IU Scott Posted December 17, 2020 Report Share Posted December 17, 2020 Just now, PritchardPutBack said: There's a bunch of mock drafts all over the place but I know personally I really trust Givony over just about anyone. He used to run DraftExpress.com but came over to ESPN with Woj when that big move happened and really does his due diligence scouting international guys and talking to those in the know when it comes to the draft. Once again though, a whole bunch can change by the end of the season I hate it that today is more about potential than production and having Ayo ad the 35th prospects is ridiculous. He is one of the top players in college and take him over any of the freshman on UK or Duke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13th&Jackson Posted December 17, 2020 Report Share Posted December 17, 2020 13 minutes ago, PritchardPutBack said: I thought this was kind of a dumb question to start the year and he would be gone after this season for sure, but Jonathan Givony of ESPN released the very early 2021 best available for the draft a week or two ago and TJD is only 55th https://www.espn.com/nba/draft/bestavailable/_/position/ovr/page/3. Obviously it is way to early to find that as super reliable information and Thomas Bryant ended up leaving while only being a projected 2nd rounder at the end of the season, but you gotta think there's a chance he'd come back if he remains a second round guy Ziaire Williams 7 and Scottie Barnes 13? Not if I'm a GM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13th&Jackson Posted December 17, 2020 Report Share Posted December 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, IU Scott said: I hate it that today is more about potential than production and having Ayo ad the 35th prospects is ridiculous. He is one of the top players in college and take him over any of the freshman on UK or Duke. No doubt. He's a stone cold assassin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FKIM01 Posted December 17, 2020 Report Share Posted December 17, 2020 Link for Aminu watch: https://247sports.com/PlayerInstitution/Aminu-Mohammed-at-Greenwood-Laboratory-School-218522/CurrentExpertPredictions/ Not much in the way of predictions thus far... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FKIM01 Posted December 17, 2020 Report Share Posted December 17, 2020 11 minutes ago, 13th&Jackson said: Ziaire Williams 7 and Scottie Barnes 13? Not if I'm a GM. Admittedly, I haven't seen much college basketball thus far this year, but Scottie Barnes is the best pro prospect I've watched this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted December 17, 2020 Report Share Posted December 17, 2020 1 minute ago, FKIM01 said: Admittedly, I haven't seen much college basketball thus fat this year, but Scottie Barnes is the best pro prospect I've watched this year. Based on what because most of the game against us he wasn't a big factor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FKIM01 Posted December 17, 2020 Report Share Posted December 17, 2020 5 minutes ago, IU Scott said: Based on what because most of the game against us he wasn't a big factor I watched his next game against GT...he was an absolute killer. 6'9" scoring point guard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted December 17, 2020 Report Share Posted December 17, 2020 9 minutes ago, 13th&Jackson said: No doubt. He's a stone cold assassin. Is he? I watched Wayman Tisdale dominate CBB for 3 years. Sure fire NBA great, right? Hell, Sampson played for 4 and dominated like I have never seen. Sure fire NBA great, right? The list goes on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jv1972iu Posted December 17, 2020 Report Share Posted December 17, 2020 4 hours ago, jefftheref said: Is it for sure that TJD is leaving for the NBA? In my opinion he needs to develop the ability to go to his right, with his right hand and develop a perimeter game. He goes in with his current skill set and he will be eaten alive. Not sure what eaten alive means, but he's just got to make a roster, which he likely will. He just has to get hired and begin to learn the job of professional ball. He's not starting day one. JMHO. 😊 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluegrassIU Posted December 17, 2020 Report Share Posted December 17, 2020 5 minutes ago, jv1972iu said: Not sure what eaten alive means, ...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13th&Jackson Posted December 17, 2020 Report Share Posted December 17, 2020 8 minutes ago, rico said: Is he? I watched Wayman Tisdale dominate CBB for 3 years. Sure fire NBA great, right? Hell, Sampson played for 4 and dominated like I have never seen. Sure fire NBA great, right? The list goes on. True, but that wasn't really the premise. Scott was talking about Ayo ranked 35th behind a bunch of unproven freshmen. Not only does he have skills and athleticism to translate to the next level, but he's made so many clutch baskets in the last minute against B1G competition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted December 17, 2020 Report Share Posted December 17, 2020 1 minute ago, 13th&Jackson said: True, but that wasn't really the premise. Scott was talking about Ayo ranked 35th behind a bunch of unproven freshmen. Not only does he have skills and athleticism to translate to the next level, but he's made so many clutch baskets in the last minute against B1G competition. Taking bets now....who here thinks Ayo will be an all-star? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluegrassIU Posted December 17, 2020 Report Share Posted December 17, 2020 Just now, 13th&Jackson said: True, but that wasn't really the premise. Scott was talking about Ayo ranked 35th behind a bunch of unproven freshmen. Not only does he have skills and athleticism to translate to the next level, but he's made so many clutch baskets in the last minute against B1G competition. I hate Illinois. But Ayo is for real. I would take him on any team I have. No way I find 30 college players I draft before him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jv1972iu Posted December 17, 2020 Report Share Posted December 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, bluegrassIU said: Thanks for the visual. 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proud2BAHoosier Posted December 17, 2020 Report Share Posted December 17, 2020 1 hour ago, rico said: If you were in his position, what would you do? Think long and solid on that one. Fixed it for ya.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted December 17, 2020 Report Share Posted December 17, 2020 9 minutes ago, bluegrassIU said: I hate Illinois. But Ayo is for real. I would take him on any team I have. No way I find 30 college players I draft before him. Tell that to the NBA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OGIUAndy Posted December 17, 2020 Report Share Posted December 17, 2020 2 hours ago, Hoosierfan1901 said: If I was TJD, I wouldn’t declare since he still hasn’t developed an outside shot, though he has begun taking jumpers Most (not Blackmon or Bryant) declare based on where they are projected to be drafted, not based on their readiness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted December 17, 2020 Report Share Posted December 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, OGIUAndy said: Most (not Blackmon or Bryant) declare based on where they are projected to be drafted, not based on their readiness. Or their loyalty to the school...or whether they can handle money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluegrassIU Posted December 17, 2020 Report Share Posted December 17, 2020 8 minutes ago, rico said: Tell that to the NBA. Not arguing here rico. I simply feel there are not 35 guys in college today that will make a better pro than him. 🤦♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted December 17, 2020 Report Share Posted December 17, 2020 1 minute ago, bluegrassIU said: Not arguing here rico. I simply feel there are not 35 guys in college today that will make a better pro than him. 🤦♂️ Right now, yeah. Tisdale? Sampson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotIThatLives Posted December 17, 2020 Report Share Posted December 17, 2020 Just now, bluegrassIU said: Not arguing here rico. I simply feel there are not 35 guys in college today that will make a better pro than him. 🤦♂️ If Romeo got drafted at 13, I pray Ayo is available at 17 when the pacers take their annual customary pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted December 17, 2020 Report Share Posted December 17, 2020 6 minutes ago, NotIThatLives said: If Romeo got drafted at 13, I pray Ayo is available at 17 when the pacers take their annual customary pick. And Pacer fans wanted Steve Alford instead of Reggie Miller. One is the face of the Pacers, the other is a vagabond college coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluegrassIU Posted December 17, 2020 Report Share Posted December 17, 2020 1 minute ago, rico said: Right now, yeah. Tisdale? Sampson? Dude, we can throw out dozens of examples in either direction. That proves nothing. Plenty of proven winners in college were a bust in the NBA. Plenty of guys drafted on potential were a bust in the NBA. 5 years from now we will know if I am right or I am wrong. No biggie. I am just saying, if I were drafting there are not 35guys I pick before Ayo. Maybe I get fired, maybe I am GM of the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted December 17, 2020 Report Share Posted December 17, 2020 Just now, bluegrassIU said: Dude, we can throw out dozens of examples in either direction. That proves nothing. Plenty of proven winners in college were a bust in the NBA. Plenty of guys drafted on potential were a bust in the NBA. 5 years from now we will know if I am right or I am wrong. No biggie. I am just saying, if I were drafting there are not 35guys I pick before Ayo. Maybe I get fired, maybe I am GM of the year. Yeah it proves something, neither you nor I are an evaluator of NBA talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted December 17, 2020 Report Share Posted December 17, 2020 Haven't looked at the draft but I would bet a lot of teams regret not taking Draymond Green in the first round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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