CTrojan88 Posted May 12, 2019 Report Share Posted May 12, 2019 7 hours ago, IU Scott said: Dude Archie was considered by he national media as the top young coaching candidates in the country and was rated the top hire of the year when IU hired him. John Groce was the media’s shiny new toy when Illinois hired him....we see how that worked out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted May 12, 2019 Report Share Posted May 12, 2019 1 minute ago, CTrojan88 said: John Gross was the media’s shiny new toy when Illinois hired him....we see how that worked out. Who the Hell is John Gross? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTrojan88 Posted May 12, 2019 Report Share Posted May 12, 2019 4 minutes ago, rico said: Who the Hell is John Gross? Groce...can’t spell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted May 12, 2019 Report Share Posted May 12, 2019 2 hours ago, rico said: Who the Hell is John Gross? It's what we call this guy named John in my office who is hygienically challenged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bedford1432 Posted May 12, 2019 Report Share Posted May 12, 2019 1 hour ago, 5fouls said: Good recruiter under Matt's. Just not a good head coach. He was mattas main recruiter who got big recruits. Obviously though he was a bad coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madison22 Posted May 12, 2019 Report Share Posted May 12, 2019 9 hours ago, NotIThatLives said: Grab a grad transfer that is a willing defender and can stroke it. Easier said than done "Get a shooter? Why don't I strap on a shooter helmet and squeeze down into a shooter cannon and fire off into shooter land, where shooters grow on shooties?!” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted May 12, 2019 Report Share Posted May 12, 2019 10 hours ago, CTrojan88 said: John Groce was the media’s shiny new toy when Illinois hired him....we see how that worked out. Groce (to me at least) was always credited with being an up and coming assistant coach when in fact the only reason he ever got anywhere was because Mike Davis didn't recruit Conley and Oden as hard as he should have. If those 2 go to IU....Groce never gets out of the MAC world. Much to our benefit our friends to the West couldn't see that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zlinedavid Posted May 12, 2019 Report Share Posted May 12, 2019 6 hours ago, Madison22 said: "Get a shooter? Why don't I strap on a shooter helmet and squeeze down into a shooter cannon and fire off into shooter land, where shooters grow on shooties?!” I've got a craving for milk steak now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bedford1432 Posted May 12, 2019 Report Share Posted May 12, 2019 2 hours ago, Seeking6 said: Groce (to me at least) was always credited with being an up and coming assistant coach when in fact the only reason he ever got anywhere was because Mike Davis didn't recruit Conley and Oden as hard as he should have. If those 2 go to IU....Groce never gets out of the MAC world. Much to our benefit our friends to the West couldn't see that. I think davis did recruit them. I recall oden visiting but Conley was not interested. I think conleys dad was a piece of work also Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted May 12, 2019 Report Share Posted May 12, 2019 15 minutes ago, Bedford1432 said: I think davis did recruit them. I recall oden visiting but Conley was not interested. I think conleys dad was a piece of work also Guess I should have qualified my post more. Yes...Davis recruited them but not as hard as he should have. Conley Sr and his agent ways drove this bus straight to Columbus. Somehow Groce was credited with this recruitment for Matta when in fact it was Mike Davis' thinking he didn't have to do much to recruit them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbmhoosier Posted May 12, 2019 Report Share Posted May 12, 2019 51 minutes ago, Seeking6 said: Guess I should have qualified my post more. Yes...Davis recruited them but not as hard as he should have. Conley Sr and his agent ways drove this bus straight to Columbus. Somehow Groce was credited with this recruitment for Matta when in fact it was Mike Davis' thinking he didn't have to do much to recruit them. There was also that supposed letter that Davis addressed to Sherron Collins stating that IU was not really recruiting Conley but was only pretending to do so as they wanted Oden. That letter was mailed to the Conleys by mistake. Oops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bedford1432 Posted May 12, 2019 Report Share Posted May 12, 2019 2 hours ago, dbmhoosier said: There was also that supposed letter that Davis addressed to Sherron Collins stating that IU was not really recruiting Conley but was only pretending to do so as they wanted Oden. That letter was mailed to the Conleys by mistake. Oops. Lol wow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowhunter Posted May 12, 2019 Report Share Posted May 12, 2019 Not very good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted May 12, 2019 Report Share Posted May 12, 2019 Maybe we need a "recruiting reflections" thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted May 12, 2019 Report Share Posted May 12, 2019 21 hours ago, FKIM01 said: IMO, he's losing the lunatic fringe at most. Archie knows defense and defense wins championships. He'll get there before rational fans give up. I'd bet on it. The post is basing everything he reads on rivals and think that is what represents the whole fan base. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbmhoosier Posted May 12, 2019 Report Share Posted May 12, 2019 31 minutes ago, Bedford1432 said: Lol wow Yeah that was right up there with Crean clogging up the Irvings toilet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierhoopster Posted May 12, 2019 Report Share Posted May 12, 2019 13 minutes ago, dbmhoosier said: Yeah that was right up there with Crean clogging up the Irvings toilet. Right, all these silly, inane fictitious rumors started and spread by people who think they can get people to buy into such crap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbmhoosier Posted May 12, 2019 Report Share Posted May 12, 2019 25 minutes ago, Hoosierhoopster said: Right, all these silly, inane fictitious rumors started and spread by people who think they can get people to buy into such crap Davis sending the letter intended for Conley to Sherron Collins was confirmed by Jason Whitlock. Not sure if Crean really clogged the toilet but some have said it happened. "Davis' recruitment of Indianapolis' Greg Oden -- known as the 7-foot LeBron James -- was nearly comical in its execution. Oden, an Ohio State commit, was part of a package deal. He was going to commit to the same school as his point guard teammate, Mike Conley. And Mike Conley was going to commit to the school his father, Mike Conley Sr., felt most comfortable with. Conley Sr., the Olympic triple jumper, coached the boys in AAU basketball. For Davis, the recruitment of Oden should've been simple: Offer Conley Sr. a job on the Indiana coaching staff. Oden is that good. Oden, Conley Jr. and Conley Sr. form a better package than Danny and Ed Manning. If Conley Sr. didn't want a job, at least convince the father that his son is a critical piece to IU's future. Instead, Davis was initially lukewarm about recruiting Conley Jr. Davis targeted Chicago point guard Sherron Collins (a Kansas commit), and someone on Davis' staff even managed to send mail intended for Collins to the Conley household. Indiana never made it on Conley Jr.'s list of schools. Oden listed Indiana as a possibility, as a courtesy. Davis had no shot. He never developed a meaningful relationship with Conley Sr." http://www.espn.com/espn/page2/story?page=whitlock/060216 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted May 12, 2019 Report Share Posted May 12, 2019 3 hours ago, rico said: Maybe we need a "recruiting reflections" thread? Or how about a spite filled we told you so on recruits who chose schools other than IU. Haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted May 12, 2019 Report Share Posted May 12, 2019 2 hours ago, dbmhoosier said: Davis sending the letter intended for Conley to Sherron Collins was confirmed by Jason Whitlock. Not sure if Crean really clogged the toilet but some have said it happened. "Davis' recruitment of Indianapolis' Greg Oden -- known as the 7-foot LeBron James -- was nearly comical in its execution. Oden, an Ohio State commit, was part of a package deal. He was going to commit to the same school as his point guard teammate, Mike Conley. And Mike Conley was going to commit to the school his father, Mike Conley Sr., felt most comfortable with. Conley Sr., the Olympic triple jumper, coached the boys in AAU basketball. For Davis, the recruitment of Oden should've been simple: Offer Conley Sr. a job on the Indiana coaching staff. Oden is that good. Oden, Conley Jr. and Conley Sr. form a better package than Danny and Ed Manning. If Conley Sr. didn't want a job, at least convince the father that his son is a critical piece to IU's future. Instead, Davis was initially lukewarm about recruiting Conley Jr. Davis targeted Chicago point guard Sherron Collins (a Kansas commit), and someone on Davis' staff even managed to send mail intended for Collins to the Conley household. Indiana never made it on Conley Jr.'s list of schools. Oden listed Indiana as a possibility, as a courtesy. Davis had no shot. He never developed a meaningful relationship with Conley Sr." http://www.espn.com/espn/page2/story?page=whitlock/060216 The Crean thing did not happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FKIM01 Posted May 12, 2019 Report Share Posted May 12, 2019 1 minute ago, BGleas said: The Crean thing did not happen. Rabjohns apparently doesn't believe it either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbmhoosier Posted May 12, 2019 Report Share Posted May 12, 2019 46 minutes ago, BGleas said: The Crean thing did not happen. What about McCleod bad mouthing IU and essentially telling Kyrie to go to Duke? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted May 12, 2019 Report Share Posted May 12, 2019 When it comes to recruiting, the things in the past mean nothing to me. Time to move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted May 12, 2019 Report Share Posted May 12, 2019 33 minutes ago, dbmhoosier said: What about McCleod bad mouthing IU and essentially telling Kyrie to go to Duke? Accurate, but we can stop with the clogging the toilet thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierhoopster Posted May 12, 2019 Report Share Posted May 12, 2019 3 hours ago, dbmhoosier said: Davis sending the letter intended for Conley to Sherron Collins was confirmed by Jason Whitlock. Not sure if Crean really clogged the toilet but some have said it happened. "Davis' recruitment of Indianapolis' Greg Oden -- known as the 7-foot LeBron James -- was nearly comical in its execution. Oden, an Ohio State commit, was part of a package deal. He was going to commit to the same school as his point guard teammate, Mike Conley. And Mike Conley was going to commit to the school his father, Mike Conley Sr., felt most comfortable with. Conley Sr., the Olympic triple jumper, coached the boys in AAU basketball. For Davis, the recruitment of Oden should've been simple: Offer Conley Sr. a job on the Indiana coaching staff. Oden is that good. Oden, Conley Jr. and Conley Sr. form a better package than Danny and Ed Manning. If Conley Sr. didn't want a job, at least convince the father that his son is a critical piece to IU's future. Instead, Davis was initially lukewarm about recruiting Conley Jr. Davis targeted Chicago point guard Sherron Collins (a Kansas commit), and someone on Davis' staff even managed to send mail intended for Collins to the Conley household. Indiana never made it on Conley Jr.'s list of schools. Oden listed Indiana as a possibility, as a courtesy. Davis had no shot. He never developed a meaningful relationship with Conley Sr." http://www.espn.com/espn/page2/story?page=whitlock/060216 Let me put it to rest for you, the idiotic, childish story of Crean clogging the toilet is complete BS. You’re better than that, don’t bring that trash here. Davis’s recruiting failures are obvious, he didn’t and couldn’t recruit IN. He was elevated to HC because the guys on.the team, including specifically Fife, said they’d quit the team if IU didn’t hire him after the RMK termination. But it’s not IU’s normal way to hire guys to bring in a player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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