5fouls Posted June 17, 2019 Report Share Posted June 17, 2019 19 minutes ago, Bedford1432 said: I think we need him. Based on what? What does he give us that someone already on the team does not? Weigh that against the probability that his number one priority is not IU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zlinedavid Posted June 17, 2019 Report Share Posted June 17, 2019 2 hours ago, Bedford1432 said: I think we need him. 1. There's need. 2. There's want. 3. There's would be nice to haves. 4. There's worth taking a gamble on. 5. And there's potenential detriments. Best case scenario, this kid is a 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bedford1432 Posted June 17, 2019 Report Share Posted June 17, 2019 3 hours ago, 5fouls said: Based on what? What does he give us that someone already on the team does not? Weigh that against the probability that his number one priority is not IU. Gives us depth with an 11 player roster in case three or four guys get injured again. He has some sick moves for a point guard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tru123dt Posted June 17, 2019 Report Share Posted June 17, 2019 4 hours ago, 5fouls said: Based on what? What does he give us that someone already on the team does not? Weigh that against the probability that his number one priority is not IU. A back up point would be nice.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted June 18, 2019 Report Share Posted June 18, 2019 We could really use a back up point guard. It would allow Green to play off the ball more instead of backing up the point when Rob sits his 12-15 mins a game. That said I don’t see this kid coming to play that backup position. He wants a OAD scenario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotIThatLives Posted June 18, 2019 Report Share Posted June 18, 2019 I'm confused. If this kid has oad, he starts from day one at the 1, 2 or 3. That's a fact. If anyone has goals of competing at the top of conference, this team didn't get the massive talent upgrade it needed. Basically we have no clue how to evaluate this kid. On one hand we call him the truth like Hanner Perea' s hype video. The other hand says he's a back up role player on the 10th best big ten team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FKIM01 Posted June 18, 2019 Report Share Posted June 18, 2019 47 minutes ago, CoachSS said: There hasn’t been a lot of belief he is that good from what some have said who have seen him or spoken with those who have seen/ coached him along the way. Anyone that says IU “needs” him is grasping at nothing, IMO. Strictly my own opinion. I share that opinion...don't really see him as a need at IU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotIThatLives Posted June 18, 2019 Report Share Posted June 18, 2019 4 hours ago, NotIThatLives said: I'm confused. If this kid has oad, he starts from day one at the 1, 2 or 3. That's a fact. If anyone has goals of competing at the top of conference, this team didn't get the massive talent upgrade it needed. Basically we have no clue how to evaluate this kid. On one hand we call him the truth like Hanner Perea' s hype video. The other hand says he's a back up role player on the 10th best big ten team. What's so confusing @OGIUAndy? Have you been reading this thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OGIUAndy Posted June 18, 2019 Report Share Posted June 18, 2019 42 minutes ago, NotIThatLives said: What's so confusing @OGIUAndy? Have you been reading this thread? "...The other hand says he's a back up role player on the 10th best big ten team". I assume you're talking about IU being the 10 best big ten team? That's confusing to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotIThatLives Posted June 18, 2019 Report Share Posted June 18, 2019 1 hour ago, OGIUAndy said: "...The other hand says he's a back up role player on the 10th best big ten team". I assume you're talking about IU being the 10 best big ten team? That's confusing to me. Somebody posted all the way too early rankings and on average we were about 10th so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted June 19, 2019 Report Share Posted June 19, 2019 7 hours ago, OGIUAndy said: "...The other hand says he's a back up role player on the 10th best big ten team". I assume you're talking about IU being the 10 best big ten team? That's confusing to me. We finished 9th last year. I hope we are better but it’s hard to say the roster has upgraded. Just have to hope this team comes together...but for outside people to say 10th...not surprising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted June 19, 2019 Report Share Posted June 19, 2019 8 hours ago, CoachSS said: Final note on this: - If he is a commodity, why is no one recruiting him heavily? - What belief is there from his past coaches he is good enough for high-major basketball? - Turning “Pro” in France and make $70,000-$80,000 isn’t that impressive. I am NOT knocking the kid but his name has come up so few times in private circles. There hasn’t been a lot of belief he is that good from what some have said who have seen him or spoken with those who have seen/ coached him along the way. Anyone that says IU “needs” him is grasping at nothing, IMO. Strictly my own opinion. No I get it. I think we all just see a need at the point...and would love to have a kid with some international experience and hopefully talented come in to help...the fact remains he likely is only coming to be OAD to get to NBA...in order to do that he would have to beat out Rob (not likely) and to come to back up which we need wouldn’t fit his goals so this is indeed a reach. He has had other schools interested like UCLA but I think those others have roster issues with new coaches and players leaving etc. the more I’ve looked at his words and our fit...I agree it just doesn’t mesh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5 championships Posted June 19, 2019 Report Share Posted June 19, 2019 Just saw on twitter he is still deciding between pro ball and college. Said IU for a visit might still happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotIThatLives Posted June 19, 2019 Report Share Posted June 19, 2019 7 hours ago, dgambill said: a kid with some international experience and hopefully talented come in to help...the fact remains he likely is only coming to be OAD to get to NBA... So if this kid is good enough to be oad to the actual NBA and not to the north Serbian snow cats, then you bring him in asap. Bit if what coachss is saying, he isn't good enough, all this oad talk is about him lookimg for a euro contract or something like Hulls and Sheeheys team. I'm going towards what coachss says. He's just not that amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FKIM01 Posted June 26, 2019 Report Share Posted June 26, 2019 1 minute ago, RoadToZion said: We offered him a scholarship today. I'm actually surprised by that. I hope I'm wrong about him if he accepts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwtaylor1055 Posted June 26, 2019 Report Share Posted June 26, 2019 12 minutes ago, RoadToZion said: We offered him a scholarship today. Hmmm interesting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DunkinDipo Posted June 26, 2019 Report Share Posted June 26, 2019 I hope Archie locks him up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parakeet Jones Posted June 26, 2019 Report Share Posted June 26, 2019 Has there been any kind of timeframe mentioned for when he will decide between college or pro and if college which one? Im not sure what to make of this guy. Staff must see someway he can contribute to offer. I’ll pull like heck for him if he comes here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierJax Posted June 26, 2019 Report Share Posted June 26, 2019 Hmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted June 26, 2019 Report Share Posted June 26, 2019 I will trust Archie that if he is offered he is good enough to play here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parakeet Jones Posted June 26, 2019 Report Share Posted June 26, 2019 IF he comes here, I hope he makes that decision soon so that he can be part of the summer program. I’d hate for him to show up in August and be behind the curve early on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybergates Posted June 26, 2019 Report Share Posted June 26, 2019 If he's a 6'5 PG that can shoot, that would be nice. Just wonder how much floor time he would get if he can't play D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madison22 Posted June 26, 2019 Report Share Posted June 26, 2019 neat training video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-tBI72U54E And his Twitter account, announcing the offer today: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parakeet Jones Posted June 26, 2019 Report Share Posted June 26, 2019 On 6/18/2019 at 1:22 PM, CoachSS said: Final note on this: - If he is a commodity, why is no one recruiting him heavily? - What belief is there from his past coaches he is good enough for high-major basketball? - Turning “Pro” in France and make $70,000-$80,000 isn’t that impressive. I am NOT knocking the kid but his name has come up so few times in private circles. There hasn’t been a lot of belief he is that good from what some have said who have seen him or spoken with those who have seen/ coached him along the way. Anyone that says IU “needs” him is grasping at nothing, IMO. Strictly my own opinion. 7 minutes ago, CoachSS said: Now... Now I'm interested. If, indeed he has an offer. What has changed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FW_Hoosier Posted June 26, 2019 Report Share Posted June 26, 2019 Gonna be a lot of backtracking in this thread if IU ends up signing him, lol. FWIW, my only “inside source” said he didn’t think the kid was good enough/was going to come to IU either about a month ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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