Indykev Posted May 28, 2019 Report Share Posted May 28, 2019 https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/college-basketball-rankings-kansas-loses-out-on-rj-hampton-and-drops-in-early-top-25-and-1/ Slow off season, something to talk about. 6 Big Ten teams, no IU in this poll. Are we going to see more of the same next season or is this a case of no respect, show me kind of thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotIThatLives Posted May 28, 2019 Report Share Posted May 28, 2019 Do you think this team should be top 25? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted May 28, 2019 Report Share Posted May 28, 2019 I am not going to fall for it again. IU does not deserve a preseason ranking. And, while there is a chance we make the tournment, I think we go through the whole season unranked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDB Posted May 28, 2019 Report Share Posted May 28, 2019 7 minutes ago, 5fouls said: I am not going to fall for it again. IU does not deserve a preseason ranking. And, while there is a chance we make the tournment, I think we go through the whole season unranked. This is what I'm thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADGERVOL Posted May 28, 2019 Report Share Posted May 28, 2019 21 minutes ago, 5fouls said: I am not going to fall for it again. IU does not deserve a preseason ranking. And, while there is a chance we make the tournment, I think we go through the whole season unranked. If someone forced me to guess I’d say we either get and stay ranked between 18-24 the entire season, finish 3-4 in the Big Ten, make tourney and win a game OR we are every bit as bad as last season and don’t even make the NIT. I don’t see any in between. I think we underachieved a lot last year and either we get back or stay put. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted May 28, 2019 Report Share Posted May 28, 2019 16 minutes ago, BADGERVOL said: If someone forced me to guess I’d say we either get and stay ranked between 18-24 the entire season, finish 3-4 in the Big Ten, make tourney and win a game OR we are every bit as bad as last season and don’t even make the NIT. I don’t see any in between. I think we underachieved a lot last year and either we get back or stay put. It's crazy. I'm still pretty stunned that IU wasn't able to add anyone of significance in the Spring, though I'm equally as stunned that nobody of significance transferred out. Half of me looks at this roster and sees our most reliable shot-maker is an unreliable Devonte Green, we have no reliable shooters returning, our only true wing is a RS Freshmen coming off a season long condition that kept him out all year, and we have no bigs that have proven they can hit a shot outside of 5ft. While it's the most experienced position, we're thin in the backcourt, and we're thin on the wing. It could be another rough, rough year. The other half wonders if maybe this is the team to overachieve and set the course for the foreseeable future of success. What if Phinisee makes 'the leap', Green is finally consistent as a senior and Durham continues to steadily improve? What if Hunter is the real deal and Damezi is able to slow down, get comfortable and be the shooter he was recruited to be? Brunk could potentially be an excellent leader, emotional player (finally some emotion on the court!) and lockerroom guy, De'Ron Davis will have his first healthy offseason as a Hoosier, and TJD might be the most under-hyped McDonald's All-American that IU has had in over 20 years. What if Justin Smith is able to clear his head and whatever was going on with him last season and realize the potential everyone thought he had? I really wish the roster had more sure things on it and not so many question marks, but if the question marks finally go IU's way and the guys buy-in, there is a competitive team there that can be dangerous, dangerous being relative, we simply don't have Final Four talent, but maybe top 4 in the Big Ten and a tournament team, which would be great progress to get recruiting back on track. I have no clue what to expect. I'm just going to go into it with low expectations and hope to be surprised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted May 28, 2019 Report Share Posted May 28, 2019 15 minutes ago, BADGERVOL said: If someone forced me to guess I’d say we either get and stay ranked between 18-24 the entire season, finish 3-4 in the Big Ten, make tourney and win a game OR we are every bit as bad as last season and don’t even make the NIT. I don’t see any in between. I think we underachieved a lot last year and either we get back or stay put. My concern is that we are in the 'new normal era' of IU hoops. I will still follow them with the same passion, but feel bad that my son may never get to experience the Championships that I did growing up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milehiiu Posted May 28, 2019 Report Share Posted May 28, 2019 Going out on a limb on this. Injury free. De'ron Davis will lead this team into the top 25, and onto the "Big Dance". De'Ron Davis Feb. 2, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feathery Posted May 28, 2019 Report Share Posted May 28, 2019 I’m more optimistic about this season than I was about last year. It’s college basketball, so there will always be projection of talent. I think we are a NCAA team. I have no problem not being ranked to start the year. The schedule is very favorable and I expect us to be ranked at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayward1 Posted May 28, 2019 Report Share Posted May 28, 2019 5 minutes ago, Feathery said: I’m more optimistic about this season than I was about last year. It’s college basketball, so there will always be projection of talent. I think we are a NCAA team. I have no problem not being ranked to start the year. The schedule is very favorable and I expect us to be ranked at some point. I completely agree. This team has the experience and the talent to be competitive next year. They just have to put it together and work well with each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feathery Posted May 28, 2019 Report Share Posted May 28, 2019 6 minutes ago, Wayward1 said: I completely agree. This team has the experience and the talent to be competitive next year. They just have to put it together and work well with each other. Exactly. Individually the biggest jump developmentally is typically between freshman and sophomore years. I’m not expecting Jordy Hulls type shooting, but I see 3-5 guys that can shoot above 35% from deep next year. That is enough for a tournament team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
addictedtoIU Posted May 28, 2019 Report Share Posted May 28, 2019 Not sure how good Big 10 will be but I'll be ecstatic if this team would make it to the big dance. For now, that's the ceiling for this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milehiiu Posted May 28, 2019 Report Share Posted May 28, 2019 The old saying. It's not how you start out the season. But rather how you finish. Expect KenPom ratings to be low at the season. And as we know his early season ratings are based on the previous season. Ken Pom exempted, because he does his rankings differently. But other BB "guru's are lazy. Not going out and really seeing what is going on, but rather basing their top 25 opinions on how the previous season ended. Just a few years ago, Nebraska got early season top 25 ratings, based on how they finished the previous season, only to all flat on their faces as Nebraska's season fell apart. And Heck, as I posted the other day.... a 39th ranked team beat the number one team , Kentucky, with the Whatshot. There is always a team that comes out of nowhere, each and every season. IMHO. You can take early season predictions. Copy them. And immediately put that copy, in the paper shredder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slojoe Posted May 28, 2019 Report Share Posted May 28, 2019 We're not ranked because we don't deserve it. We sucked two years ago, and this last season we under performed. Yes, there were injuries and medical problems, but that's the game. We lost our best two players who were much better than any one else on the team. We have a bunch of question marks, and our recruiting fizzled out after a good start. Who knows where we will get our scoring from on this team. We haven't fixed our main offensive problem which was a lack of shooters. It also remains to be seen whether we have fixed our main defensive problem which was guarding the post. CAM is going to have to coach his rear end off and hope he doesn't lose the team again this coming season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierhoopster Posted May 28, 2019 Report Share Posted May 28, 2019 1 hour ago, BGleas said: It's crazy. I'm still pretty stunned that IU wasn't able to add anyone of significance in the Spring, though I'm equally as stunned that nobody of significance transferred out. Half of me looks at this roster and sees our most reliable shot-maker is an unreliable Devonte Green, we have no reliable shooters returning, our only true wing is a RS Freshmen coming off a season long condition that kept him out all year, and we have no bigs that have proven they can hit a shot outside of 5ft. While it's the most experienced position, we're thin in the backcourt, and we're thin on the wing. It could be another rough, rough year. The other half wonders if maybe this is the team to overachieve and set the course for the foreseeable future of success. What if Phinisee makes 'the leap', Green is finally consistent as a senior and Durham continues to steadily improve? What if Hunter is the real deal and Damezi is able to slow down, get comfortable and be the shooter he was recruited to be? Brunk could potentially be an excellent leader, emotional player (finally some emotion on the court!) and lockerroom guy, De'Ron Davis will have his first healthy offseason as a Hoosier, and TJD might be the most under-hyped McDonald's All-American that IU has had in over 20 years. What if Justin Smith is able to clear his head and whatever was going on with him last season and realize the potential everyone thought he had? I really wish the roster had more sure things on it and not so many question marks, but if the question marks finally go IU's way and the guys buy-in, there is a competitive team there that can be dangerous, dangerous being relative, we simply don't have Final Four talent, but maybe top 4 in the Big Ten and a tournament team, which would be great progress to get recruiting back on track. I have no clue what to expect. I'm just going to go into it with low expectations and hope to be surprised. Great post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FKIM01 Posted May 28, 2019 Report Share Posted May 28, 2019 X2 @BGleas. I'm fine with seeing IU lay in the weeds and finally surprise to the upside. ...so overdue for pounding the ^%#!%$&!# Toiletmakers...sooooo overdue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steubenhoosier Posted May 28, 2019 Report Share Posted May 28, 2019 The optimism I have for the upcoming season centers on the fact that we now have kids who will be playing the pack line for their second and third years. I am a believer in the idea that defense will keep games close and that we will find enough shooting to win games that we could have won this past year. I hope these guys remain under the radar and play the season with a chip on their collective shoulders. Until I see otherwise, I believe that the slumbering giant has been poked and is starting to stir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bedford1432 Posted May 28, 2019 Report Share Posted May 28, 2019 3 hours ago, Indykev said: https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/college-basketball-rankings-kansas-loses-out-on-rj-hampton-and-drops-in-early-top-25-and-1/ Slow off season, something to talk about. 6 Big Ten teams, no IU in this poll. Are we going to see more of the same next season or is this a case of no respect, show me kind of thing? We were not ranked last season either and I did actually think we should have been. However, this is not a team that should be ranked in the top 25. They will need to prove they even belong in the top half of the big ten. We lost most of our scoring and there are a ton of quesition marks including whether Hunter can help or be healthy. We did not add any pieces this spring to upgrade our shooting or I would be expecting more next at this point. Honestly, it is probably best not too high expectation and be let down like last season but making the tournament would be a massive success at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FW_Hoosier Posted May 28, 2019 Report Share Posted May 28, 2019 If IU manages to win more than 20 games and make the tournament next season, I will feel much, much better about the direction of the program than I currently do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bedford1432 Posted May 28, 2019 Report Share Posted May 28, 2019 23 minutes ago, FW_Hoosier said: If IU manages to win more than 20 games and make the tournament next season, I will feel much, much better about the direction of the program than I currently do. I totally agree. At this point making the tourney needs to be the expectation though it is not going to be easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drroogh Posted May 28, 2019 Report Share Posted May 28, 2019 3 hours ago, BADGERVOL said: If someone forced me to guess I’d say we either get and stay ranked between 18-24 the entire season, finish 3-4 in the Big Ten, make tourney and win a game OR we are every bit as bad as last season and don’t even make the NIT. I don’t see any in between. I think we underachieved a lot last year and either we get back or stay put. I'm just as either or as you are. 57 minutes ago, Steubenhoosier said: The optimism I have for the upcoming season centers on the fact that we now have kids who will be playing the pack line for their second and third years. I am a believer in the idea that defense will keep games close and that we will find enough shooting to win games that we could have won this past year. I hope these guys remain under the radar and play the season with a chip on their collective shoulders. Until I see otherwise, I believe that the slumbering giant has been poked and is starting to stir. I totally agree about the defense being something to look forward to, but until we can show an effective outside game, IU's offense will experience an even more packed in defense! To me it all comes down to how well we shoot next year! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierhoopster Posted May 28, 2019 Report Share Posted May 28, 2019 I thought Gleas's post summed it up well. I'll sum it up in four words: I have no idea. There are a lot of ifs. If we get those frosh to soph jumps and Green settles in, and Davis is healthy, and the shooting improves along with the spacing developed from Davis and company up front, I can see IU moving up and getting ranked around the mid-point of the season. Expecting a ranking and tourney run, no. Possible, yes. Hopeful, absolutely. Really looking forward to seeing what kind of frosh to soph jump Rob makes, and how good Hunter can be. To me those are the two keys, everything else is important, but those are the keys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loviubb Posted May 28, 2019 Report Share Posted May 28, 2019 I am thinking our only loss next year will be in the 1st game of the Big 10 tourney😀. But probably not. I am going with an over 21 win total and safely in the tourney. I think the injuries were to much to overcome. The addition of Mr. Brunk is going to help what the inside game missed defensively last year with Juwan playing center. We will shoot better than last year because we can't shoot much worse. Some nice freshman coming in and everyone a year older and getting use to the new muscle mass will help the shooting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdhoosier Posted May 29, 2019 Report Share Posted May 29, 2019 I really have a feeling we will make the tournament and may spend a week or two in the top 25. That said, I’d only put a dollar on that bet. #optimism Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy06 Posted May 29, 2019 Report Share Posted May 29, 2019 I like reading some of the optimistic opinions on here, but right now I don't have high expectations for next year. I think we are much closer to a bubble team than a top 25 team. I am surprisingly more optimistic about the football season than the basketball season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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