Bustout Posted October 30, 2020 Report Share Posted October 30, 2020 1 minute ago, IUCrazy2 said: Enh...the best player in that class reclassed and chose IU. People get too wrapped up in this stuff. We all thought the tide had turned when Romeo committed and we all thought the Oladipo/Sheehey class was mediocre. It is somewhat fun to speculate on where kids go and I would definitely argue that you need higher ranked players more often than not to make noise, but it's one guy. Also, on Painter, he is Tom Crean without the spotlight. He is up and down like a roller coaster and he has done some weird kind of things...the main difference is that he is at Purdue and the majority of people just don't care what they are doing. "But, but Indiana has not faired well the past 10 to 15 years..." I agree, and the coach of Indiana takes grief about that from all over while Painter, with similar results, is a "good coach". Ok, whatever...he would have been run out of Bloomington on a rail with his results. Miller has been "enh" so far IMO, but I am not going to freak or get all concerned about Painter. "Enh" Archie Miller has still landed more Indiana talent with his "enh" record than Painter has since Miller got here. The recruits are not a big concern right now, that will take care of itself. What we see Miller do with the actual players is what matters. He’s much better coach than Crean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted October 30, 2020 Report Share Posted October 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, IUCrazy2 said: Enh...the best player in that class reclassed and chose IU. People get too wrapped up in this stuff. We all thought the tide had turned when Romeo committed and we all thought the Oladipo/Sheehey class was mediocre. It is somewhat fun to speculate on where kids go and I would definitely argue that you need higher ranked players more often than not to make noise, but it's one guy. Also, on Painter, he is Tom Crean without the spotlight. He is up and down like a roller coaster and he has done some weird kind of things...the main difference is that he is at Purdue and the majority of people just don't care what they are doing. "But, but Indiana has not faired well the past 10 to 15 years..." I agree, and the coach of Indiana takes grief about that from all over while Painter, with similar results, is a "good coach". Ok, whatever...he would have been run out of Bloomington on a rail with his results. Miller has been "enh" so far IMO, but I am not going to freak or get all concerned about Painter. "Enh" Archie Miller has still landed more Indiana talent with his "enh" record than Painter has since Miller got here. The recruits are not a big concern right now, that will take care of itself. What we see Miller do with the actual players is what matters. Defintly true because utside of Purdue fans nobody nationally put to much stoock in Purdue as a program You don't see national media having stories about them if they go a few years of not making the tournament. We have seen many stories about what has happenned to IU basketball so that shows we are still relevant. Most national media has said that college basketball is better when teams like IU or UCLA are good but never see that about prdue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnet550 Posted October 30, 2020 Report Share Posted October 30, 2020 4 minutes ago, IUCrazy2 said: Enh...the best player in that class reclassed and chose IU. People get too wrapped up in this stuff. We all thought the tide had turned when Romeo committed and we all thought the Oladipo/Sheehey class was mediocre. It is somewhat fun to speculate on where kids go and I would definitely argue that you need higher ranked players more often than not to make noise, but it's one guy. Also, on Painter, he is Tom Crean without the spotlight. He is up and down like a roller coaster and he has done some weird kind of things...the main difference is that he is at Purdue and the majority of people just don't care what they are doing. "But, but Indiana has not faired well the past 10 to 15 years..." I agree, and the coach of Indiana takes grief about that from all over while Painter, with similar results, is a "good coach". Ok, whatever...he would have been run out of Bloomington on a rail with his results. Miller has been "enh" so far IMO, but I am not going to freak or get all concerned about Painter. "Enh" Archie Miller has still landed more Indiana talent with his "enh" record than Painter has since Miller got here. The recruits are not a big concern right now, that will take care of itself. What we see Miller do with the actual players is what matters. I think it’s time for Archie to give the “I’m sick and bleeping tired of losing to Purdue.....you’ll think last night was a gosh darn picnic” something like that lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUCrazy2 Posted October 30, 2020 Report Share Posted October 30, 2020 5 minutes ago, Bustout said: He’s much better coach than Crean If you say so. They are both pretty freaking mediocre in my book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted October 30, 2020 Report Share Posted October 30, 2020 4 minutes ago, Bustout said: He’s much better coach than Crean Crean has went to the final four but Painter hasn't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted October 30, 2020 Report Share Posted October 30, 2020 Stlboiler what did I say that wasn't correct and Archie has went as far int the tournament than Painter has done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stlboiler23 Posted October 30, 2020 Report Share Posted October 30, 2020 9 minutes ago, IUCrazy2 said: Enh...the best player in that class reclassed and chose IU. People get too wrapped up in this stuff. We all thought the tide had turned when Romeo committed and we all thought the Oladipo/Sheehey class was mediocre. It is somewhat fun to speculate on where kids go and I would definitely argue that you need higher ranked players more often than not to make noise, but it's one guy. Also, on Painter, he is Tom Crean without the spotlight. He is up and down like a roller coaster and he has done some weird kind of things...the main difference is that he is at Purdue and the majority of people just don't care what they are doing. "But, but Indiana has not faired well the past 10 to 15 years..." I agree, and the coach of Indiana takes grief about that from all over while Painter, with similar results, is a "good coach". Ok, whatever...he would have been run out of Bloomington on a rail with his results. Miller has been "enh" so far IMO, but I am not going to freak or get all concerned about Painter. "Enh" Archie Miller has still landed more Indiana talent with his "enh" record than Painter has since Miller got here. The recruits are not a big concern right now, that will take care of itself. What we see Miller do with the actual players is what matters. Comparing Painter to Crean might be one of the strangest things I’ve seen in this thread. Don’t think it’s accurate to say Painter has been up and down like a roller coaster. Aside from a few seasons, he’s been pretty consistent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted October 30, 2020 Report Share Posted October 30, 2020 34 minutes ago, dgambill said: What’s our tournament resume look like in that time period?? Not much better...Painter is a good coach. He has a couple transition years here and clearly with what he has coming up...will be back competing for the B1G title. Yep. He's as strong as Bruce Weber. Superior coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted October 30, 2020 Report Share Posted October 30, 2020 Just now, IU Scott said: Stlboiler what did I say that wasn't correct I think he is laughing because he didn’t take IU to the final four that is for sure. In fact our best team in 30 years he couldn’t even get past the s16. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stlboiler23 Posted October 30, 2020 Report Share Posted October 30, 2020 1 minute ago, IU Scott said: Stlboiler what did I say that wasn't correct and Archie has went as far int the tournament than Painter has done. You’re correct I just thought it was funny. You can be a better coach than someone even if one has a F4 and the other doesn’t though. Flukes happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bustout Posted October 30, 2020 Report Share Posted October 30, 2020 5 minutes ago, IU Scott said: Crean has went to the final four but Painter hasn't So if you had to pick either to run your program, you’re taking Crean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted October 30, 2020 Report Share Posted October 30, 2020 36 minutes ago, Sea Turtle said: How about since 2015, when this class was in 7th grade? I don't even know how to respond on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted October 30, 2020 Report Share Posted October 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, dgambill said: I think he is laughing because he didn’t take IU to the final four that is for sure. In fact our best team in 30 years he couldn’t even get past the s16. Well it has been 40 years since Purdue has even went to the final 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted October 30, 2020 Report Share Posted October 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, Bustout said: So if you had to pick either to run your program, you’re taking Crean? I wouldn't hire either one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted October 30, 2020 Report Share Posted October 30, 2020 Just now, Seeking6 said: Yep. He's as strong as Bruce Weber. Superior coach. I didn’t say he was superior. I said he was a good coach. Honestly he has done a solid job considering the level of recruits that Purdue will allow him to get. He wins with less talent. He isn’t great but he is good. He understands his limitations there and yes Purdue runs in cycles. They don’t bring in a lot of NBA talent that leaves early....so they have classes that stay 4 years and with upper class man it pushes away young recruits because they don’t see playing time. So they build and get good then they drop off and it starts over. Purdue’s program won’t allow him to get OAD or 5* recruits. The fact we generally win recruiting battles is because of our prestige. Now we aren’t winning on the court or off it. Archie can turn that all around by winning...hope he does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted October 30, 2020 Report Share Posted October 30, 2020 4 minutes ago, Seeking6 said: I don't even know how to respond on this one. Meaning these kids are babies. Since they joined adolescences all they have seen is Purdue be the better basketball school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWatShot Posted October 30, 2020 Report Share Posted October 30, 2020 27 minutes ago, TheWatShot said: So, did anyone who isn't a Purdue fan hear this? I find it odd that the 3 people who reported this are from West Lafayette, Plymouth, and Wisconsin and that any of them just happened to be listening to a radio station based out of Jeffersonville High School when this occurred. Quoting this because I don't want it to get lost in a silly Crean vs. Painter debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted October 30, 2020 Report Share Posted October 30, 2020 1 minute ago, dgambill said: Meaning these kids are babies. Since they joined adolescences all they have seen is Purdue be the better basketball school. If all that matters is winning to recruits you wouldn't see eventaul #1 picks teams like LSU and Washington. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bustout Posted October 30, 2020 Report Share Posted October 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, IU Scott said: I wouldn't hire either one Ha. Me neither. But given the choice, I’d take Painter. I appreciate what CTC did for IU and bringing the program back, but Painter seems like a much better coach IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted October 30, 2020 Report Share Posted October 30, 2020 Just now, Bustout said: Ha. Me neither. But given the choice, I’d take Painter. I appreciate what CTC did for IU and bringing the program back, but Painter seems like a much better coach IMO. remember he has lost early in the tournament as well to trams like Arkansas Little Rock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stlboiler23 Posted October 30, 2020 Report Share Posted October 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, IU Scott said: remember he has lost early in the tournament as well to trams like Arkansas Little Rock What coach hasn’t had bad tournament losses? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bustout Posted October 30, 2020 Report Share Posted October 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, Stlboiler23 said: What coach hasn’t had bad tournament losses? Even RMK had some duds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted October 30, 2020 Report Share Posted October 30, 2020 Since Crean is not here any longer and don't care about him I am not going to keep on with this discussion. All I care ao but right now is this year and the years moving forward. I like the young players and think guys like Gallowy, Leal and Duncomb will end up being very good 4 year college players. Also with the new rule this year letting players have another year could help in the future. Also if kid scan transfer without sitting out I think Iu will have plenty of players to choose from the next couple of years. I could see RP using his 5th year and he would be a very good PG in his fifth year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OGIUAndy Posted October 30, 2020 Report Share Posted October 30, 2020 44 minutes ago, Stlboiler23 said: Substantial? It was only 2 down years. You know a recruiting thread has gone downhill when boiler is posting as much as anyone else. Good luck Trey...NOT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierhoopster Posted October 30, 2020 Report Share Posted October 30, 2020 6 minutes ago, OGIUAndy said: You know a recruiting thread has gone downhill when boiler is posting as much as anyone else. Good luck Trey...NOT. Irony. There’s a guy named Bustout posting and touting Painter in this thread. I keep busting out laughing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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