dgambill Posted October 30, 2020 Report Share Posted October 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, IU Scott said: Nickel and Reed are in the 22 class so they hav enothing to do with Trey Uh if we don’t land a forward this class then they sure do. Trying to get offers in early on 22 kids and build up that report because we will have a hole in the roster. It’s not one to one comparison but you can see the urgency from Archie. I think he is scrambling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted October 30, 2020 Report Share Posted October 30, 2020 5 minutes ago, IU Scott said: Sounds like you are a closet purdue fan Fan of how they play hard and they win the past several years...sure...I’m jealous. I’m tired of losing to them. Yeah over 3500 posts and I just figured out this isn’t the Purdue board. Honestly I can give credit where due. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted October 30, 2020 Report Share Posted October 30, 2020 1 minute ago, Brass Cannon said: Or just freaking tired of losing to Purdue in every facet of basketball I hate Purdue as much as anyone but couldn't care less what we have done in the past. If Purdue cared about that they would have fired Painter since he lost to Davis a lot early on. If we win the big ten and do better in the tournament we could lose to Purdue every time and I wouldn't care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierfan1901 Posted October 30, 2020 Report Share Posted October 30, 2020 2021 is winding down, if TK does go to Purdue, there would be no one in the Top 10 Indiana rankings going to IU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted October 30, 2020 Report Share Posted October 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, dgambill said: Uh if we don’t land a forward this class then they sure do. Trying to get offers in early on 22 kids and build up that report because we will have a hole in the roster. It’s not one to one comparison but you can see the urgency from Archie. I think he is scrambling. I am saying that we did not just offer them when we thought we were not going to get Trey. Archie would have offered them even if trey comes to IU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stlboiler23 Posted October 30, 2020 Report Share Posted October 30, 2020 15 minutes ago, goonaha said: And yet they lost. They had a good run with the Edwards/Swanigan core, but before then they had a substantial down period after the Hummel/Moore teams. They haven't been this consistent power under Painter they're made out to be. Substantial? It was only 2 down years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiveoutofsix Posted October 30, 2020 Report Share Posted October 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, dgambill said: Uh if we don’t land a forward this class then they sure do. Trying to get offers in early on 22 kids and build up that report because we will have a hole in the roster. It’s not one to one comparison but you can see the urgency from Archie. I think he is scrambling. Im not on the defend everything bandwagon, I promise. But, don't think he is scrambling. He just hired a top notch recruiter with new connections. Different offers will come out of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted October 30, 2020 Report Share Posted October 30, 2020 Just now, Hoosierfan1901 said: 2021 is winding down, if TK does go to Purdue, there would be no one in the Top 10 Indiana rankings going to IU Lander originally in the 21 class so that is not totally true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
go_iu_bb Posted October 30, 2020 Report Share Posted October 30, 2020 1 minute ago, Fiveoutofsix said: See, that's were I have a different perspective. IU's offense to me is not ugly. Its a hybrid between pro and motion. There really has not been a healthy point guard and shooters. It will look much different this year based on the roster. Sure, there are reasons and excuses but the fact remains that pretty much every game the team would go though long droughts. Often multiple droughts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted October 30, 2020 Report Share Posted October 30, 2020 1 minute ago, Hoosierfan1901 said: 2021 is winding down, if TK does go to Purdue, there would be no one in the Top 10 Indiana rankings going to IU Yep...and we let the next Damon Bailey slip away! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brass Cannon Posted October 30, 2020 Report Share Posted October 30, 2020 4 minutes ago, IU Scott said: I hate Purdue as much as anyone but couldn't care less what we have done in the past. If Purdue cared about that they would have fired Painter since he lost to Davis a lot early on. If we win the big ten and do better in the tournament we could lose to Purdue every time and I wouldn't care. Well if we start doing those things sure. But we haven’t yet. Painter and Davis overlapped exactly one year btw so you can stop saying he lost a lot to Davis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted October 30, 2020 Report Share Posted October 30, 2020 1 minute ago, go_iu_bb said: Sure, there are reasons and excuses but the fact remains that pretty much every game the team would go though long droughts. Often multiple droughts. I thought our offense got guys good open shots but we just did not shoot well at times. We have went from 16 to 19 to 20+ wins and our offense and defensive rating has also went up every year. To me I see the program on an up swing and it will keep going that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierfan1901 Posted October 30, 2020 Report Share Posted October 30, 2020 Another twist! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted October 30, 2020 Report Share Posted October 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, dgambill said: Yep...and we let the next Damon Bailey slip away! I hope you are joking with this comparison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goonaha Posted October 30, 2020 Report Share Posted October 30, 2020 1 minute ago, Stlboiler23 said: Substantial? It was only 2 down years. True, maybe not as substantial as 3k posts on your rival's board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted October 30, 2020 Report Share Posted October 30, 2020 1 minute ago, IU Scott said: I am saying that we did not just offer them when we thought we were not going to get Trey. Archie would have offered them even if trey comes to IU. I’m not sure. I’m mostly still talking about the weird Hopkins recruitment. I mean if we had Trey locked up or even Miller for that matter we would have no room for the kid. These aren’t too 50 kids in 2022. They are kids that project similar range to Kaufman and Miller with almost identical skill sets. A combo 3-4 that can step away from the basket. To me it’s a bit early to be giving out scholarships to that level of player if you already have the equivalent set to be on your roster...could be wrong but it’s a red light to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stlboiler23 Posted October 30, 2020 Report Share Posted October 30, 2020 1 minute ago, goonaha said: True, maybe not as substantial as 3k posts on your rival's board. I’ve been on this board for years through multiple variations of the site. I always enjoy back and forth with this board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted October 30, 2020 Report Share Posted October 30, 2020 1 minute ago, IU Scott said: I hope you are joking with this comparison It’s a joke....we can still do that here right! Sorry I meant to put lol...my bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sea Turtle Posted October 30, 2020 Report Share Posted October 30, 2020 13 minutes ago, dgambill said: What’s our tournament resume look like in that time period?? Not much better...Painter is a good coach. He has a couple transition years here and clearly with what he has coming up...will be back competing for the B1G title. In the last 5 years, the time period that is most important, Purdue has gone to the NCAA 5 times. Three of those times to the sweet 16 and once to the Elite 8. Indiana has not been to the NCAA tourney in the last 4 years. It's not even close. Winning matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWatShot Posted October 30, 2020 Report Share Posted October 30, 2020 So, did anyone who isn't a Purdue fan hear this? I find it odd that the 3 people who reported this are from West Lafayette, Plymouth, and Wisconsin and that any of them just happened to be listening to a radio station based out of Jeffersonville High School when this occurred. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goonaha Posted October 30, 2020 Report Share Posted October 30, 2020 Just now, Stlboiler23 said: I’ve been on this board for years through multiple variations of the site. I always enjoy back and forth with this board. I find it to be odd behavior. But regardless, I was including the two 13 loss seasons/early exits in that down period. They stand out compared to the single digit loss years where you all were in Big Ten contention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goonaha Posted October 30, 2020 Report Share Posted October 30, 2020 1 minute ago, Sea Turtle said: In the last 5 years, the time period that is most important, Purdue has gone to the NCAA 5 times. Three of those times to the sweet 16 and once to the Elite 8. Indiana has not been to the NCAA tourney in the last 4 years. It's not even close. Winning matters. Considering they weren't going to the NCAAs last year, not sure how this can possibly be correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted October 30, 2020 Report Share Posted October 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, Sea Turtle said: In the last 5 years, the time period that is most important, Purdue has gone to the NCAA 5 times. Three of those times to the sweet 16 and once to the Elite 8. Indiana has not been to the NCAA tourney in the last 4 years. It's not even close. Winning matters. We would have made it last year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted October 30, 2020 Report Share Posted October 30, 2020 I would have loved to been on the message boards the first few years of Coach K, Bennett, Wright and Belien's first few years at their perspective schools. Not saying archie will be them but fans just are not willing to wait to see how things play out before freaking out on a coach and his tenure at a school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUCrazy2 Posted October 30, 2020 Report Share Posted October 30, 2020 6 minutes ago, Hoosierfan1901 said: 2021 is winding down, if TK does go to Purdue, there would be no one in the Top 10 Indiana rankings going to IU Enh...the best player in that class reclassed and chose IU. People get too wrapped up in this stuff. We all thought the tide had turned when Romeo committed and we all thought the Oladipo/Sheehey class was mediocre. It is somewhat fun to speculate on where kids go and I would definitely argue that you need higher ranked players more often than not to make noise, but it's one guy. Also, on Painter, he is Tom Crean without the spotlight. He is up and down like a roller coaster and he has done some weird kind of things...the main difference is that he is at Purdue and the majority of people just don't care what they are doing. "But, but Indiana has not faired well the past 10 to 15 years..." I agree, and the coach of Indiana takes grief about that from all over while Painter, with similar results, is a "good coach". Ok, whatever...he would have been run out of Bloomington on a rail with his results. Miller has been "enh" so far IMO, but I am not going to freak or get all concerned about Painter. "Enh" Archie Miller has still landed more Indiana talent with his "enh" record than Painter has since Miller got here. The recruits are not a big concern right now, that will take care of itself. What we see Miller do with the actual players is what matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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