milehiiu Posted June 27, 2019 Report Share Posted June 27, 2019 24 minutes ago, 5fouls said: So, Danny says Ed learned bad practice habits from Alford, yet Dan promoted Steve for the IU job every chance he got. Good old Dan is quite the man of principle. Yep. Yep and Yep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B_A Posted June 27, 2019 Report Share Posted June 27, 2019 2 hours ago, milehiiu said: Suppose Dan Dakich is happy. Unlike Dan. I liked Ed. Personally, don't know what to make of this. But then again. Ed has always been a Rolling Stone Ed was a family friend. Been on a non-IU news vacation over the last 30 days after baseball season came to an end but with this news and Tom Allen and crew killing it on 2020 recruiting, it's time to re-engage. Appears I need to make some calls bc this has pulled me back in. Wishing Ed a step up and hoping he lands well on his feet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milehiiu Posted June 27, 2019 Report Share Posted June 27, 2019 4 minutes ago, B_A said: Ed was a family friend. Been on a non-IU news vacation over the last 30 days after baseball season came to an end but with this news and Tom Allen and crew killing it on 2020 recruiting, it's time to re-engage. Appears I need to make some calls bc this has pulled me back in. Wishing Ed a step up and hoping he lands well on his feet. I am hearing from many people tonight. All consider Ed a friend. The more I learn. The more I am sorry that Ed is moving on. Thanks for sharing. No doubt. Unlike Dan Dakich who thinks other wise, Ed has made a positive impact in the state of Indiana. Welcome back from your non-IU vacation ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTrojan88 Posted June 27, 2019 Report Share Posted June 27, 2019 He’s probably going to Memphis....everyone seems to be headed there these days....oyyyy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brass Cannon Posted June 27, 2019 Report Share Posted June 27, 2019 The fact he couldn’t deliver on the recruiting trail, our poor guard development and the fact UCLA wasn’t bummed to see Ed leave. I hope this works out for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Daily Hoosier Posted June 27, 2019 Report Share Posted June 27, 2019 Austin Van Zyl just tweeted out that he was actually offered the assistant coaching job. I think that clears everything up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OGIUAndy Posted June 27, 2019 Report Share Posted June 27, 2019 I hope we get some insider info on this development. This combined with the Austin Van Zyl saga have made for a weirder than usual 24 hours. Personally, I've always thought assistant coaches were overrated, but the timing of this is definitely odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted June 27, 2019 Report Share Posted June 27, 2019 3 minutes ago, OGIUAndy said: I hope we get some insider info on this development. This combined with the Austin Van Zyl saga, have made for a weirder than usual 24 hours. Personally, I've always thought assistant coaches were overrated, but the timing of this is definitely odd. Hey. A day without drama is like a day without sunshine...now where did I put my beer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmax Posted June 27, 2019 Report Share Posted June 27, 2019 Anyone else ever notice that Ed never seemed to be very involved with Archie during the games? Always seemed like the odd man out on the bench with Tom and Bruiser in Archie’s ear and Ed talking to the players. Not sure if that’s normal or not-just an observation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted June 27, 2019 Report Share Posted June 27, 2019 12 minutes ago, madmax said: Anyone else ever notice that Ed never seemed to be very involved with Archie during the games? Always seemed like the odd man out on the bench with Tom and Bruiser in Archie’s ear and Ed talking to the players. Not sure if that’s normal or not-just an observation. Actually, yes I did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmax Posted June 27, 2019 Report Share Posted June 27, 2019 39 minutes ago, rico said: Actually, yes I did. Figured I wasn’t the only person who noticed it. Not sure how to properly articulate this, but it always sort of made me sad. Idk, maybe it just seemed like he was looked down on or his ideas weren’t valued. Or maybe it just never seemed like quite the fit I hoped it would be. I find that I always just generally want things to work out for people at IU. Always makes me sad to see players/coaches I’m sure I’m looking into it waaaaay too much, but still. Body language often tells far more then press conferences, at least if you’re paying attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbmhoosier Posted June 27, 2019 Report Share Posted June 27, 2019 I have no idea what happened here but I always hated the idea of having a former Cal disciple on the staff. When Brooks popped for UK I was immediately ready for Ed to get the boot. It just had the Kyrie Irving debacle written all over it again. I'd like to see Bruiser get canned as well. Ostrum is good though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted June 27, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 27, 2019 8 minutes ago, dbmhoosier said: I have no idea what happened here but I always hated the idea of having a former Cal disciple on the staff. When Brooks popped for UK I was immediately ready for Ed to get the boot. It just had the Kyrie Irving debacle written all over it again. I'd like to see Bruiser get canned as well. Ostrum is good though. To me the timing is just really odd. Whoever our next assistant is for this role. Are there any former coaches, players,etc...with very strong state ties who seems to be the next up and coming coach? I don't mind Archie hiring a guy to lure a recruit but I'd prefer the guy be able to deliver more than just 1 kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbmhoosier Posted June 27, 2019 Report Share Posted June 27, 2019 13 minutes ago, Seeking6 said: To me the timing is just really odd. Whoever our next assistant is for this role. Are there any former coaches, players,etc...with very strong state ties who seems to be the next up and coming coach? I don't mind Archie hiring a guy to lure a recruit but I'd prefer the guy be able to deliver more than just 1 kid. Archie could just hire Pat Knight and finally bury that hatchet once and for all. 😃 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feathery Posted June 27, 2019 Report Share Posted June 27, 2019 Ostrom and Schilling didn’t get along. Ostrom is the top recruiter and Archie’s guy. Schilling not holding up his side in recruiting leads to this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted June 27, 2019 Report Share Posted June 27, 2019 I don’t know Ed but sounds like a great guy personally. That said could be several things, recruiting failures...mismatch of ideas...even Ed wanting to be a head coach again. Just hope it isn’t something like a recruiting violation or something. Good luck Ed! Thanks for your hard work over the years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted June 27, 2019 Report Share Posted June 27, 2019 Wow this is not great timing because most coaching staffs are already set so it could be hard to get someone to come in this late in the process. Maybe it is time to bring in a former IU guy so we don't have to hear people complain about that all year LOL! also it wouldn't be a bad idea to bring someone who could be like an offensive coordinator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted June 27, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 27, 2019 10 minutes ago, Feathery said: Ostrom and Schilling didn’t get along. Ostrom is the top recruiter and Archie’s guy. Schilling not holding up his side in recruiting leads to this. Thanks for posting. Occam's razor usually applies. Ed is certainly beloved but if he wasn't getting it done. Time for a split. Just hope it's nothing else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotIThatLives Posted June 27, 2019 Report Share Posted June 27, 2019 I'm going to take a different stance. It's not even July. There is no problem with the timing of this. It isn't october- March. The program will survive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milehiiu Posted June 27, 2019 Report Share Posted June 27, 2019 From the way back machine : 3 Reasons Why Ed Schilling Will Be a Great Addition to Archie Miller's Staff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maedhros Posted June 27, 2019 Report Share Posted June 27, 2019 7 minutes ago, Seeking6 said: Thanks for posting. Occam's razor usually applies. Ed is certainly beloved but if he wasn't getting it done. Time for a split. Just hope it's nothing else. If he wasn't getting it done, wouldn't you release him in March, after the season ends? Jettisoning an assistant in June, in the middle of the summer evaluation periods, feels odd to me, as someone admittedly very much on the outside of that process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stlboiler23 Posted June 27, 2019 Report Share Posted June 27, 2019 Was he let go? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TargaFlorio Posted June 27, 2019 Report Share Posted June 27, 2019 7 hours ago, madmax said: Anyone else ever notice that Ed never seemed to be very involved with Archie during the games? Always seemed like the odd man out on the bench with Tom and Bruiser in Archie’s ear and Ed talking to the players. Not sure if that’s normal or not-just an observation. I was coming on here to post the same exact thing. Been watching this since Miller got here. There were very few in-game interactions between Miller and Schilling. Miller leans on Ostrom first and then Bruiser during games. During timeouts Shilling was often on the outside of the huddles chatting with Clif Marshall and playing more of a cheerleader role to the players. I didn't necessarily view this as a negative because Ed's role was often perceived as the in-state recruiting ace and player development coach. It was just pretty odd, and had been going on for 2 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUwins0708 Posted June 27, 2019 Report Share Posted June 27, 2019 This isn’t a big deal at all. From my understanding it was somewhat mutual. As someone else said Ostrom is our lead and best recruiter and he and Ed clashed so to speak. I don’t believe there is any hard feelings on either side, just something that didn’t work out. Let’s hope for a popular name to jump on board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted June 27, 2019 Report Share Posted June 27, 2019 This is kind of a "meh" thing in my opinion. I think people get too worked up over these things. Timing is certainly odd, but the program will go on and changes like this happen, and are an opportunity for a new voice and to improve in some areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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