dbmhoosier Posted October 5, 2019 Report Share Posted October 5, 2019 14 minutes ago, IU Scott said: Would you stop please with your negative tone and it is not like Archie has not h a couple of all American recruits. Scott you are so full of crap it isn't funny. I like Archie and have said many times that he's a good coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted October 6, 2019 Report Share Posted October 6, 2019 5 minutes ago, dbmhoosier said: Scott you are so full of crap it isn't funny. I like Archie and have said many times that he's a good coach. I have seen you post on two different sites and when you were on the other site you were right there ripping Archie with the rest of your cronies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted October 6, 2019 Report Share Posted October 6, 2019 I think Archie is perfectly content stressing substance over style. That's who he is. That approach will work with certain recruits. Romeo is an example of a recruit that would have been completely turned off by the type of thing that Kansas did. The problem is that the substance has not yet shown up in the W/L record. If the rumors are true and Furst is down to Virginia and IU, I would put him in the 'substance' category as well. The problem for IU in that recruitment is that we currently trail Virginia in that category. This is such a huge season for IU. The early injuries really concern me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted October 6, 2019 Report Share Posted October 6, 2019 1 minute ago, 5fouls said: I think Archie is perfectly content stressing substance over style. That's who he is. That approach will work with certain recruits. Romeo is an example of a recruit that would have been completely turned off by the type of thing that Kansas did. The problem is that the substance has not yet shown up in the W/L record. If the rumors are true and Furst is down to Virginia and IU, I would put him in the 'substance' category as well. The problem for IU in that recruitment is that we currently trail Virginia in that category. This is such a huge season for IU. The early injuries really concern me. I have noticed the last 3 years that HH is way shorter and their is less glitz and glamour. Besides last years player introductions which was a huge show most of the other things are just your basic stuff under Archie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steubenhoosier Posted October 6, 2019 Report Share Posted October 6, 2019 On January 1st, I’ll be concerned about injuries. On October 5th they are like that gnat buzzing your ears that won’t go away. Nuisance for sure, but nothing to go nuts about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13th&Jackson Posted October 6, 2019 Report Share Posted October 6, 2019 58 minutes ago, dbmhoosier said: He's a total introvert and doesn't like the spotlight. Not a knock but it is what it is. It's why I've said many times that guys like Mack and Holtmann will prove to be much better recruiters. He is an introvert, but so is Coach K. John Wooden was and I’m sure Brad Stevens is as well. Being an introvert doesn’t guarantee success as a coach, but it’s not necessarily a negative either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted October 6, 2019 Report Share Posted October 6, 2019 I did not like seeing the 3 miss the practice but none appeared to be serious. None were in a walking boot and all of them were out on the court during warmups messing around, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parakeet Jones Posted October 6, 2019 Report Share Posted October 6, 2019 45 minutes ago, IU Scott said: Got there at 2:20 and was on the 20th row section D 42 minutes ago, IU Scott said: Our usher told us to leave so we got half way down the ramp when we heard we could go back I was in row 13 of section D. I was a rebel and didn’t budge. I thought about it, but decided to take my chances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted October 6, 2019 Report Share Posted October 6, 2019 In regards to cutting the scrimmage short. I'll buy it if it was to prevent further injuries. Most fans would understand that. But, if it was shortened due to recruiting obligations or because the team was playing like crap, that's not really fair to the fans that showed up. IU is a great coaching opportunity because of the fan base. Archie needs to understand that. Without the fan base, the IU we've seen for the last several years is more Minnesota or Iowa than it is the 5 time National Champion that my generation grew up with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted October 6, 2019 Report Share Posted October 6, 2019 4 minutes ago, Steubenhoosier said: On January 1st, I’ll be concerned about injuries. On October 5th they are like that gnat buzzing your ears that won’t go away. Nuisance for sure, but nothing to go nuts about The season could already be in a downward spiral by January 1st if we have 2-3 key players out. I see this as a team that needs a good start to the season to build momentum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steubenhoosier Posted October 6, 2019 Report Share Posted October 6, 2019 4 minutes ago, 5fouls said: The season could already be in a downward spiral by January 1st if we have 2-3 key players out. I see this as a team that needs a good start to the season to build momentum. Guess I am going by what I read on this board. Per DMB, we don’t play anyone in the pre-conference schedule. Per Scott, the conference championship is all that matters. If we’ re healthy on January 1, we’ve got them both covered 😛 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted October 6, 2019 Report Share Posted October 6, 2019 1 hour ago, 5fouls said: So, let me ask the opinion of the board. I get the feeling that an event like Hoosier Hysteria is not Archie's type of thing. How does everyone feel about his cutting the scrimmage short for a recruiting 'obligation' that I would assume could have been scheduled for another time? Is this real, or just an excuse to cut it short? I mean, there are no games of any sort going on this time of year. What kind of 'obligation' had to be done today at at time that interfered with the event? For me, cutting the scrimmage short due to being shorthanded with the injuries is something I understand. But, the recruiting 'obligation' mentioned doesn't seem right for the fans that made the effort to come out and support the team. Just curious. How can you find a negative on an opening event? Usually I let some of the stuff slide....but criticizing and analyzing this? Seems off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted October 6, 2019 Report Share Posted October 6, 2019 18 minutes ago, 5fouls said: In regards to cutting the scrimmage short. I'll buy it if it was to prevent further injuries. Most fans would understand that. But, if it was shortened due to recruiting obligations or because the team was playing like crap, that's not really fair to the fans that showed up. IU is a great coaching opportunity because of the fan base. Archie needs to understand that. Without the fan base, the IU we've seen for the last several years is more Minnesota or Iowa than it is the 5 time National Champion that my generation grew up with. What is funny is that a lot of people left before the scrimmage. For me the scrimmage is what I like to see and really don't care for some of the other activities. Every year it seems like some get up and leave when it is announced that the scrimmage is getting ready to start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted October 6, 2019 Report Share Posted October 6, 2019 2 minutes ago, Seeking6 said: Just curious. How can you find a negative on an opening event? Usually I let some of the stuff slide....but criticizing and analyzing this? Seems off. Well, Kansas had an opening event worth criticizing. Do you agree? Hoosier Hysteria is an event for the fans. The team can adjust the amount of time they scrimmage any time they want when there is not thousands of fans that traveled from all over the state to watch. The day is about the fans or it is not. Don't schedule the event at all if it's getting in the way of team preparation or 'recruiting obligations'. Other schools do a better job of making it about the fans, even without going over the top like Kansas did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted October 6, 2019 Report Share Posted October 6, 2019 3 minutes ago, IU Scott said: What is funny is that a lot of people left before the scrimmage. For me the scrimmage is what I like to see and really don't care for some of the other activities. Every year it seems like some get up and leave when it is announced that the scrimmage is getting ready to start. I agree with you there. For me, the scrimmage would be much more meaningful to see than the three point or dunk contests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU4Ever Posted October 6, 2019 Report Share Posted October 6, 2019 1 hour ago, 3Ballin said: there was NO fanfare for ANY recruit. Kinda dissapointing. If Lander was there, he didn't have his normal.....easy to spot hair cut. Have to remember that schools are not allowed to specifically highlight or draw attention to the recruits at these events per yet another outdated and worthless NCAA rule. We got in trouble a year or 2 back for escorting them individually across the floor or something along those lines. About the best you can do is have people planted in the audience to start fan chants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted October 6, 2019 Report Share Posted October 6, 2019 1 minute ago, IU4Ever said: About the best you can do is have people planted in the audience to start fan chants. Good idea. Certainly a creative way to circumvent the stupid rule. And, it would have made an impression. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13th&Jackson Posted October 6, 2019 Report Share Posted October 6, 2019 2 minutes ago, 5fouls said: Good idea. Certainly a creative way to circumvent the stupid rule. And, it would have made an impression. As long as none of the plants have ever purchased a bumper sticker. Then they’d be boosters. We’d probably lose schollys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted October 6, 2019 Report Share Posted October 6, 2019 1 minute ago, 13th&Jackson said: As long as none of the plants have ever purchased a bumper sticker. Then they’d be boosters. We’d probably lose schollys Maybe the plants could be Snoop Dog, Drake, Amanda Marcum Enfield, and Katina Powell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted October 6, 2019 Report Share Posted October 6, 2019 1 hour ago, 5fouls said: Maybe so. But, those guys were already there, so did it have to start immediately at the expense of the scrimmage? Maybe one of them was leaving? Who knows. Honestly, this seems like a really insignificant thing to make a big deal about. Most years people seem to complain about the scrimmage anyways and half the crowd usually leaves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted October 6, 2019 Report Share Posted October 6, 2019 Just now, BGleas said: Maybe one of them was leaving? Who knows. Honestly, this seems like a really insignificant thing to make a big deal about. Most years people seem to complain about the scrimmage anyways and half the crowd usually leaves. Who knows. Maybe I'm out of touch. But, if I had gone, the scrimmage would have been the highlight for me. I would understand if they kept it short due to the injuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted October 6, 2019 Report Share Posted October 6, 2019 15 minutes ago, 5fouls said: Who knows. Maybe I'm out of touch. But, if I had gone, the scrimmage would have been the highlight for me. I would understand if they kept it short due to the injuries. For sure, we’re the serious fans, and if I was there I’d be most interested in the scrimmage too. This just seems so low on the list of things to be concerned about or make a big deal about. To this point, does Archie seem like the type of guy to ‘PR spin’ something and have the SID make up a reason for? To me, this is one of those ‘that stinks’ and then move on type of things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted October 6, 2019 Report Share Posted October 6, 2019 1 minute ago, BGleas said: For sure, we’re the serious fans, and if I was there I’d be most interested in the scrimmage too. This just seems so low on the list of things to be concerned about or make a big deal about. To this point, does Archie seem like the type of guy to ‘PR spin’ something and have the SID make up a reason for? To me, this is one of those ‘that stinks’ and then move on type of things. I can't help to think back to Senior Day last year as well. A day that was supposed to be special for both fans and the players. I was in attendance and was very disappointed with how bland and unemotional the whole thing was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted October 6, 2019 Report Share Posted October 6, 2019 Just now, 5fouls said: I can't help to think back to Senior Day last year as well. A day that was supposed to be special for both fans and the players. I was in attendance and was very disappointed with how bland and unemotional the whole thing was. Agree with you on that. Was disappointed Archie didn’t speak about each guy, and I was expecting maybe a moment between Archie and Morgan, since Morgan really thrived under Archie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3Ballin Posted October 6, 2019 Report Share Posted October 6, 2019 18 minutes ago, BGleas said: Agree with you on that. Was disappointed Archie didn’t speak about each guy, and I was expecting maybe a moment between Archie and Morgan, since Morgan really thrived under Archie. I think CAM is very, VERY passionate, but has the emotional range of an artichoke. Very "Red Forman" like. I think he would take on the South Korean army with a rubber band and pen cap to defend his guys, but might give a crisp high five for an undefeted, national title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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