Reacher Posted May 13, 2019 Report Share Posted May 13, 2019 4 hours ago, BGleas said: Immediate thoughts were... 1) Any recruits we can steal if they ask out of their LOI My first thought as well. I believe they were mentioned with some names we were considering as well. Regardless of who they get, I have to think it will slow down that program. New coach / system will have some growing pains. An opportunity for IU to move up the ladder! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billingsley99 Posted May 13, 2019 Report Share Posted May 13, 2019 Hopefully @Feathery will get us some insight into this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Officer Obie Posted May 13, 2019 Report Share Posted May 13, 2019 4 hours ago, NotIThatLives said: Tired of recruiting? Tired of winning... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbmhoosier Posted May 13, 2019 Report Share Posted May 13, 2019 They should hire Marshall. He's essentially a 10 year younger version of Beilein. I wouldn't be surprised if he was the hire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bedford1432 Posted May 13, 2019 Report Share Posted May 13, 2019 39 minutes ago, Danomatic said: It’s too late in the game for many big names to take the job, but hey, I guess anything is possible. True. Sounds lik he had enough of the current cesspool known as college basketball. I good guy leaves and scumbabs like Wade stay. Beilein had "become increasingly frustrated with the nature of college basketball recruiting and the retention of top players." Let's take those one by one. The FBI investigation that uncovered just how prevalent cheating had become underlined the challenges a by-the-book recruiter like Beilein faced annually. Trust me when I tell you, he won't miss that part of the sport at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierhoopster Posted May 13, 2019 Report Share Posted May 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, Bedford1432 said: True. Sounds lik he had enough of the current cesspool known as college basketball. I good guy leaves and scumbabs like Wade stay. Beilein had "become increasingly frustrated with the nature of college basketball recruiting and the retention of top players." Let's take those one by one. The FBI investigation that uncovered just how prevalent cheating had become underlined the challenges a by-the-book recruiter like Beilein faced annually. Trust me when I tell you, he won't miss that part of the sport at all. IU coaches have the same frustrations. Will be interesting to see if Beilein is succesful with the Cavs. Starting at the bottom with room to grow / improve provides him with a good start -- as a first-time NBA coaching gig, that's not a bad choice at all. The pressure to succeed immediately won't be there, like it would for most other NBA teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobSaccamanno Posted May 13, 2019 Report Share Posted May 13, 2019 I have nothing against Cleveland. Before Lebron, it was a wasteland of a franchise. It might as well have been Siberia. But they've had the number one pick four times since Lebron came in the league (Lebron, Kyrie, Anthony Bennett, and Andrew Wiggins). That's a little ridiculous. I hope they don't get it again. I do like and respect Beilein, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billingsley99 Posted May 13, 2019 Report Share Posted May 13, 2019 14 minutes ago, BobSaccamanno said: I have nothing against Cleveland. Before Lebron, it was a wasteland of a franchise. It might as well have been Siberia. But they've had the number one pick four times since Lebron came in the league (Lebron, Kyrie, Anthony Bennett, and Andrew Wiggins). That's a little ridiculous. I hope they don't get it again. I do like and respect Beilein, though. The NBA so wants the Knicks to be good if I were a betting man they will have the 1st pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierhoopster Posted May 13, 2019 Report Share Posted May 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, BobSaccamanno said: I have nothing against Cleveland. Before Lebron, it was a wasteland of a franchise. It might as well have been Siberia. But they've had the number one pick four times since Lebron came in the league (Lebron, Kyrie, Anthony Bennett, and Andrew Wiggins). That's a little ridiculous. I hope they don't get it again. I do like and respect Beilein, though. The Bennett year of course was the pick in front of Vic, lol. Kyrie's of course gone and LeBron ran Wiggins out of town -- though for Love, who they still have. What they do with Love, trade or build around him will be interesting. Lots of room for upwards improvement.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zlinedavid Posted May 13, 2019 Report Share Posted May 13, 2019 7 minutes ago, Hoosierhoopster said: The Bennett year of course was the pick in front of Vic, lol. Kyrie's of course gone and LeBron ran Wiggins out of town -- though for Love, who they still have. What they do with Love, trade or build around him will be interesting. Lots of room for upwards improvement.... They only passed on Vic, Otto Porter, Cody, CJ McCollum, Giannis...... I think Bennett's nickname is "Darko" now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierhoopster Posted May 13, 2019 Report Share Posted May 13, 2019 Worth noting that it took Beilein a while over his coaching career spanning the 4 DI teams he coached, Canisius, Richmond, WVU, UM, until he was regularly coaching his teams into the NCAA tourney. Once in 5 years at Canisius Once in 6 seasons at Richmond. Twice in 5 seasons at WVU -- the first his third year in. Then a good roll at UM, the first his second season, missed again the third, and then picked it up. Everyone thinks Beilein is an excellent coach, he is, and became an excellent recruiter. Another snapshot as grounds for patience, with CAM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
addictedtoIU Posted May 13, 2019 Report Share Posted May 13, 2019 8 minutes ago, Hoosierhoopster said: The Bennett year of course was the pick in front of Vic, lol. Kyrie's of course gone and LeBron ran Wiggins out of town -- though for Love, who they still have. What they do with Love, trade or build around him will be interesting. Lots of room for upwards improvement.... Kevin Love can be quite an intriguing one in Beilein's system. Maybe Cavs boosts his number this season (mainly PPG and outside shooting) and trades him next year to acquire future assets. Usually a team needs an alpha male to build around; Kevin Love didn't strike me as one of those guys. Plus he may have a few years left before showing decline. Just my 2 cents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierhoopster Posted May 13, 2019 Report Share Posted May 13, 2019 Just now, addictedtoIU said: Kevin Love can be quite an intriguing one in Beilein's system. Maybe Cavs boosts his number this season (mainly PPG and outside shooting) and trades him next year to acquire future assets. Usually a team needs an alpha male to build around; Kevin Love didn't strike me as one of those guys. Plus he may have a few years left before showing decline. Just my 2 cents. Agree, and he's injury prone. Love is a very good and in many ways underrated player, but he's not a centerpiece player, imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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FKIM01 Posted May 13, 2019 Report Share Posted May 13, 2019 They surely wouldn't take Lavalle Jordan?!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbmhoosier Posted May 13, 2019 Report Share Posted May 13, 2019 https://forum.umhoops.com/t/iffff-we-were-to-look-for-a-coach-who-would-be-realistic-targets/2298 Some UM fans want Archie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotIThatLives Posted May 13, 2019 Report Share Posted May 13, 2019 5 minutes ago, dbmhoosier said: https://forum.umhoops.com/t/iffff-we-were-to-look-for-a-coach-who-would-be-realistic-targets/2298 Some UM fans want Archie. lol, that was in 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbmhoosier Posted May 13, 2019 Report Share Posted May 13, 2019 1 minute ago, NotIThatLives said: lol, that was in 2017 Oops. Makes sense. I thought I was reading the Onion for a minute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapnRon Posted May 13, 2019 Report Share Posted May 13, 2019 We should NOT be 6th in facilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierhoopster Posted May 13, 2019 Report Share Posted May 13, 2019 26 minutes ago, Indykev said: The 'rankings' for IU in that chart are interesting and somewhat confusing -- #4 in recruiting base, #6 in facilities -- I would've thought those would be ranked better -- MD and Rutgers with the #1 and #2 recruiting base shows a favoratism for East Coast recruiting. Northwestern / Chicago at #3 is about where I would've thought -- as strongly as we feel about IN/region recruiting, the East Coast recruiting base is deep. Meanwhile IU has recruiting base at 4, but PU is 10? How are they defining recruiting base? And game atmosphere PU #1? Uh, well, alright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted May 13, 2019 Report Share Posted May 13, 2019 56 minutes ago, Billingsley99 said: The NBA so wants the Knicks to be good if I were a betting man they will have the 1st pick Guarantee the Knicks or Lakers will get the #1 pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zlinedavid Posted May 13, 2019 Report Share Posted May 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Hoosierhoopster said: Everyone thinks Beilein is an excellent coach, he is, and became an excellent recruiter. Another snapshot as grounds for patience, with CAM. I'm not saying that either one is easy, but it's easier for a good coach to learn recruiting than it is for a good recruiter to learn how to coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted May 13, 2019 Report Share Posted May 13, 2019 40 minutes ago, IU Scott said: Guarantee the Knicks or Lakers will get the #1 pick I was thinking the same thing, only leaning more toward the Lakers. Adam Silver only THINKS he's the most powerful man in the NBA. Plus, the story of the aging warrior teaming with the young rookie to knock out the perennial juggernaut (Golden St) while restoring the Lakers to their rightful place is too tempting of as story line for them. And I think Silver is too afraid Dolan would ruin the kid before he ever got started to give it to the Knicks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zlinedavid Posted May 13, 2019 Report Share Posted May 13, 2019 50 minutes ago, IU Scott said: Guarantee the Knicks or Lakers will get the #1 pick 16% vs the field? I'd take those odds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted May 13, 2019 Report Share Posted May 13, 2019 4 minutes ago, Zlinedavid said: 16% vs the field? I'd take those odds. I am just saying that the NBA will make it happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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