dgambill Posted May 27, 2020 Report Share Posted May 27, 2020 As for the simple comparison between the two Treys...Patterson I think is a little more finished product. I think he has a little more maturity to his physique and his game is further along. Guy can play both wings and pf. I think he was more a fast riser nationally (likely do to be more advanced size wise and fundamentally sound) as a younger player. That said I don’t think he has a lot more room to move up the ranks. He can come in right away and make an impact but I don’t see a huge jump in his game coming along...just refinement. Would be a great get and some needed physicality. Kaufman is one that like Wesley would be fast rising on the national scene this summer. Really starting to figure it out with his game...getting stronger more explosive. I think he has more upside long term but may not have that immediate big impact as a freshman but can certainly play in our rotation (think Hunter and how he started to come on)....with great potential. Both play similar position wing/pf. Both would be an upgrade over what we got from that position with Smith because of their threat to shoot and dribble drive. I lean more to Kaufman right now because it would be another signal to Indiana kids staying home is the best choice and the new thing for the best players. Also his connection to players already on the team. I mean it’s quite a list Archie is putting together...but make no mistake..if we miss on Kaufman but somehow landed Patterson I’m not sure it would hurt us on the floor a great deal. Excited Archie has us in the hunt with these type of kids honestly...Crean did some great recruiting but was just more a modern power hitter. Home runs or swings and misses. Archie is certainly hitting with plenty of pop but is just racking up doubles and driving in runs by putting the ball in play more. He keeps doing that he will have his share of home runs and production when it is all said and done and I expect us to get to the top of the B1G and live at the top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoosierfan34 Posted May 27, 2020 Report Share Posted May 27, 2020 Good discussions. My thought on the recruiting of Indiana kids, I’m all for it............if it makes sense! Don’t get IN kids just to say you got IN kids. Guys like Galloway and Leal? Absolutely. I’ve coached against one and seen plenty of the other and they are solid Indiana HS players who can make an impact and are both 4 year players. But, we’ve seen examples of guys like Grant Gelon, who frankly wasn’t even the best player on his HS team. Those players don’t make sense. Plus, recruiting the right Indiana HS players keeps the relationships solid with Indiana HS coaches. The previous coaching staff was not on most HS coaches’ Xmas lists in our state. So, I’m not in the camp of ONLY getting Indiana kids, but the right ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moyeneeded Posted May 27, 2020 Report Share Posted May 27, 2020 4 hours ago, hoosierfan34 said: Good discussions. My thought on the recruiting of Indiana kids, I’m all for it............if it makes sense! Don’t get IN kids just to say you got IN kids. Guys like Galloway and Leal? Absolutely. I’ve coached against one and seen plenty of the other and they are solid Indiana HS players who can make an impact and are both 4 year players. But, we’ve seen examples of guys like Grant Gelon, who frankly wasn’t even the best player on his HS team. Those players don’t make sense. Plus, recruiting the right Indiana HS players keeps the relationships solid with Indiana HS coaches. The previous coaching staff was not on most HS coaches’ Xmas lists in our state. So, I’m not in the camp of ONLY getting Indiana kids, but the right ones. You wouldn't by chance be with a certain HS program in SouInd? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierdave Posted May 27, 2020 Report Share Posted May 27, 2020 Nothing really new but still good news! Also apparently the dead period for recruiting is being extended, which certainly won’t hurt! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muddy River Posted May 27, 2020 Report Share Posted May 27, 2020 On 5/23/2020 at 10:29 PM, Indykev said: He applied for the Dayton job. When we start winning someone will come calling and he is gone. Doesn't that make him a quitter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoosierfan34 Posted May 28, 2020 Report Share Posted May 28, 2020 3 hours ago, Moyeneeded said: You wouldn't by chance be with a certain HS program in SouInd? Connected to, yes. Not on staff, but coached the middle school for 7 or so years. Also coached against Leal in AAU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornHoosier Posted May 28, 2020 Report Share Posted May 28, 2020 4 hours ago, Hoosierdave said: Nothing really new but still good news! Also apparently the dead period for recruiting is being extended, which certainly won’t hurt! In Hoosier Nation We Pray that Trey Is BornHoosier!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goonaha Posted May 28, 2020 Report Share Posted May 28, 2020 11 hours ago, BornHoosier said: In Hoosier Nation We Pray that Trey Is BornHoosier!!! Wait, I'm confused. I thought if he didn't commit on the spot then he's not a "BornHoosier" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
labeck81 Posted May 28, 2020 Report Share Posted May 28, 2020 this thread is on a bender Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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dwtaylor1055 Posted May 28, 2020 Report Share Posted May 28, 2020 1 hour ago, labeck81 said: this thread is on a bender Jonathan Bender of the Pacers perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluegrassIU Posted May 28, 2020 Report Share Posted May 28, 2020 25 minutes ago, cybergates said: That's my covid home workout routine. I am getting jacked! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
labeck81 Posted May 28, 2020 Report Share Posted May 28, 2020 7 minutes ago, dwtaylor1055 said: Jonathan Bender of the Pacers perhaps? I'm a knicks fan but man that kid was a beast coming out of HS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted May 28, 2020 Report Share Posted May 28, 2020 4 minutes ago, labeck81 said: I'm a knicks fan but man that kid was a beast coming out of HS You lost a bet, I hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
labeck81 Posted May 28, 2020 Report Share Posted May 28, 2020 41 minutes ago, btownqb said: You lost a bet, I hope. Born and raised in NYC. Spent 4 years in Bloomington. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierhoopster Posted May 28, 2020 Report Share Posted May 28, 2020 1 hour ago, dwtaylor1055 said: Jonathan Bender of the Pacers perhaps? One of the great players whose game was taken away prematurely by his knees. Broke MJ's McD's game scoring record IIRC. Tremendously talented, would've made the P's so good. However, I remember reading somewhere that he did very well in business after retiring from the NBA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billingsley99 Posted May 28, 2020 Report Share Posted May 28, 2020 38 minutes ago, Hoosierhoopster said: One of the great players whose game was taken away prematurely by his knees. Broke MJ's McD's game scoring record IIRC. Tremendously talented, would've made the P's so good. However, I remember reading somewhere that he did very well in business after retiring from the NBA. Helping others with their bad knees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUProfessor Posted May 28, 2020 Report Share Posted May 28, 2020 Obviously the late-April/early-May window for a Kaufman commitment have passed. Is anyone hearing anything new about his potential timetable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milehiiu Posted May 28, 2020 Report Share Posted May 28, 2020 7 minutes ago, IUProfessor said: Obviously the late-April/early-May window for a Kaufman commitment have passed. Is anyone hearing anything new about his potential timetable? No time table. However, I am hearing recently that it is down to IU and Virginia now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DunkinDipo Posted May 28, 2020 Report Share Posted May 28, 2020 11 minutes ago, milehiiu said: No time table. However, I am hearing recently that it is down to IU and Virginia now. If this is the case then I really like our chances. I always thought that Louisville was our biggest competition. But with possible sanctions coming, it makes sense that they are no longer in serious consideration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoosierfan34 Posted May 28, 2020 Report Share Posted May 28, 2020 10 minutes ago, DunkinDipo said: If this is the case then I really like our chances. I always thought that Louisville was our biggest competition. But with possible sanctions coming, it makes sense that they are no longer in serious consideration. That, and if it really is b/w IU and Virginia, then IU sits in a good position because it’s much closer to home (obviously). And I stand by my long-held belief that he won’t go far from home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted May 28, 2020 Report Share Posted May 28, 2020 44 minutes ago, milehiiu said: No time table. However, I am hearing recently that it is down to IU and Virginia now. I think it was Corey Evans who thinks Kaufman will pick IU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierdave Posted May 28, 2020 Report Share Posted May 28, 2020 1 hour ago, milehiiu said: No time table. However, I am hearing recently that it is down to IU and Virginia now. Thanks for the update! I like our chances considering IU has been recruiting him far longer and have built a stronger relationship but it is a little bit worrisome having the newest school already in his top 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milehiiu Posted May 28, 2020 Report Share Posted May 28, 2020 44 minutes ago, Hoosierdave said: Thanks for the update! I like our chances considering IU has been recruiting him far longer and have built a stronger relationship but it is a little bit worrisome having the newest school already in his top 2. You are welcome. And thanks to you for being a Hoosier Sports Nation member ! i would just like to add. That. IU was on De'Ron Davis IU early on. Then late other schools came into the picture. Before he committed to IU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indykev Posted May 28, 2020 Report Share Posted May 28, 2020 22 hours ago, Muddy River said: Doesn't that make him a quitter? Not yet, still here. Wannabe quitter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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