HoosierJax Posted December 22, 2020 Report Share Posted December 22, 2020 3 minutes ago, Muddy River said: Like the one who threw a fit on the bench because he didn't think we was getting enough minutes? Yup...Cal gave im a leave of absence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muckraker Posted December 22, 2020 Report Share Posted December 22, 2020 1 hour ago, IU Scott said: Lets go get a big man in the transfer market and call it a class. That's my opinion, exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDB Posted December 22, 2020 Report Share Posted December 22, 2020 2 hours ago, IU Scott said: Lets go get a big man in the transfer market and call it a class. Lets hope the transfer market is kind to AM. However, is anyone the least bit concerned about striking out on the last three recruits, including TK as the prioritized recruit? That has to be somewhat concerning for even the over flowing glass fans out there. I understand that this is a different year with the Covid and all, but going back to the Tom Crean & Mike Davis eras, once the recruiting started to slide, it don't take long for the ship to sink. Again, I am not in the sky is falling mode. Just a bit concerning. Hopefully, this doesn't turn into a pissing match. Oops, forgot about PS. IU needs a big man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizard Posted December 22, 2020 Report Share Posted December 22, 2020 Would have loved to see Mohammed become a Hoosier. He's a DMV guy at heart so Georgetown is a good spot for him. I think he and his guardian kept it classy and didn't play any of the coaches. Is it OK if I am happy that Crean didn't get him? (and I don't dislike Crean) Good luck to the young man. What a tremendous opportunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted December 22, 2020 Report Share Posted December 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, BDB said: Lets hope the transfer market is kind to AM. However, is anyone the least bit concerned about striking out on the last three recruits, including TK as the prioritized recruit? That has to be somewhat concerning for even the over flowing glass fans out there. I understand that this is a different year with the Covid and all, but going back to the Tom Crean & Mike Davis eras, once the recruiting started to slide, it don't take long for the ship to sink. Again, I am not in the sky is falling mode. Just a bit concerning. Hopefully, this doesn't turn into a pissing match. A little...especially Kaufman...but it happens... I think this kid saw a crowded backcourt at IU next year, and that CAM makes you earn your playing time (see Lander) and just said, "no thanks." The fact that his final 2 were Georgetown and Georgia kinda tells me he wanted some guarantees about playing time... As for his choice, I sometimes wonder if these kids want to learn more about the NBA lifestyle from these coaches that are former NBA stars than learning the game itself...Ewing is in his 4th year and he's 52-50...not exactly distinguished... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sea Turtle Posted December 22, 2020 Report Share Posted December 22, 2020 No other way to spin it. This recruiting cycle was a disaster for CAM and the program. They are just going to have to live with the consequences. Can't happen again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyhoosier29 Posted December 22, 2020 Report Share Posted December 22, 2020 6 hours ago, ElectricBoogaloo said: Considering you can't prove a negative, we DO know with a high degree of certainty. This is an odd self-generated rumor even for message boards. Has anyone in the game even so much as insinuated that Crean has ever been dirty? I’m not contributing to or against the rumor because I don’t know either way. That’s my only point. I would be surprised but not shocked if facts came out saying you’re wrong. It’s college basketball, a dirty industry unfortunately. With that said, he was a really poor cheater if he was! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyhoosier29 Posted December 22, 2020 Report Share Posted December 22, 2020 12 minutes ago, Sea Turtle said: No other way to spin it. This recruiting cycle was a disaster for CAM and the program. They are just going to have to live with the consequences. Can't happen again. I think this is a silly take. We got a solidly rated, 4 star center coming and a shooter with D1 experience. A great class, of course not. But a disaster? Come on. But isn’t it so wonderful even if you believe in your take that it happened during this pandemic when every guy on the team gets an extra year? Basically our freshmen class for next year is Leal, Lander, Galloway, Geronimo, Duncomb and Stewart. You think that’s poor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted December 22, 2020 Report Share Posted December 22, 2020 37 minutes ago, Sea Turtle said: No other way to spin it. This recruiting cycle was a disaster for CAM and the program. They are just going to have to live with the consequences. Can't happen again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierhoopster Posted December 22, 2020 Report Share Posted December 22, 2020 1 hour ago, IUFLA said: First someone posts a clip of Blue, now you find one of Fouls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FKIM01 Posted December 22, 2020 Report Share Posted December 22, 2020 3 hours ago, Sea Turtle said: No other way to spin it. This recruiting cycle was a disaster for CAM and the program. They are just going to have to live with the consequences. Can't happen again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indykev Posted December 22, 2020 Report Share Posted December 22, 2020 10 hours ago, HoosierJax said: Maybe we could get a Kentucky transfer..i heard some are wanting out...or Cal is forcing them out..😂 Sooner or later it had to bite him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mchenry34 Posted December 22, 2020 Report Share Posted December 22, 2020 17 hours ago, ElectricBoogaloo said: Considering you can't prove a negative, we DO know with a high degree of certainty. This is an odd self-generated rumor even for message boards. Has anyone in the game even so much as insinuated that Crean has ever been dirty? Actually,yes. Two moments come to mind. Crean came up in the Adidas hearings as welcoming the help of the Adidas rep. The quote was that Crean welcomed him to campus with a hug, the rep said "don't worry, I am here to help" and Crean said he knew and thanked him for his help. Also, several years back when Gary Parrish did one of those articles asking coaches anonymously who they thought was a great coach, etc. One of the questions was "who is cheating in recruiting?" and Crean's name came up a lot. It was after the Movement class and the whole Indiana Elite recruiting connection. Then of course there is the fact that he had Kenny Johnson on his staff for several years... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy1987 Posted December 22, 2020 Report Share Posted December 22, 2020 11 hours ago, Sea Turtle said: No other way to spin it. This recruiting cycle was a disaster for CAM and the program. They are just going to have to live with the consequences. Can't happen again. Not a total disaster by any means but very disappointing nonetheless. CAM and the staff spent a lot of time, money and effort on 3 top targets and missed on all 3. That's not good no matter how you look at it. Go Hoosiers!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
addictedtoIU Posted December 22, 2020 Report Share Posted December 22, 2020 It's a bummer CAM was struck out on all big targets. For now, I don't see it as a threat; it just doesn't feel good. If Franklin continues to grow and play at a high level (although I expect he'd go through peaks and valleys just like everyone else), Mohammed will not be missed. But CAM can't have another recruiting class like this for 2022 if he wants to continue to develop and establish his program. Two bad recruiting classes in a row is a recipe for disaster. Even big time coaches don't always have good luck and occasionally have a bad recruiting class, so this situation is not out of the ordinary. Our team just needs to make it to the tournament this season and shares some spotlight with other good programs. One step at a time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted December 22, 2020 Report Share Posted December 22, 2020 A lot of questions I need answered before I write this year off... Will Al and Joey come back? Will they be welcomed back? Not sure whose choice that actually is, but I'd say there's going to be some negotiation between CAM and those 2...If CAM has playing time for them, maybe they would...or maybe they want to get on with their lives...Plenty of basketball opportunities with G league and international basketball to make a buck... What will the transfer market be like? I'd imagine it's going to be very busy...I'm sure if Joey or Al decide not to come back, there will be a lot of options...Frontcourt (4s and 5s), assuming TJD goes, should be the priority. If the roster stays the way it is we have Armaan, Rob, Trey, Anthony, Jerome, Parker, and Khristian for basically 3 spots...4 if we go small... Will TJD really go? I'd say odds favor it, but you never know... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobSaccamanno Posted December 22, 2020 Report Share Posted December 22, 2020 34 minutes ago, IUFLA said: A lot of questions I need answered before I write this year off... Will Al and Joey come back? Will they be welcomed back? Not sure whose choice that actually is, but I'd say there's going to be some negotiation between CAM and those 2...If CAM has playing time for them, maybe they would...or maybe they want to get on with their lives...Plenty of basketball opportunities with G league and international basketball to make a buck... What will the transfer market be like? I'd imagine it's going to be very busy...I'm sure if Joey or Al decide not to come back, there will be a lot of options...Frontcourt (4s and 5s), assuming TJD goes, should be the priority. If the roster stays the way it is we have Armaan, Rob, Trey, Anthony, Jerome, Parker, and Khristian for basically 3 spots...4 if we go small... Will TJD really go? I'd say odds favor it, but you never know... If I had to guess, Al might very well be gone. I think he can probably play overseas. Might as well get paid and move on. He’s had four years of heavy playing time and might feel like he had the experience he wanted. Brunk has the injury complication. He doesn’t seem to be interested in pro ball as we’ve heard he is thinking law school. If he’s healthy, maybe he tries for one more year. But he might not want to delay law school. I could see that going either way, and possibly hinging on his back. Probably most men over 40 have dealt with a mysterious back ailment at one point or another and they can be brutal. He might want to get on with being a lawyer. Personally, I would give up a year of my law career to have a chance to play B1G ball but the grass is often greener on the other side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted December 22, 2020 Report Share Posted December 22, 2020 6 minutes ago, BobSaccamanno said: If I had to guess, Al might very well be gone. I think he can probably play overseas. Might as well get paid and move on. He’s had four years of heavy playing time and might feel like he had the experience he wanted. Brunk has the injury complication. He doesn’t seem to be interested in pro ball as we’ve heard he is thinking law school. If he’s healthy, maybe he tries for one more year. But he might not want to delay law school. I could see that going either way, and possibly hinging on his back. Probably most men over 40 have dealt with a mysterious back ailment at one point or another and they can be brutal. He might want to get on with being a lawyer. Personally, I would give up a year of my law career to have a chance to play B1G ball but the grass is often greener on the other side. I think that's the scenario I would like to see...hats off to Al for a good 4 years, but I think Stewart is probably a better option, at least on offense. If Joey can come in, mentor Logan a bit, and rotate with Race and Logan in the front court, that would be nice. I'd still like us to pick up another 4-5...unless Trayce comes back... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted December 22, 2020 Report Share Posted December 22, 2020 I have finished reading on Aminu. Hope Ewing teaches him about the good strip clubs once he gets to the NBA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jefftheref Posted December 22, 2020 Report Share Posted December 22, 2020 6 minutes ago, rico said: I have finished reading on Aminu. Hope Ewing teaches him about the good strip clubs once he gets to the NBA. The ship has sailed. In my opinion he isn't worth the time of day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FritzIam4IU Posted December 22, 2020 Report Share Posted December 22, 2020 1 hour ago, IUFLA said: A lot of questions I need answered before I write this year off... Will Al and Joey come back? Will they be welcomed back? Not sure whose choice that actually is, but I'd say there's going to be some negotiation between CAM and those 2...If CAM has playing time for them, maybe they would...or maybe they want to get on with their lives...Plenty of basketball opportunities with G league and international basketball to make a buck... What will the transfer market be like? I'd imagine it's going to be very busy...I'm sure if Joey or Al decide not to come back, there will be a lot of options...Frontcourt (4s and 5s), assuming TJD goes, should be the priority. If the roster stays the way it is we have Armaan, Rob, Trey, Anthony, Jerome, Parker, and Khristian for basically 3 spots...4 if we go small... Will TJD really go? I'd say odds favor it, but you never know... I think TJD will be key to next season. If he stays for third year I think Hoosiers will be very good...if he goes, it might come down to if IU can pickup a good big transfer. I'm guessing 60/40 TJD goes pro, but who knows. For some reason I can't see Al coming back next season but I could see Joey, but of course I'm just going off my gut feeling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted December 22, 2020 Report Share Posted December 22, 2020 3 minutes ago, FritzIam4IU said: I think TJD will be key to next season. If he stays for third year I think Hoosiers will be very good...if he goes, it might come down to if IU can pickup a good big transfer. I'm guessing 60/40 TJD goes pro, but who knows. For some reason I can't see Al coming back next season but I could see Joey, but of course I'm just going off my gut feeling. I think if he did come back, we could contend for the B1G title and make a deep tourney run... Stay and be a legend, Trayce! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sea Turtle Posted December 22, 2020 Report Share Posted December 22, 2020 13 hours ago, FKIM01 said: Hindenburg bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FKIM01 Posted December 22, 2020 Report Share Posted December 22, 2020 17 minutes ago, Sea Turtle said: Hindenburg bad. I was trying to be kind. What was Hindenburg bad was the nonsense you posted to begin with. You should see that by the various reactions you got...mostly laughter. Pick up the bong and take a deep drag before you post next time...it can't hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sea Turtle Posted December 22, 2020 Report Share Posted December 22, 2020 2 hours ago, FKIM01 said: I was trying to be kind. What was Hindenburg bad was the nonsense you posted to begin with. You should see that by the various reactions you got...mostly laughter. Pick up the bong and take a deep drag before you post next time...it can't hurt. We literally whiffed on everyone but 1 player in a 4 man class. We couldn't give our schollys away. I get that everybody gets another year of eligibility if they want it. It's more of an indication of what recruits think of our program: dog poo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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