5fouls Posted July 30, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2019 41 minutes ago, Steubenhoosier said: Luers confirmed to be a 2A school. Lack of success at the 3A level and falling enrollment numbers. I don't think it's lack of success. They went to semi-state last year and regional the year before that. While that technically may not meet success factor requirements to play up, they clearly can compete at the 3A level. It truly is an enrollment related thing with them. As it is they are the 2nd largest 2A school. Literally missed being 3A by 2 students. 542 students at Luers when Tippacanoe Valley has 544 and is in 3A. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted July 30, 2019 Report Share Posted July 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, 5fouls said: I don't think it's lack of success. They went to semi-state last year and regional the year before that. While that technically may not meet success factor requirements to play up, they clearly can compete at the 3A level. It truly is an enrollment related thing with them. As it is they are the 2nd largest 2A school. Literally missed being 3A by 2 students. 542 students at Luers when Tippacanoe Valley has 544 and is in 3A. Speaking of Valley...they were a power house at one time. They are struggling right now in 3A. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted July 30, 2019 Report Share Posted July 30, 2019 2 hours ago, 5fouls said: Project ourselves into the year 2049. What does high school football in Indiana look like? Does it have a future, or will the concussion related fallout continue to push youth away from the sport? Will liability fears and/or costs make it too much of a risk for school districts to allow the schools to field teams? I don't know how the concussion issue will affect the future of HS football in this state but I know around me there are several school districts that are having financial difficulties period. Maybe btown can give us some financial numbers as to the kind of money it takes to field a football team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steubenhoosier Posted July 30, 2019 Report Share Posted July 30, 2019 54 minutes ago, rico said: And I would imagine they are in the same sectional as my Whitko Wildcats. Yep, Sectional 35 Bluffton, Central Noble, Eastside, Fairfield, Luers, Prairie Heights, Whitko, and Woodland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steubenhoosier Posted July 30, 2019 Report Share Posted July 30, 2019 3 hours ago, 5fouls said: Project ourselves into the year 2049. What does high school football in Indiana look like? Does it have a future, or will the concussion related fallout continue to push youth away from the sport? Will liability fears and/or costs make it too much of a risk for school districts to allow the schools to field teams? While looking up some information on the IHSAA website, i saw that there is already a Unified Flag Football state tournament in place. Looks like about 28 schools are mentioned as having teams. I could see this become a much more prevalent alternative to tackle football sooner than 2049. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted July 30, 2019 Report Share Posted July 30, 2019 28 minutes ago, Steubenhoosier said: Yep, Sectional 35 Bluffton, Central Noble, Eastside, Fairfield, Luers, Prairie Heights, Whitko, and Woodland Lots of miles between those schools. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stlboiler23 Posted July 30, 2019 Report Share Posted July 30, 2019 Here’s a question I’m curious to hear answers to. I think that all of us would agree that top to bottom, the MIC is the best conference for football (and it’s not close IMO). What would you say is the second best conference in the state on a yearly basis? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted July 30, 2019 Report Share Posted July 30, 2019 59 minutes ago, Stlboiler23 said: Here’s a question I’m curious to hear answers to. I think that all of us would agree that top to bottom, the MIC is the best conference for football (and it’s not close IMO). What would you say is the second best conference in the state on a yearly basis? Avon, Westfield, Brownsburg, HSE, Fishers, Noblesville, Franklin Central, Zionsville. That's not close either. Hoosier Crossroads Conference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stlboiler23 Posted July 30, 2019 Report Share Posted July 30, 2019 Just now, btownqb said: Avon, Westfield, Brownsburg, HSE, Fishers, Noblesville, Franklin Central, Zionsville. That's not close either. Hoosier Crossroads Conference. That’s a good point. HCC is a good conference too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted July 30, 2019 Report Share Posted July 30, 2019 5 hours ago, 5fouls said: Project ourselves into the year 2049. What does high school football in Indiana look like? Does it have a future, or will the concussion related fallout continue to push youth away from the sport? Will liability fears and/or costs make it too much of a risk for school districts to allow the schools to field teams? https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sbnation.com/platform/amp/2017/7/11/15952184/cte-study-wisconsin-high-school-football There is no risk to playing HS football. At least no more than the other sports. Girls soccer has the highest concussion rate of any sport, why no one talks about that is behind me. Probably because the media is a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted July 30, 2019 Report Share Posted July 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, Stlboiler23 said: That’s a good point. HCC is a good conference too. Big gap between that conference and the rest of the state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted July 30, 2019 Report Share Posted July 30, 2019 2 hours ago, rico said: I don't know how the concussion issue will affect the future of HS football in this state but I know around me there are several school districts that are having financial difficulties period. Maybe btown can give us some financial numbers as to the kind of money it takes to field a football team? I dont have the exact numbers... but the fundraisers we do: discount cards, T shirt/sweatshirt sales, Chili supper at a home basketball game, dancing with the stars (this brings in 10K-12K per year), spring camps, summer camps. We have excellent equipment(especially for a school our size), but we've raised the money to have those nice things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stlboiler23 Posted July 30, 2019 Report Share Posted July 30, 2019 16 minutes ago, btownqb said: Big gap between that conference and the rest of the state. Not sure how old you are but do you remember when both Terre Haute schools were in the MIC? Talk about awful travel time for games haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted July 30, 2019 Report Share Posted July 30, 2019 1 minute ago, Stlboiler23 said: Not sure how old you are but do you remember when both Terre Haute schools were in the MIC? Talk about awful travel time for games haha. Yes I do. Still sort of confused how that ever got started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steubenhoosier Posted July 30, 2019 Report Share Posted July 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Stlboiler23 said: Here’s a question I’m curious to hear answers to. I think that all of us would agree that top to bottom, the MIC is the best conference for football (and it’s not close IMO). What would you say is the second best conference in the state on a yearly basis? The Summit Athletic Conference (Ft. Wayne) has frequent state champ contenders in Snider, Bishop Dwenger and Bishop Luers. Concordia just won the state championship a couple of years back. Homestead and Carroll are also generally very good. I would put that conference up against most in the state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted July 30, 2019 Report Share Posted July 30, 2019 53 minutes ago, btownqb said: I dont have the exact numbers... but the fundraisers we do: discount cards, T shirt/sweatshirt sales, Chili supper at a home basketball game, dancing with the stars (this brings in 10K-12K per year), spring camps, summer camps. We have excellent equipment(especially for a school our size), but we've raised the money to have those nice things. So, more than taxpayer dollars are required? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted July 30, 2019 Report Share Posted July 30, 2019 Just now, rico said: So, more than taxpayer dollars are required? Oh absolutely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted July 30, 2019 Report Share Posted July 30, 2019 4 minutes ago, Steubenhoosier said: The Summit Athletic Conference (Ft. Wayne) has frequent state champ contenders in Snider, Bishop Dwenger and Bishop Luers. Concordia just won the state championship a couple of years back. Homestead and Carroll are also generally very good. I would put that conference up against most in the state. As would I. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted July 30, 2019 Report Share Posted July 30, 2019 5 minutes ago, Steubenhoosier said: The Summit Athletic Conference (Ft. Wayne) has frequent state champ contenders in Snider, Bishop Dwenger and Bishop Luers. Concordia just won the state championship a couple of years back. Homestead and Carroll are also generally very good. I would put that conference up against most in the state. I would say that conference is third. Probably even comfortably third. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted July 30, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2019 57 minutes ago, btownqb said: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sbnation.com/platform/amp/2017/7/11/15952184/cte-study-wisconsin-high-school-football There is no risk to playing HS football. At least no more than the other sports. Girls soccer has the highest concussion rate of any sport, why no one talks about that is behind me. Probably because the media is a joke. Whether there is increased risk or not, the perception is that there is. Numbers are already down at many high schools and in youth leagues. Eventually, those trends will change the sport, if for no other reason than fewer schools will be able to field a team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted July 30, 2019 Report Share Posted July 30, 2019 1 minute ago, btownqb said: Oh absolutely Well right there is gonna be a pitfall to some schools that don't have the community's support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted July 30, 2019 Report Share Posted July 30, 2019 1 minute ago, 5fouls said: Whether there is increased risk or not, the perception is that there is. Numbers are already down at many high schools and in youth leagues. Eventually, those trends will change the sport, if for no other reason than fewer schools will be able to field a team. And combined with the financial aspect makes for a bad recipe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted July 30, 2019 Report Share Posted July 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, 5fouls said: Whether there is increased risk or not, the perception is that there is. Numbers are already down at many high schools and in youth leagues. Eventually, those trends will change the sport, if for no other reason than fewer schools will be able to field a team. There are more HS playing football now than ever before though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted July 30, 2019 Report Share Posted July 30, 2019 3 minutes ago, btownqb said: I would say that conference is third. Probably even comfortably third. Perhaps, you follow it closer than I. But keep your eye on Homestead and Carroll. Those areas of Fort Wayne are booming. Their enrollments are skyrocketing...and they have plenty of room to grow area wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted July 30, 2019 Report Share Posted July 30, 2019 7 minutes ago, rico said: Perhaps, you follow it closer than I. But keep your eye on Homestead and Carroll. Those areas of Fort Wayne are booming. Their enrollments are skyrocketing...and they have plenty of room to grow area wise. But so are Fishers Nob HSE Westfield Zionsville etc that are in 2nd. Then you throw in Avon and Brownsburg. Itd be the depth of the HCC that should set it apart from the Summit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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