BobSaccamanno Posted May 24, 2019 Report Share Posted May 24, 2019 20 hours ago, dbmhoosier said: It's amazing how little muscle definition he had for a Power 5 scholarship player. I wouldn't normally be so mean about it, but he absorbed a scholarship which makes it fair game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbmhoosier Posted May 24, 2019 Report Share Posted May 24, 2019 16 minutes ago, BobSaccamanno said: It's amazing how little muscle definition he had for a Power 5 scholarship player. I wouldn't normally be so mean about it, but he absorbed a scholarship which makes it fair game. That was probably the thing I disliked the most about him. It was very obvious that he didn't care and never spent a moment in the gym. If I was Archie I would've Creaned him the day I was hired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted May 24, 2019 Report Share Posted May 24, 2019 1 minute ago, dbmhoosier said: That was probably the thing I disliked the most about him. It was very obvious that he didn't care and never spent a moment in the gym. If I was Archie I would've Creaned him the day I was hired. If that was the case why didn’t we kick him off the team for not following the work out guidelines etc. You can’t just refuse to go to mandatory lifting and practice. Don’t get me wrong he may have put in the bare minimum but I know one IU coach who would have ran his @ss off until he voluntarily quit....or was our APR so low we had to keep him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jv1972iu Posted May 24, 2019 Report Share Posted May 24, 2019 12 minutes ago, dbmhoosier said: That was probably the thing I disliked the most about him. It was very obvious that he didn't care and never spent a moment in the gym. If I was Archie I would've Creaned him the day I was hired. So let's Crean him from this thread...whataya say? The guy was a total goof that I prefer not to see.....EVER!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brass Cannon Posted May 24, 2019 Report Share Posted May 24, 2019 2 hours ago, 5fouls said: If he reclassifies, but redshirts, he's still essentially 2020. Lander is 2021. Rob will still be here for his Senior season. That's a crowd at PG. None of those guys are going to want to be 3rd string. I know as a coach you have to seize opportunity, but I think signing a true point in '19 or '20 impacts the chances you have to get Lander. Archie from what I am told likes to play two points. Makes it easier to push the offense. That comes from a Dayton fan btw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jv1972iu Posted May 24, 2019 Report Share Posted May 24, 2019 15 minutes ago, dgambill said: If that was the case why didn’t we kick him off the team for not following the work out guidelines etc. You can’t just refuse to go to mandatory lifting and practice. Don’t get me wrong he may have put in the bare minimum but I know one IU coach who would have ran his @ss off until he voluntarily quit....or was our APR so low we had to keep him? Amen. This was an enormous bad joke. Crean at his worst...which was ugly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobSaccamanno Posted May 24, 2019 Report Share Posted May 24, 2019 One of the big things in recruiting that we, as fans, are in the dark about, is the kid's makeup. We don't get to know them and understand work ethic, mentality, character, etc. It's hard for us to know beyond what the press gives us. But, to really understand these factors, a coach would likely need to know a player for awhile, see some ups and downs, etc. Everybody has some downs, including MJ, Lebron, et al. But reacting to the negative can tell you alot about somebody's makeup. Here, Crean took a flyer on a 6'9 kid who he apparently saw shoot well. As fans, we saw low rebounding numbers and no significant offers. If Crean weren't desperate after some poor planning for contingencies, this never would have happened. Even then, if Crean had a chance to know him better, it never would have happened. Bringing this back to topic, this young man Hassan Diarra seems like quite the opposite, a kid with toughness and an edge. While we can't know that as fans directly, we can go off media reports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted May 25, 2019 Report Share Posted May 25, 2019 This kid reminds me with his build and relentless take it at you of a Mateen Cleeves. Not the alleged rapist but the bulldog pg he was before. Pair him with some shooters he could do quite well. My only issue with playing two pgs is I don’t like having two smaller guards on the floor together for defensive and rebounding purposes but I think this kid would hold his own. He isn’t going to get overpowered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbkl Posted June 16, 2019 Report Share Posted June 16, 2019 This recruitment is starting to become a battle between Archie Miller and Tom Crean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted June 16, 2019 Report Share Posted June 16, 2019 16 minutes ago, rbkl said: This recruitment is starting to become a battle between Archie Miller and Tom Crean. I can think of some posters that will have an epic meltdown if we lose this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotIThatLives Posted June 16, 2019 Report Share Posted June 16, 2019 It brings to mind the question. Recruit to system or just coach to system? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotIThatLives Posted June 16, 2019 Report Share Posted June 16, 2019 There is also a follow up question to this question. Let's see who asks it first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milehiiu Posted June 16, 2019 Report Share Posted June 16, 2019 1 hour ago, rbkl said: This recruitment is starting to become a battle between Archie Miller and Tom Crean. Thanks for the link. IMHO, the thing Miller has going is that he has played the position. Tom Crean did not play the game. However has put players into the NBA, both at Marquette and IU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowhunter Posted June 16, 2019 Report Share Posted June 16, 2019 I never thought we would battle Crean for recruits. Georgia and Indiana shouldn’t be in the same sentence when it comes to basketball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5 championships Posted June 16, 2019 Report Share Posted June 16, 2019 4 minutes ago, Bowhunter said: I never thought we would battle Crean for recruits. Georgia and Indiana shouldn’t be in the same sentence when it comes to basketball. Basically like Indiana battling Georgia for recruits in football like how is that even possible? Kinda sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macomb hoosier Posted June 16, 2019 Report Share Posted June 16, 2019 41 minutes ago, Bowhunter said: I never thought we would battle Crean for recruits. Georgia and Indiana shouldn’t be in the same sentence when it comes to basketball. Maybe, but Georgia is a sleeping giant. If someone were ever to lock down that state's b'ball talent, it would be a perennial top 5/top 10 team. (Un)fortunately, the Butts-Meer folk only speak one language (football). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milehiiu Posted June 16, 2019 Report Share Posted June 16, 2019 42 minutes ago, Bowhunter said: I never thought we would battle Crean for recruits. Georgia and Indiana shouldn’t be in the same sentence when it comes to basketball. However, there IS an IU connection. Though I was ready for a change. I can't root against Crean. For me, it is not Georgia vs IU. But a current IU coach vs a former IU HC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted June 17, 2019 Report Share Posted June 17, 2019 https://www.google.com/amp/s/hoosierstateofmind.com/2019/06/16/indiana-basketball-hassan-diarras-recruitment-heating/amp/ I like how he said that he wants to see the family atmosphere and the school and his number one priority is to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted June 17, 2019 Report Share Posted June 17, 2019 7 hours ago, Bowhunter said: I never thought we would battle Crean for recruits. Georgia and Indiana shouldn’t be in the same sentence when it comes to basketball. I hate to be the one that points this out, but you just put them in the same sentence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FKIM01 Posted June 17, 2019 Report Share Posted June 17, 2019 3 hours ago, 5fouls said: I hate to be the one that points this out, but you just put them in the same sentence. Some schools shouldn't be in the same sentence as Indiana University. Georgia is one of those schools. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FKIM01 Posted June 17, 2019 Report Share Posted June 17, 2019 At this point, this is a "meh" recruit. I hope IU does better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted June 17, 2019 Report Share Posted June 17, 2019 8 hours ago, FKIM01 said: Some schools shouldn't be in the same sentence as Indiana University. Georgia is one of those schools. Why is that because they are in one of the top conferences and is the state university tat produces a lot of top recruits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
addictedtoIU Posted June 17, 2019 Report Share Posted June 17, 2019 On 5/24/2019 at 2:08 PM, BobSaccamanno said: It's amazing how little muscle definition he had for a Power 5 scholarship player. I wouldn't normally be so mean about it, but he absorbed a scholarship which makes it fair game. Looks like he had enough muscles for parties. He was a lucky kid; he came to IU at the right time for himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FKIM01 Posted June 17, 2019 Report Share Posted June 17, 2019 1 hour ago, IU Scott said: Why is that because they are in one of the top conferences and is the state university tat produces a lot of top recruits. It was just a grammatical correction to satisfy Fouls, not a rock-solid position of mine, but yes, I do feel like IU should be recognized as a far superior basketball program when compared to Georgia. Football, yes, is a different story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted June 17, 2019 Report Share Posted June 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, FKIM01 said: It was just a grammatical correction to satisfy Fouls, not a rock-solid position of mine, but yes, I do feel like IU should be recognized as a far superior basketball program when compared to Georgia. Football, yes, is a different story. College basketball has just changed so much over the last 30 years and to make that blanket statement now is probably not correct. To me the top of college basketball has dropped down more of the level of the middle and bottom tier teams so it is way more competitive now than it was back then. 30 years ago you would have never out UVA, Villanova or UW in our category as well but things changed and now they are top programs today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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