rico Posted June 27, 2019 Report Share Posted June 27, 2019 8 minutes ago, BGleas said: This is kind of a "meh" thing in my opinion. I think people get too worked up over these things. Timing is certainly odd, but the program will go on and changes like this happen, and are an opportunity for a new voice and to improve in some areas. Agree 100%...meh. Hell, we put up 25 wins next season and this will be an after thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElectricBoogaloo Posted June 27, 2019 Report Share Posted June 27, 2019 12 hours ago, Zeisloft and Roth said: I have to think the next hire will be a recruiter. I know Ostrom is the recruiting specialist - but I think a second big time recruiter would be a huge help. I'm hoping the next hire is a player development guy. Schilling was supposed to be that guy as well but we didn't see much development honestly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElectricBoogaloo Posted June 27, 2019 Report Share Posted June 27, 2019 IU assistant coach profiles on 247 linked below. Interesting to see the "all time commits" section. https://247sports.com/Coach/Bruiser-Flint-2885/ https://247sports.com/Coach/Tom-Ostrom-2578/ https://247sports.com/Coach/Ed-Schilling-1881/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zuckerkorn Posted June 27, 2019 Report Share Posted June 27, 2019 I have to think the KBJ saga played into this (pure speculation based on zero facts). I strongly feel Archie let off the gas on '19 recruiting, feeling KBJ was coming. Was Ed giving CAM assurances it was only a matter of time until he signed and then it fell apart leaving us scrambling? Did the Brooks' deceive ES and then pulled the chair out from under him? Who knows? I sure don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sagamore Posted June 27, 2019 Report Share Posted June 27, 2019 EB, Well that probably explains it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iuhoopsfan Posted June 27, 2019 Report Share Posted June 27, 2019 I would love to see Dane Fife, but that is not happening. Dane's next step will be a head coaching job. After being named Associate Head coach last year, I can't see him making a lateral move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUaic Posted June 27, 2019 Report Share Posted June 27, 2019 8 hours ago, rico said: Hey. A day without drama is like a day without sunshine...now where did I put my beer? I miss the rain. 😩 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybergates Posted June 27, 2019 Report Share Posted June 27, 2019 5 minutes ago, Iuhoopsfan said: I would love to see Dane Fife, but that is not happening. Dane's next step will be a head coaching job. After being named Associate Head coach last year, I can't see him making a lateral move. Agreed. He's 18th on this list (Ostrom is 13th). Wouldn't think he would come to a place with a young HC in place preventing him from being HC there for a long time/if ever. Too bad Hulls is still playing and not coaching. I would think he would be an ideal assistant college coach (someday). https://247sports.com/Season/2018-Basketball/CompositeCoachRankings/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted June 27, 2019 Report Share Posted June 27, 2019 8 minutes ago, Iuhoopsfan said: I would love to see Dane Fife, but that is not happening. Dane's next step will be a head coaching job. After being named Associate Head coach last year, I can't see him making a lateral move. It wouldn't even be lateral, it would be a demotion. I believe Ostom is the #1 assistant and I doubt Archie would slide him down the line to make room for Dane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted June 27, 2019 Report Share Posted June 27, 2019 3 minutes ago, BGleas said: It wouldn't even be lateral, it would be a demotion. I believe Ostom is the #1 assistant and I doubt Archie would slide him down the line to make room for Dane. The Dane train sailed along time ago. He made his bed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cutter Posted June 27, 2019 Report Share Posted June 27, 2019 42 minutes ago, ElectricBoogaloo said: I'm hoping the next hire is a player development guy. Schilling was supposed to be that guy as well but we didn't see much development honestly. I posted the same thing about schilling months ago and was admonished by a few lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milehiiu Posted June 27, 2019 Report Share Posted June 27, 2019 In terms of a young assistant not willing to wait his turn. And I realize, people are different. However, I give you Bruce Weber. Spent 18 years at Purdue, before taking his first HC gig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milehiiu Posted June 27, 2019 Report Share Posted June 27, 2019 Talking about former IU players coming back home as an assistant. Sent me on a search for Michael Lewis. I was unaware, or had forgotten about this : Michael Lewis named UCLA men's basketball assistant coach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OGIUAndy Posted June 27, 2019 Report Share Posted June 27, 2019 I really don't care about IU connections unless it's a perfect fit. This hire will be interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted June 27, 2019 Report Share Posted June 27, 2019 Archie should call into Dakich's show, offer him the position while on the air, and then immediately pull it back and say "Just talking out of both sides of my mouth like you do Dan". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moyeneeded Posted June 27, 2019 Report Share Posted June 27, 2019 12 hours ago, Brass Cannon said: The fact he couldn’t deliver on the recruiting trail, our poor guard development and the fact UCLA wasn’t bummed to see Ed leave. I hope this works out for us. We differ in opinions alot of times, but I'm definitely with you on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OGIUAndy Posted June 27, 2019 Report Share Posted June 27, 2019 34 minutes ago, 5fouls said: Archie should call into Dakich's show, offer him the position while on the air, and then immediately pull it back and say "Just talking out of both sides of my mouth like you do Dan". Kevin Wilson might have done this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moyeneeded Posted June 27, 2019 Report Share Posted June 27, 2019 2 hours ago, cybergates said: Agreed. He's 18th on this list (Ostrom is 13th). Wouldn't think he would come to a place with a young HC in place preventing him from being HC there for a long time/if ever. Too bad Hulls is still playing and not coaching. I would think he would be an ideal assistant college coach (someday). https://247sports.com/Season/2018-Basketball/CompositeCoachRankings/ Actually just the opposite. If CAM doesn't get the job done, fans and alumni have the replacement right there on the bench. That's why Archie would NEVER bring Fife in the fold. You don't hire your own replacement if you plan on coaching somewhere for awhile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsidehoosier Posted June 27, 2019 Report Share Posted June 27, 2019 https://www.wdrb.com/sports/bozich-what-does-miller-need-at-iu-best-coach-available/article_bf02e94e-98fa-11e9-92be-d3083642611f.html SIAP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdhoosier Posted June 27, 2019 Report Share Posted June 27, 2019 11 minutes ago, southsidehoosier said: https://www.wdrb.com/sports/bozich-what-does-miller-need-at-iu-best-coach-available/article_bf02e94e-98fa-11e9-92be-d3083642611f.html SIAP That seems like a pretty good strategy. Haha. Where is that shot doctor/offensive guru/relentless and charming recruiter? Let’s go get him. (Maybe a little easier said than done) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeisloft and Roth Posted June 27, 2019 Report Share Posted June 27, 2019 Can we bring back the Shot Doctor? I think adding someone to the staff that can really coach shooting form would be a big bonus. I think this could really help our team - one example I can give you is Collin Hartman's senior year. He was leaning and falling back on his jump shot throughout the year - it never got fixed and it was blatantly obvious. This resulted in a huge decrease in his 3 point shooting accuracy. This would never have happened when we had the Shot Doctor - he was always there to help people who were struggling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OGIUAndy Posted June 27, 2019 Report Share Posted June 27, 2019 My opinion is you get the best coach (right fit) for your team. Winning will bring recruits. You can have every high school coach or relative or alumni you want, kids will pay attention to your program when you win. Obviously there are outliers for new programs ie Memphis, but that shine will wear off if they lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted June 27, 2019 Report Share Posted June 27, 2019 Do we bring in an ex NBA guy...doesn't have to be one of our own...but certainly would allow us to speak authoritively on what it takes to get your game there and what to expect in the process....seem kids are most interested in this. Heck it could even be an ex-Pacer or someone with ties to the state...not necessarily IU. Any thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted June 27, 2019 Report Share Posted June 27, 2019 16 minutes ago, OGIUAndy said: My opinion is you get the best coach (right fit) for your team. Winning will bring recruits. You can have every high school coach or relative or alumni you want, kids will pay attention to your program when you win. Obviously there are outliers for new programs ie Memphis, but that shine will wear off if they lose. This. I'm all for having an "IU guy" on the bench, but I want Archie to hire the best fit for 'his' program. If it's a former IU player then that is bonus. All that really matters at the end of the day is winning. If you win, fans and recruits, etc. won't care if there's an IU guy on the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted June 27, 2019 Report Share Posted June 27, 2019 11 minutes ago, dgambill said: Do we bring in an ex NBA guy...doesn't have to be one of our own...but certainly would allow us to speak authoritively on what it takes to get your game there and what to expect in the process....seem kids are most interested in this. Heck it could even be an ex-Pacer or someone with ties to the state...not necessarily IU. Any thoughts? Not Chuck Person even though he was a former Pacer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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