Trey Kaufman Commits to Purdue

[5fouls 14,389]

8 minutes ago, dgambill said:

Jacobi is an elite competitor. He may not have the same physical gifts but that kid has all the mental and heart a D1 player needs. Best player on the floor many times when I watched games on video. Was hoping he would go to ISU or another state school.

Yeah.  I was rooting for Indiana State as well, but they are pretty full at his position.  I was also holding out hope that Butler may offer.  But, he should have a chance to succeed right away at Toledo.  Don't be surprised if you see him on the MAC all-conference team by the time he is a junior.

His game against Fort Wayne Blackhawk last season was a masterpiece.

 

[BGleas 8,759]

2 hours ago, Muddy River said:

As I mentioned, I would expect Archie to start downplaying the possibility to minimize the shock factor and our insiders would have been backing down on their confidence levels as opposed to holding steady or increasing them.

Edit:  I'll add that if Archie did already know, and kept it quiet, then all of the insiders here and elsewhere were completely off base.  I just don't believe that to be true.

I think you're overrating how much thought Archie puts into any "insiders" and how they get information. It's not like Archie is secretly disseminating all of this info to get messages to HSN, BTB's and other message boards. Most likely he couldn't care less. 

It's not like Archie feels the Kauffman recruitment is going south so he thinks to start leaking info to make sure the message board and twitter fans can mentally prepare for it. 

I don't mean this as disrespectful to anyone and I love our "insiders" and that they post here, but I think the information that gets shared here is overvalued in terms of what's really happening. Again, I really don't mean this  negatively, I love those guys that post here. But just harkening back to my days with the Celtics, part of my job was to monitor the early days of blogs, fan forums, etc., and we would literally laugh out loud in the office at the stuff "insiders" were sharing as if it was real. 

[FritzIam4IU 726]

28 minutes ago, BGleas said:

I think you're overrating how much thought Archie puts into any "insiders" and how they get information. It's not like Archie is secretly disseminating all of this info to get messages to HSN, BTB's and other message boards. Most likely he couldn't care less. 

It's not like Archie feels the Kauffman recruitment is going south so he thinks to start leaking info to make sure the message board and twitter fans can mentally prepare for it. 

I don't mean this as disrespectful to anyone and I love our "insiders" and that they post here, but I think the information that gets shared here is overvalued in terms of what's really happening. Again, I really don't mean this  negatively, I love those guys that post here. But just harkening back to my days with the Celtics, part of my job was to monitor the early days of blogs, fan forums, etc., and we would literally laugh out loud in the office at the stuff "insiders" were sharing as if it was real. 

@BGleasdon't go spouting rational statements and solid insight into this...

[NotIThatLives 2,231]

5 hours ago, Indykev said:

He couldn't let anyone go at the time due to the APR or whatever the grade thing is called. Crean had so much turnover, not only did he leave the talent bare, Crean also left the next coach with little to no room to make changes. Then you have IU's transfer rules that are like no other, its hard for a coach to bring in players. With the new NCAA transfer rule starting, i hope IU changes their rules or we are screwed there to.

In hind sight it didn't matter because they couldn't make the tournament with those guys and that culture.  Should have cut bait and reset.  Oh well.  The ship has turned.  

[Indykev 4,948]

28 minutes ago, NotIThatLives said:

In hind sight it didn't matter because they couldn't make the tournament with those guys and that culture.  Should have cut bait and reset.  Oh well.  The ship has turned.  

I'm sure the APR part of Archie's contract also played a part.

[IUCrazy2 1,925]

4 hours ago, 5fouls said:

When he talked to IU on Wednesday or Thursday, how do you know he wasn't letting Archie of his decision?  Why assume the worst? 

He might have...although I kind of assume that some of the inside info our people get is actually coming from people in the program.  I think if he would have told them it was over, that Peegs, Rabjohns, and a host of others including Story, IU0708, and that Chris guy from Btown Banners probably would have started to hear rumblings that we were out of it before the radio station stuff dropped.

Who knows.  However, it is my firm belief that the IU fanbase is what drives these types of announcements in this state.  I have seen on a few occasions recently where I feel the kids in effect kind of used the IU hype machine to build up their announcement.  I stand by the fact that if this was down to UVA and PU, the radio announcement would probably not have happened because nobody in that area of the state gives a rat's hind end about either program.  It is similar to the Garland thing, they were just honest about it after the fact.

Wesley up north won't have some big thing around him either because nobody in this state cares about Notre Dame basketball.

Edited October 31, 2020 by IUCrazy2

[IU Scott 9,728]

7 minutes ago, IUCrazy2 said:

He might have...although I kind of assume that some of the inside info our people get is actually coming from people in the program.  I think if he would have told them it was over, that Peegs, Rabjohns, and a host of others including Story, IU0708, and that Chris guy from Btown Banners probably would have started to hear rumblings that we were out of it before the radio station stuff dropped.

Who knows.  However, it is my firm belief that the IU fanbase is what drives these types of announcements in this state.  I have seen on a few occasions recently where I feel the kids in effect kind of used the IU hype machine to build up their announcement.  I stand by the fact that if this was down to UVA and PU, the radio announcement would probably not have happened because nobody in that area of the state gives a rat's hind end about either program.  It is similar to the Garland thing, they were just honest about it after the fact.

Wesley up north won't have some big thing around him either because nobody in this state cares about Notre Dame basketball.

I am sorry but what the Indiana kids do with their announcements are not even close to what kid sin the South does for football.  Also you see the top player sin the ocuntry announcing on national tV so what Kaufmann did was pretty weak compared to most.

[iucane 40]

3 hours ago, IU Scott said:

Then a few few days later Mile said the winds were blowing towards Bloomington

Miles was just parroting the Purdue insider with winds blowing towards WL..then when CoachSS and Chris from BtownBanners reaffirmed feelings for IU Miles quickly shifted the wind direction back towards Bloomington...he didn't have "info" just was passing along info he was reading/hearing from other boards/posters.

[Rogermci 172]

Can we move this thread somewhere else? Commentary becoming redundant as we analyze it to death.  Unproductive at this point and not worth it for a guy who obviously didn't want to play for IU.

[IUFLA 8,944]

38 minutes ago, iucane said:

Miles was just parroting the Purdue insider with winds blowing towards WL..then when CoachSS and Chris from BtownBanners reaffirmed feelings for IU Miles quickly shifted the wind direction back towards Bloomington...he didn't have "info" just was passing along info he was reading/hearing from other boards/posters.

@milehiiu said it was from his source...I'll take him at his word...

And I think everyone on this board relaxed a bit when they saw posts saying "IU" from both of those sources...I know I did

[milehiiu 9,549]

1 minute ago, IUFLA said:

@milehiiu said it was from his source...I'll take him at his word...

And I think everyone on this board relaxed a bit when they saw posts saying "IU" from both of those sources...I know I did

That's the problem with swirling winds.  You never know which direction they are going... nor where they will be when they stop swirling 

[kyhoosier29 840]

9 minutes ago, milehiiu said:

That's the problem with swirling winds.  You never know which direction they are going... nor where they will be when they stop swirling 

I think it’s safe to say at this point that nobody really has much inside info. Brooks and Kaufman were both solidly IU’s according to the insiders until the day before when the real info started to leak. No offense to anybody.

Edited October 31, 2020 by kyhoosier29

[Hoosierhoopster 6,526]

32 minutes ago, kyhoosier29 said:

I think it’s safe to say at this point that nobody really has much inside info. Brooks and Kaufman were both solidly IU’s according to the insiders until the day before when the real info started to leak. No offense to anybody.

A couple guys have legit info as they have tied close to the program. One shared a text for example. That remains private. It can also be revealing in the way a kid or his family handle the recruitment and what they say. I’m being deliberately vague here. 

[IU Scott 9,728]

8 minutes ago, Hoosierhoopster said:

A couple guys have legit info as they have tied close to the program. One shared a text for example. That remains private. It can also be revealing in the way a kid or his family handle the recruitment and what they say. I’m being deliberately vague here. 

To me some of the comments that came from Trey made me realize he wasn't coming to IU.  The first one about not being able to make everyone happy with your decision.  The other saying how Pudue probably is best fir for him.

[iucane 40]

31 minutes ago, Hoosierhoopster said:

A couple guys have legit info as they have tied close to the program. One shared a text for example. That remains private. It can also be revealing in the way a kid or his family handle the recruitment and what they say. I’m being deliberately vague here. 

Don’t disagree. A couple have “ties” to the program.  Thus when program “feels” good they think IU.  Need sources close to family/kid to be much more than an educated guess absent the kid having already committed to the coach/team (ie TJD)

[dgambill 5,548]

1 hour ago, IU Scott said:

To me some of the comments that came from Trey made me realize he wasn't coming to IU.  The first one about not being able to make everyone happy with your decision.  The other saying how Pudue probably is best fir for him.

Yep when a kid says he loves the fit for him...or how a team would use him....LISTEN. They all say they have good visits, coaches are great, etc etc....nobody burns bridges. But when a kid lights up when talking about how he will be used and loves the offense or fit or how they put guys like him in the NBA that’s when your ears should perk up.

[IUCrazy2 1,925]

3 hours ago, IU Scott said:

I am sorry but what the Indiana kids do with their announcements are not even close to what kid sin the South does for football.  Also you see the top player sin the ocuntry announcing on national tV so what Kaufmann did was pretty weak compared to most.

Yep, and it is just as lame on their end too.  I agree what Kaufman did was weak sauce. Taping your commitment the night before and letting it slip is amateur hour...a.k.a. Purdue.

[Ozerd 13]

Don't we have a waste bin for this thread?

[dgambill 5,548]

49 minutes ago, Ozerd said:

Don't we have a waste bin for this thread?

It will get flushed soon enough. Archie just needs to get back on the trail and offer some kids so we can start some new threads.

[iuvol 8]

Bummer

 

[hoosier_exotics 996]

Did Kaufman's relative delete their post from early this morning??  

[NY hoosier 64]

Looks that way

[Seeking6 8,820]

36 minutes ago, hoosier_exotics said:

Did Kaufman's relative delete their post from early this morning??  

I missed what did they say?

[hoosier_exotics 996]

12 minutes ago, Seeking6 said:

I missed what did they say?

Just complaining about the forums judging Trey on HIS decision.  

Something about IU fans being different than they used to be...

I woke up early and just glanced at the post,  then went back to sleep. 

[5fouls 14,389]

14 hours ago, IUCrazy2 said:

Yep, and it is just as lame on their end too.  I agree what Kaufman did was weak sauce. Taping your commitment the night before and letting it slip is amateur hour...a.k.a. Purdue.

That's BS.  If it had leaked that he was going to IU and chose IU, you would be puffing your chest out like a peacock about it.  It seems to me you are the one that has an issue.  Silly to get this upset about what a 17 year old kid does or does not do.  This is the type of stuff kids see that makes them not want to come to Indiana.