FKIM01 Posted August 15, 2019 Report Share Posted August 15, 2019 Not in the slightest bit concerned. It's well-known how Adidas funneled money to Romeo's dad. While some may consider it shady, it's absolutely not outside of the rules. If he already had 100K to run Romeo's team, it would be no surprise if he turned down another 20K that could cost Romeo his eligibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IowaHoosierFan Posted August 15, 2019 Report Share Posted August 15, 2019 I am surprised IU hasn't self-imposed a 4 year NCAA ban, loss of 4 scholarships over 4 years and rehired and then subsequently re-fired Tom Crean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted August 15, 2019 Report Share Posted August 15, 2019 7 hours ago, btownqb said: Not worried Worried implies giving this an ounce of thought. I'm not even doing that. Haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted August 15, 2019 Report Share Posted August 15, 2019 For those not worried, regardless of what actually happened, just by his name being mentioned, there is some collateral damage here. Duke is in a much stronger position than IU to simply ignore and move on. They have the stronger brand name and more recent success. I imagine some opposing coaches are already working on the line they will use on the recruiting trail. Something like, "You know IU has that Nike thing going on with Romeo. You don't know how the NCAA is going to react to it. Blah, blah, blah.". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FKIM01 Posted August 15, 2019 Report Share Posted August 15, 2019 2 hours ago, 5fouls said: For those not worried, regardless of what actually happened, just by his name being mentioned, there is some collateral damage here. Duke is in a much stronger position than IU to simply ignore and move on. They have the stronger brand name and more recent success. I imagine some opposing coaches are already working on the line they will use on the recruiting trail. Something like, "You know IU has that Nike thing going on with Romeo. You don't know how the NCAA is going to react to it. Blah, blah, blah.". Based on Trendon Watford to LSU, apparently that doesn't really move the needle anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierhoopster Posted August 16, 2019 Report Share Posted August 16, 2019 2 hours ago, 5fouls said: For those not worried, regardless of what actually happened, just by his name being mentioned, there is some collateral damage here. Duke is in a much stronger position than IU to simply ignore and move on. They have the stronger brand name and more recent success. I imagine some opposing coaches are already working on the line they will use on the recruiting trail. Something like, "You know IU has that Nike thing going on with Romeo. You don't know how the NCAA is going to react to it. Blah, blah, blah.". Is UNC, or Louisville, or MSU, or any other major school suffering, anything? there’s absolutely nothing here to have any concern about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDB Posted August 16, 2019 Report Share Posted August 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, Hoosierhoopster said: Is UNC, or Louisville, or MSU, or any other major school suffering, anything? there’s absolutely nothing here to have any concern about How about UK? Everyone knows/ claims they pay their players and we haven’t heard one peep about them. What up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted August 16, 2019 Report Share Posted August 16, 2019 8 minutes ago, Hoosierhoopster said: Is UNC, or Louisville, or MSU, or any other major school suffering, anything? there’s absolutely nothing here to have any concern about Maybe they don't suffer because they still cheat. Meanwhile , assume IU does not cheat, but coaches imply we are. We're not getting the kids on the take nor are we getting the kids that want to avoid that stuff. Just something to think about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milehiiu Posted August 16, 2019 Report Share Posted August 16, 2019 Two things need to happen: 1. The NBA needs to rescind the OAD rule. 2. The NCAA needs to be replaced with a real ruling authority. Not the joke we have today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted August 16, 2019 Report Share Posted August 16, 2019 3 hours ago, 5fouls said: For those not worried, regardless of what actually happened, just by his name being mentioned, there is some collateral damage here. Duke is in a much stronger position than IU to simply ignore and move on. They have the stronger brand name and more recent success. I imagine some opposing coaches are already working on the line they will use on the recruiting trail. Something like, "You know IU has that Nike thing going on with Romeo. You don't know how the NCAA is going to react to it. Blah, blah, blah.". I think it probably actually helps IU to be mentioned in the same breath as Duke/Zion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted August 16, 2019 Report Share Posted August 16, 2019 3 hours ago, 5fouls said: For those not worried, regardless of what actually happened, just by his name being mentioned, there is some collateral damage here. Duke is in a much stronger position than IU to simply ignore and move on. They have the stronger brand name and more recent success. I imagine some opposing coaches are already working on the line they will use on the recruiting trail. Something like, "You know IU has that Nike thing going on with Romeo. You don't know how the NCAA is going to react to it. Blah, blah, blah.". Just disagree. Name's are mentioned so often anymore I don't think as others have said it even moves the needle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy1987 Posted August 16, 2019 Report Share Posted August 16, 2019 2 hours ago, BGleas said: I think it probably actually helps IU to be mentioned in the same breath as Duke/Zion. I think you are right. When you miss the dance 3 straight years and get mentioned with the Top Dog... suddenly we sound relevant. Go Hoosiers!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milehiiu Posted August 16, 2019 Report Share Posted August 16, 2019 1 minute ago, Indy1987 said: I think you are right. When you miss the dance 3 straight years and get mentioned with the Top Dog... suddenly we sound relevant. Go Hoosiers!!! What I have been saying all summer long. IU is a historically elite program, despite missing the NCAAT for 3 straight years 5 NC's. Can't take that away from us. I don' see New Mexico mentioned along side the likes of Duke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach1K Posted August 19, 2019 Report Share Posted August 19, 2019 On 8/15/2019 at 8:37 PM, milehiiu said: Two things need to happen: 1. The NBA needs to rescind the OAD rule. 2. The NCAA needs to be replaced with a real ruling authority. Not the joke we have today. Both of these things I agree with, but in terms of the second one does an exploratory committee get created in order to figure out what to replace them with and who should be in charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdhoosier Posted August 19, 2019 Report Share Posted August 19, 2019 On 8/15/2019 at 7:37 PM, milehiiu said: Two things need to happen: 1. The NBA needs to rescind the OAD rule. 2. The NCAA needs to be replaced with a real ruling authority. Not the joke we have today. Wasn't #1 on the table in the latest negotiations? I wonder whatever happened - it sounded like it had a legit chance of being changed because the commissioner was behind it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milehiiu Posted August 19, 2019 Report Share Posted August 19, 2019 3 minutes ago, tdhoosier said: Wasn't #1 on the table in the latest negotiations? I wonder whatever happened - it sounded like it had a legit chance of being changed because the commissioner was behind it. Correct. Still waiting for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy1987 Posted August 19, 2019 Report Share Posted August 19, 2019 28 minutes ago, tdhoosier said: Wasn't #1 on the table in the latest negotiations? I wonder whatever happened - it sounded like it had a legit chance of being changed because the commissioner was behind it. In May the commish said he hoped by the 2022 draft. There's still plenty of negotiations with the player's union so who knows. Go Hoosiers!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13th&Jackson Posted August 19, 2019 Report Share Posted August 19, 2019 34 minutes ago, milehiiu said: Correct. Still waiting for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted August 19, 2019 Report Share Posted August 19, 2019 36 minutes ago, milehiiu said: Correct. Still waiting for it. I thought I heard an interview or read it somewhere some in the NBA still would like it to go to two years and done instead of allowing them come straight from high school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdhoosier Posted August 19, 2019 Report Share Posted August 19, 2019 This is a good comprehensive article on it. What a tangled web https://www.si.com/nba/2019/03/03/legal-analysis-change-age-eligibility-rule-one-and-done If I were to guess, I think that the NBA is okay waiting in hope for the the G-League to develop. Currently 'potential money' from exposure seems to override a guaranteed G-League contract - at least from they highest profile OAD's. The NBA wants the best of all worlds - and they are in the position of power. *I did find interesting the past lawsuits that have been put forth against the NFL and NBA were ultimately lost because of collective bargaining. I do also find it interesting that nobody has attempted to file an age discrimination lawsuit yet. Maybe it's the next step. Based on the quote below, you think an argument could be made: “This is the way the free market is supposed to operate,” Milstein tells SI. “Athletes should be treated no differently than musicians, or actors, or software savants. If they can sell their services at a young age, and their parents are in accord, the market should allow it.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted August 19, 2019 Report Share Posted August 19, 2019 29 minutes ago, tdhoosier said: This is a good comprehensive article on it. What a tangled web https://www.si.com/nba/2019/03/03/legal-analysis-change-age-eligibility-rule-one-and-done If I were to guess, I think that the NBA is okay waiting in hope for the the G-League to develop. Currently 'potential money' from exposure seems to override a guaranteed G-League contract - at least from they highest profile OAD's. The NBA wants the best of all worlds - and they are in the position of power. *I did find interesting the past lawsuits that have been put forth against the NFL and NBA were ultimately lost because of collective bargaining. I do also find it interesting that nobody has attempted to file an age discrimination lawsuit yet. Maybe it's the next step. Based on the quote below, you think an argument could be made: “This is the way the free market is supposed to operate,” Milstein tells SI. “Athletes should be treated no differently than musicians, or actors, or software savants. If they can sell their services at a young age, and their parents are in accord, the market should allow it.” Some people act like pro sports are the only industry that has any kind requirements or age to determine eligibility to get a job in that industry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdhoosier Posted August 19, 2019 Report Share Posted August 19, 2019 5 minutes ago, IU Scott said: Some people act like pro sports are the only industry that has any kind requirements or age to determine eligibility to get a job in that industry. An example of one that doesn't permit employees who are at least 18 years of age? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted August 19, 2019 Report Share Posted August 19, 2019 14 minutes ago, tdhoosier said: An example of one that doesn't permit employees who are at least 18 years of age? I am saying that certain industries have requirements to gain employment in that field. It might be having certain certificate or a degree so why is it bad for the NBA to have a requirement to meet before they gain employment. I work in the trucking industry and their are certain requirements for our drivers to meet be before they can drive a Semi. Also you can't drive a semi under the age of 18 and can't join the military under the age of 18. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted August 19, 2019 Report Share Posted August 19, 2019 16 minutes ago, tdhoosier said: An example of one that doesn't permit employees who are at least 18 years of age? Political offices... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted August 19, 2019 Report Share Posted August 19, 2019 17 minutes ago, tdhoosier said: An example of one that doesn't permit employees who are at least 18 years of age? Also it is not really an age requirement for the NBA because a kid can be 18 and be in the draft. All it says is that a kid has to be one year removed for high school until he can enter the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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