Stlboiler23 Posted November 7, 2019 Report Share Posted November 7, 2019 6 minutes ago, 13th&Jackson said: Well, the article was sketchy. Writer mentioned that all 3 are redshirt candidates, but then said Thompson hasn’t been approached, Gillis has, but provided no details on Newman Both Newman and Gillis will redshirt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13th&Jackson Posted November 7, 2019 Report Share Posted November 7, 2019 31 minutes ago, milehiiu said: I am watching the PU vs Green Bay game. I never thought any D1 game would be more stupid about making passes than our IU team last year.....till I saw PU tonight. Expecting Rico to ask if it’s due to the Packers pass rush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Robby Posted November 7, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2019 This confirmed it for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted November 7, 2019 Report Share Posted November 7, 2019 1 hour ago, dgambill said: Wow..I gotta give Painter credit. Convincing top 150 recruits to redshirt when so many want to play right away is a testament to his winning ways. Especially Gillis since he missed his high school senior year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FKIM01 Posted November 7, 2019 Report Share Posted November 7, 2019 1 hour ago, Stlboiler23 said: Both Newman and Gillis will redshirt. I get Gillis...he had a major injury last year. Why Newman though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stlboiler23 Posted November 7, 2019 Report Share Posted November 7, 2019 3 minutes ago, FKIM01 said: I get Gillis...he had a major injury last year. Why Newman though? Not a lot of guard minutes available at the 2/3 I’m guessing. Proctor looked really good tonight and between him, Hunter, and Stefanovic, not a lot of minutes left over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FKIM01 Posted November 7, 2019 Report Share Posted November 7, 2019 2 hours ago, Stlboiler23 said: Not a lot of guard minutes available at the 2/3 I’m guessing. Proctor looked really good tonight and between him, Hunter, and Stefanovic, not a lot of minutes left over. Interesting. Do you think Painter would have had Armaan Franklin redshirt had he gone to Purdue instead of Newman? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted November 7, 2019 Report Share Posted November 7, 2019 4 hours ago, FKIM01 said: I get Gillis...he had a major injury last year. Why Newman though? Gillis had surgery in April 2018 and again late July 2018. That's 15 months to recover from a torn meniscus. I figure the kid has to be chompin' at the bit to play b ball again. I guess it helps that he can practice and everything. I was looking forward to seeing both of them this year but if the playing time isn't there then I understand it. I bet they would have wanted to redshirt Franklin too. It looks like it's the Purdue way. Seems to be working for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted November 7, 2019 Report Share Posted November 7, 2019 4 hours ago, Lurker said: Gillis had surgery in April 2018 and again late July 2018. That's 15 months to recover from a torn meniscus. I figure the kid has to be chompin' at the bit to play b ball again. I guess it helps that he can practice and everything. I was looking forward to seeing both of them this year but if the playing time isn't there then I understand it. I bet they would have wanted to redshirt Franklin too. It looks like it's the Purdue way. Seems to be working for them. Might be why Franklin picked IU? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stlboiler23 Posted November 7, 2019 Report Share Posted November 7, 2019 6 hours ago, FKIM01 said: Interesting. Do you think Painter would have had Armaan Franklin redshirt had he gone to Purdue instead of Newman? No way to know for sure but yeah I think there’s a good chance he would’ve redshirted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billingsley99 Posted November 7, 2019 Report Share Posted November 7, 2019 Listening to Seth Greenberg and DD about redshirting and they had a great take. In todays game unless a player is injured it's a huge risk to redshirt a player. By the time the 5th year roles around they will have graduated well developed and unless your team is a title contender they become a huge target for a team that is a missing piece away from a title. Really made sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted November 7, 2019 Report Share Posted November 7, 2019 1 hour ago, Billingsley99 said: Listening to Seth Greenberg and DD about redshirting and they had a great take. In todays game unless a player is injured it's a huge risk to redshirt a player. By the time the 5th year roles around they will have graduated well developed and unless your team is a title contender they become a huge target for a team that is a missing piece away from a title. Really made sense Yep. Plenty of kids enter college already with credits. If they redshirt they can can load up on credits during first season and summer sessions. Some can graduate in 3 years (we've had a couple) but still have two years of eligibility remaining. Prime for poaching. Not saying it will happen in this case but it's a risk. Especially on future recruiting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INDenizen Posted November 7, 2019 Report Share Posted November 7, 2019 12 hours ago, Stlboiler23 said: Not a lot of guard minutes available at the 2/3 I’m guessing. Proctor looked really good tonight and between him, Hunter, and Stefanovic, not a lot of minutes left over. Thanks for your info. Do you know if Newman was aware of this possibility when being recruited? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stlboiler23 Posted November 7, 2019 Report Share Posted November 7, 2019 9 minutes ago, INDenizen said: Thanks for your info. Do you know if Newman was aware of this possibility when being recruited? No idea honestly. Painter ultimately leaves it up to the player. If they truly don’t want to redshirt, he doesn’t force them to. Believe this happened once in the past with a guy named Jacob Lawson if you remember him. Newman apparently has struggled with some of the concepts that Painter had taught and was behind guys like IT, Sasha, Proctor, and Hunter. Thompson had a really good summer apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INDenizen Posted November 7, 2019 Report Share Posted November 7, 2019 1 minute ago, Stlboiler23 said: No idea honestly. Painter ultimately leaves it up to the player. If they truly don’t want to redshirt, he doesn’t force them to. Believe this happened once in the past with a guy named Jacob Lawson if you remember him. Newman apparently has struggled with some of the concepts that Painter had taught and was behind guys like IT, Sasha, Proctor, and Hunter. Thompson had a really good summer apparently. Thanks again. Great stuff. I have seen Thompson play in person (high school) and was impressed by his game. Very steady demeanor. Reminded me a bit of Phinisee in that regard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stlboiler23 Posted November 7, 2019 Report Share Posted November 7, 2019 Just now, INDenizen said: Thanks again. Great stuff. I have seen Thompson play in person (high school) and was impressed by his game. Very steady demeanor. Reminded me a bit of Phinisee in that regard. IT will be a good one IMO. 3 or 4 inches taller than his brother, more athletic, and more upside too. Just needs to keep getting stronger haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INDenizen Posted November 7, 2019 Report Share Posted November 7, 2019 Just now, Stlboiler23 said: IT will be a good one IMO. 3 or 4 inches taller than his brother, more athletic, and more upside too. Just needs to keep getting stronger haha. Yes, I was going to say, he was pretty stick skinny when I saw him play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stlboiler23 Posted November 7, 2019 Report Share Posted November 7, 2019 7 minutes ago, INDenizen said: Yes, I was going to say, he was pretty stick skinny when I saw him play. He’s put on maybe 10-15 pounds since high school I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jv1972iu Posted November 7, 2019 Report Share Posted November 7, 2019 3 hours ago, Billingsley99 said: Listening to Seth Greenberg and DD about redshirting and they had a great take. In todays game unless a player is injured it's a huge risk to redshirt a player. By the time the 5th year roles around they will have graduated well developed and unless your team is a title contender they become a huge target for a team that is a missing piece away from a title. Really made sense Kentucky seems to like that model. Grab an experienced player to mix in with the freshmen. May have something to do with his misses on elite big guys lately too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FKIM01 Posted November 7, 2019 Report Share Posted November 7, 2019 Just reading between the lines, it sounds like despite their similar rankings and a lot of folks here preferring Newman, Franklin came out of high school much more skilled and college-ready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brass Cannon Posted November 7, 2019 Report Share Posted November 7, 2019 4 hours ago, Billingsley99 said: Listening to Seth Greenberg and DD about redshirting and they had a great take. In todays game unless a player is injured it's a huge risk to redshirt a player. By the time the 5th year roles around they will have graduated well developed and unless your team is a title contender they become a huge target for a team that is a missing piece away from a title. Really made sense Very true. Even bigger risk at Purdue they are trying to make it easier to graduate after 3 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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