report Share Posted August 20, 2019 Just thinking out loud here. If the chatter proves right (and given Leal, Galloway commits) for Cross is anyone else concerned about our bigs? Or is it just simply Archie's way of stocking the team with as many good basketball players as possible? I won't be concerned about it for 20/21 year with Brunk and more than likely TJD back....or is this Archie's way of clearing the path for Furst and Kaufman and being able to offer immediate playing time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted August 20, 2019 Report Share Posted August 20, 2019 24 minutes ago, dbmhoosier said: I want Cross badly but it seems that Archie can never close on out of state top 100 guys. Hunter being the exception but that was a unique situation. I think he's an Aggie or a Gator unfortunately. I am pretty sure Race was a top 100 player in his class before re classify. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted August 20, 2019 Report Share Posted August 20, 2019 7 minutes ago, Seeking6 said: Just thinking out loud here. If the chatter proves right (and given Leal, Galloway commits) for Cross is anyone else concerned about our bigs? Or is it just simply Archie's way of stocking the team with as many good basketball players as possible? I won't be concerned about it for 20/21 year with Brunk and more than likely TJD back....or is this Archie's way of clearing the path for Furst and Kaufman and being able to offer immediate playing time? I am not worried because a lot of teams don't really play two big guys together anyways. We would have TJD, Race and Brunk next year and I think Cross can play a stretch 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndyResident16 Posted August 20, 2019 Report Share Posted August 20, 2019 27 minutes ago, Seeking6 said: Just thinking out loud here. If the chatter proves right (and given Leal, Galloway commits) for Cross is anyone else concerned about our bigs? Or is it just simply Archie's way of stocking the team with as many good basketball players as possible? I won't be concerned about it for 20/21 year with Brunk and more than likely TJD back....or is this Archie's way of clearing the path for Furst and Kaufman and being able to offer immediate playing time? That's how I take it. I think if Cross commits, Archie is going to be very selective on who he takes from there on out. A Cross commitment likely rules out Geronimo, Diarra, and Jalen Bridges, the latter who we don't have a very good shot of landing anyway. I think he would still give that 4th scholarship to Love if he wants to come but I think he turns that focus to Garcia, Loveday, and possibly Brown-Ferguson who is working on re-classifying and Archie is recruiting as such. If we don't get either of those 3 look for Archie to bank the fourth scholarship that we can use on a grad transfer big or ball-handler that won't affect the 2021 numbers. Personally I don't see Kauffman and Furst playing together. I suppose it's possible if TJD leaves after 2 years and then you start Furst and Kauffman together but they both play the same position and both will want to play a 4 role at the collegiate level as that is what will prepare them for the next level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted August 20, 2019 Report Share Posted August 20, 2019 6 minutes ago, IndyResident16 said: That's how I take it. I think if Cross commits, Archie is going to be very selective on who he takes from there on out. A Cross commitment likely rules out Geronimo, Diarra, and Jalen Bridges, the latter who we don't have a very good shot of landing anyway. I think he would still give that 4th scholarship to Love if he wants to come but I think he turns that focus to Garcia, Loveday, and possibly Brown-Ferguson who is working on re-classifying and Archie is recruiting as such. If we don't get either of those 3 look for Archie to bank the fourth scholarship that we can use on a grad transfer big or ball-handler that won't affect the 2021 numbers. Personally I don't see Kauffman and Furst playing together. I suppose it's possible if TJD leaves after 2 years and then you start Furst and Kauffman together but they both play the same position and both will want to play a 4 role at the collegiate level as that is what will prepare them for the next level. Why do I always forget about Garcia specifically....and the 2 others you mentioned. Thanks for the reminder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndyResident16 Posted August 20, 2019 Report Share Posted August 20, 2019 20 minutes ago, Seeking6 said: Why do I always forget about Garcia specifically....and the 2 others you mentioned. Thanks for the reminder. Garcia is garnishing the most national attention out of the 3 so on the surface it may appear that IU may be a long shot, but I think IU has a decent shot of landing Garcia. Ostrom has been recruiting him very hard as he is from the same area as Garcia and Garcia seems to be good friends with guys like Galloway and Leal as they have played against each other on the Adidas circuit for the last few years. I've heard Galloway especially, is really trying to convince Garcia to come to IU. Not sold he comes, but I at least give IU a puncher's chance. I think he'll schedule an OV before it's all said and done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwtaylor1055 Posted August 20, 2019 Report Share Posted August 20, 2019 Remember Archie loved him guys with length that could play multiple positions while at Dayton if my memory serves correctly. Leal 6'5"(SG and SF)/Galloway 6'4"(SG or SF)/Cross 6'7"(SF or PF). Leal and Galloway can play the 2 and/or 3. Cross can play the 3 and/or 4(small ball). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13th&Jackson Posted August 20, 2019 Report Share Posted August 20, 2019 8 minutes ago, dwtaylor1055 said: Remember Archie loved him guys with length that could play multiple positions while at Dayton if my memory serves correctly. Leal 6'5"(SG and SF)/Galloway 6'4"(SG or SF)/Cross 6'7"(SF or PF). Leal and Galloway can play the 2 and/or 3. Cross can play the 3 and/or 4(small ball). I would add Franklin to that rotation as well. In addition, it's apparent that CAM is targeting 3-4 year guys who are tough, highly-coachable, multi-skilled players with high basketball IQs to build a solid foundation. TJD, even though a McDonald's AA, comes across as a humble, team-first kid. Likely to have solid chemistry with this group going forward (we'll see how this season goes). I suspect this group will play hard, not only for IU and the coaching staff, but for each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iuhoopsfan Posted August 20, 2019 Report Share Posted August 20, 2019 With Geronimo's upcoming visit, you have to think that the heat is on Cross if he wants to go to IU. May be the reason the recent chatter about Cross to IU has surfaced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndyResident16 Posted August 20, 2019 Report Share Posted August 20, 2019 16 minutes ago, Iuhoopsfan said: With Geronimo's upcoming visit, you have to think that the heat is on Cross if he wants to go to IU. May be the reason the recent chatter about Cross to IU has surfaced. I think Geronimo's visit to IU was pretty strategic as he is taking his OV the same weekend as Cross is taking his last visit to A&M. Cross has always intended that he'd like to make a decision sometime late Aug/early September and a commitment somewhere seems imminent. If Cross chooses elsewhere I think IU wants Geronimo to strike as quickly as possible so his recruitment doesn't continue to drag. IU really needs to secure 3 Fall signings so they can really hone in on Garcia/Loveday/Brown-Ferguson who are likely Springs signings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Robby Posted August 20, 2019 Report Share Posted August 20, 2019 1 hour ago, IndyResident16 said: That's how I take it. I think if Cross commits, Archie is going to be very selective on who he takes from there on out. A Cross commitment likely rules out Geronimo, Diarra, and Jalen Bridges, the latter who we don't have a very good shot of landing anyway. I think he would still give that 4th scholarship to Love if he wants to come but I think he turns that focus to Garcia, Loveday, and possibly Brown-Ferguson who is working on re-classifying and Archie is recruiting as such. If we don't get either of those 3 look for Archie to bank the fourth scholarship that we can use on a grad transfer big or ball-handler that won't affect the 2021 numbers. Personally I don't see Kauffman and Furst playing together. I suppose it's possible if TJD leaves after 2 years and then you start Furst and Kauffman together but they both play the same position and both will want to play a 4 role at the collegiate level as that is what will prepare them for the next level. I think Furst ends up at Purdue or Michigan State. I'm willing to bet he won't be a Hoosier. Kaufmann will be a Hoosier at some point, IMO. It's attractive for good hs players to play at IU again (Leal, Galloway, Franklin, TJD, etc.) Lander will be the ultimate domino. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndyResident16 Posted August 20, 2019 Report Share Posted August 20, 2019 22 minutes ago, Coach Robby said: I think Furst ends up at Purdue or Michigan State. I'm willing to bet he won't be a Hoosier. Kaufmann will be a Hoosier at some point, IMO. It's attractive for good hs players to play at IU again (Leal, Galloway, Franklin, TJD, etc.) Lander will be the ultimate domino. I think that's the likely scenario. Kauffman and Lander are likely slated to play with each other on Indiana Elite next year and like Galloway and Leal could be a package deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billingsley99 Posted August 20, 2019 Report Share Posted August 20, 2019 22 minutes ago, IndyResident16 said: I think that's the likely scenario. Kauffman and Lander are likely slated to play with each other on Indiana Elite next year and like Galloway and Leal could be a package deal. I agree with both assessments. Those are the 2 in state I want most but would gladly take Furst as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU_Realist Posted August 20, 2019 Report Share Posted August 20, 2019 12 hours ago, Indykev said: Thats how we roll here...lol. Not sure this guy is but Peegs follows him. Nicks a good dude and knows his basketball. He has some good connections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobSaccamanno Posted August 20, 2019 Report Share Posted August 20, 2019 6 hours ago, 5fouls said: This one is really interesting. From all indications, Archie wants Cross badly. If so, obviously has plans for him. If Cross commits, it will be interesting to see what those are. Attack dog! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUwins0708 Posted August 20, 2019 Report Share Posted August 20, 2019 He may not make his last visit. Also Geronimo may not take his either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billingsley99 Posted August 20, 2019 Report Share Posted August 20, 2019 6 minutes ago, IUwins0708 said: He may not make his last visit. Also Geronimo may not take his either. I am not the brightest crayon in the box, so what you are saying is Cross to IU so no need for Geronimo to make the trip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted August 20, 2019 Report Share Posted August 20, 2019 4 minutes ago, Billingsley99 said: I am not the brightest crayon in the box, so what you are saying is Cross to IU so no need for Geronimo to make the trip sounds like what he means and hope it is true because Cross is the player I am hoping for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted August 20, 2019 Report Share Posted August 20, 2019 All I know is we are setting up to have one seriously good defensive team. We have so many parts that can all switch and guard the ball and have enough size to contest shots. I love it. Not only that but I think these guys could knock down jumpers on the offensive end too if their number is called. If we get Love or Landers and finish off strong with bigs like Kaufman, Garcia, Loveday, Brown-Ferguson combo we might be seeing our next B1G championship team coming together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobSaccamanno Posted August 20, 2019 Report Share Posted August 20, 2019 12 minutes ago, dgambill said: All I know is we are setting up to have one seriously good defensive team. We have so many parts that can all switch and guard the ball and have enough size to contest shots. I love it. Not only that but I think these guys could knock down jumpers on the offensive end too if their number is called. If we get Love or Landers and finish off strong with bigs like Kaufman, Garcia, Loveday, Brown-Ferguson combo we might be seeing our next B1G championship team coming together. And hopefully with legitimate depth to cover all contingencies. We haven't seen that in awhile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocHoosier Posted August 21, 2019 Report Share Posted August 21, 2019 6 hours ago, IUwins0708 said: He may not make his last visit. Also Geronimo may not take his either. Oh I hope your right. Like this guys game. Strikes me as a classic 4-man in Villanova offense. Hard nose, can extend the floor and doesn’t back down on defense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoosier_exotics Posted August 21, 2019 Report Share Posted August 21, 2019 Im not seeing this kid as a 4 at all,unless we have some major foul trouble and hes covering a need... Looks like a very tough nosed 3 to me. Kid can shoot and handle the rock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted August 21, 2019 Report Share Posted August 21, 2019 21 hours ago, IndyResident16 said: I think Geronimo's visit to IU was pretty strategic as he is taking his OV the same weekend as Cross is taking his last visit to A&M. Cross has always intended that he'd like to make a decision sometime late Aug/early September and a commitment somewhere seems imminent. If Cross chooses elsewhere I think IU wants Geronimo to strike as quickly as possible so his recruitment doesn't continue to drag. IU really needs to secure 3 Fall signings so they can really hone in on Garcia/Loveday/Brown-Ferguson who are likely Springs signings. I applaud the strategy and our staff for setting it up this way. Seemed like after our friend chose UK last spring we were scrambling and didn't recover. I like this strategy much more. Pressure back on the kids/families,etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
68Hoosier Posted August 21, 2019 Report Share Posted August 21, 2019 Do we feel like he is close to making his decision? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU_Realist Posted August 21, 2019 Report Share Posted August 21, 2019 People probably need to expect IU to go bigger in the future. Look at Sean Miller teams. Two bigs, big SF, SG and PG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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