hoopsta007 Posted November 16, 2019 Report Share Posted November 16, 2019 This one came down to coaching in the end. CTA doesn’t manage timeouts and clock well and it bit us here. The timeouts we used early weren’t effective or even necessary. Would it have made a difference? Who really knows? The team is improving and we have better talent on both sides of the ball that now give us a chance to compete in these types of games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted November 16, 2019 Report Share Posted November 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, hoopsta007 said: This one came down to coaching in the end. CTA doesn’t manage timeouts and clock well and it bit us here. The timeouts we used early weren’t effective or even necessary. Would it have made a difference? Who really knows? The team is improving and we have better talent on both sides of the ball that now give us a chance to compete in these types of games. Really? Coaching in the end? Christ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobSaccamanno Posted November 16, 2019 Report Share Posted November 16, 2019 4 minutes ago, hoopsta007 said: This one came down to coaching in the end. CTA doesn’t manage timeouts and clock well and it bit us here. The timeouts we used early weren’t effective or even necessary. Would it have made a difference? Who really knows? The team is improving and we have better talent on both sides of the ball that now give us a chance to compete in these types of games. I really thought it came down to having the front seven worn down on their last drive. Their qb kept running RPOs and we fought valiantly but could not get a key stop. But it was death by a thousand cuts. They didn’t totally just gash us. We resisted. But they inched down the field and we couldn’t get the stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leathernecks Posted November 16, 2019 Report Share Posted November 16, 2019 4 minutes ago, hoopsta007 said: This one came down to coaching in the end. CTA doesn’t manage timeouts and clock well and it bit us here. The timeouts we used early weren’t effective or even necessary. Would it have made a difference? Who really knows? The team is improving and we have better talent on both sides of the ball that now give us a chance to compete in these types of games. I don't think it would have made any difference. We would have had a little more time left, but we still would have needed to get an onside kick at the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted November 16, 2019 Report Share Posted November 16, 2019 5 minutes ago, hoopsta007 said: This one came down to coaching in the end. CTA doesn’t manage timeouts and clock well and it bit us here. The timeouts we used early weren’t effective or even necessary. Would it have made a difference? Who really knows? The team is improving and we have better talent on both sides of the ball that now give us a chance to compete in these types of games. How? We used TOs when we needed them. Usage of TOs was a non factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted November 16, 2019 Report Share Posted November 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, rico said: Really? Coaching in the end? Christ. This is what some result to when they simply dont know enough about the topic. Same in basketball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted November 16, 2019 Report Share Posted November 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, BobSaccamanno said: I really thought it came down to having the front seven worn down on their last drive. Their qb kept running RPOs and we fought valiantly but could not get a key stop. But it was death by a thousand cuts. They didn’t totally just gash us. We resisted. But they inched down the field and we couldn’t get the stop. Yep.. although... 2nd and 9 on their 2nd play of the drive and we blitzed Brown perfectly off the edge and he whiffed... would have been 3rd and 11 front their own 24. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy06 Posted November 16, 2019 Report Share Posted November 16, 2019 59 minutes ago, btownqb said: 4 plays... Dropped TD Whops muffed punt PI on PSUs 2nd possession (awful call) The fake punt debacle (no way that was a called fake) Sigh. Overally I'm ok with the way we played. If that's a top 10 team, we're pretty good. Ramsey is so solid. Ellis goodness. OL just couldn't do enough. Add the non call on targeting that resulted in a fumble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted November 16, 2019 Report Share Posted November 16, 2019 Just now, Andy06 said: Add the non call on targeting that resulted in a fumble. True. We would have had the ball at like their 40. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leathernecks Posted November 16, 2019 Report Share Posted November 16, 2019 16 minutes ago, BobSaccamanno said: Did Hendershot looked surprised? I got a call while it was happening and I didn’t rewind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Andy06 Posted November 16, 2019 Report Share Posted November 16, 2019 8 minutes ago, hoopsta007 said: This one came down to coaching in the end. CTA doesn’t manage timeouts and clock well and it bit us here. The timeouts we used early weren’t effective or even necessary. Would it have made a difference? Who really knows? The team is improving and we have better talent on both sides of the ball that now give us a chance to compete in these types of games. The only coaching decision I disagree with was the timeout and then the fake punt. I don't think that was the intended call, but the coaches shouldn't put the team in that situation. Bigger issue was the lack of common sense on replay. Philyor didn't touch the punt. That hit that took him out was 100% targeting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoopsta007 Posted November 16, 2019 Report Share Posted November 16, 2019 9 minutes ago, rico said: Really? Coaching in the end? Christ. 7 minutes ago, btownqb said: How? We used TOs when we needed them. Usage of TOs was a non factor. Two time outs at the end to have an extra 3-4 minutes at the end of the game as opposed to running out of time. We called a timeout to fake a punt. Call another time out on 3rd down to give up a 20 yd gain. Not productive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogue3542 Posted November 16, 2019 Report Share Posted November 16, 2019 1 minute ago, Andy06 said: The only coaching decision I disagree with was the timeout and then the fake punt. I don't think that was the intended call, but the coaches shouldn't put the team in that situation. Bigger issue was the lack of common sense on replay. Philyor didn't touch the punt. That hit that took him out was 100% targeting. But it was never supposed to be a fake punt. The long snapper simply messed up the snap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted November 16, 2019 Report Share Posted November 16, 2019 1 minute ago, hoopsta007 said: Two time outs at the end to have an extra 3-4 minutes at the end of the game as opposed to running out of time. We called a timeout to fake a punt. Call another time out on 3rd down to give up a 20 yd gain. Not productive Lol.. we didnt call a TO fake a punt. We weren't suppose to fake it. This is a pretty lame take honestly. Have a good one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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hoopsta007 Posted November 16, 2019 Report Share Posted November 16, 2019 1 minute ago, btownqb said: Lol.. we didnt call a TO fake a punt. We weren't suppose to fake it. This is a pretty lame take honestly. Have a good one. I will. Same to you. My point being is if you are going to punt then get your punt team out or take a delay of game. Time outs are a commodity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steubenhoosier Posted November 16, 2019 Report Share Posted November 16, 2019 5 minutes ago, Andy06 said: The only coaching decision I disagree with was the timeout and then the fake punt. I don't think that was the intended call, but the coaches shouldn't put the team in that situation. Bigger issue was the lack of common sense on replay. Philyor didn't touch the punt. That hit that took him out was 100% targeting. Maybe it did or maybe it didn’t hit Whop. The real question is, what was he doing even being close to that ball? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted November 16, 2019 Report Share Posted November 16, 2019 Just now, hoopsta007 said: I will. Same to you. My point being is if you are going to punt then get your punt team out or take a delay of game. Time outs are a commodity. Or you can talk about it in the huddle. Do you coach? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leathernecks Posted November 16, 2019 Report Share Posted November 16, 2019 9 minutes ago, hoopsta007 said: Two time outs at the end to have an extra 3-4 minutes at the end of the game as opposed to running out of time. We called a timeout to fake a punt. Call another time out on 3rd down to give up a 20 yd gain. Not productive 2 timeouts at the end would have only saved about 1 minute, not 3-4. We still would have needed the onside kick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoopsta007 Posted November 16, 2019 Report Share Posted November 16, 2019 1 minute ago, btownqb said: Or you can talk about it in the huddle. Do you coach? 1 minute ago, btownqb said: Or you can talk about it in the huddle. Do you coach? Coached multiple sports. Xs and Os May be different but you have to be organized. Sidenote is that I think on the whole Allen is a great job! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted November 16, 2019 Report Share Posted November 16, 2019 27 minutes ago, rico said: Really? Coaching in the end? Christ. Well I bet if Christ was our coach we wouldn’t lose lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierinbham Posted November 16, 2019 Report Share Posted November 16, 2019 Moral victories suck and count for nothing. But if you can't see the trajectory we are on as a program, I don't know what to say. Everyone knows on the road we have to be 2 scores better; we were 1 score better. Think of the fact that we are a couple plays/calls away from being 9-1. Gotta like how things are progressing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted November 16, 2019 Report Share Posted November 16, 2019 1 minute ago, dgambill said: Well I bet if Christ was our coach we wouldn’t lose lol. Hmmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted November 16, 2019 Report Share Posted November 16, 2019 A lot of what ifs. Proud of how we fought back. That dropped TD pass loomed large. Had that been caught we might be up 1 and PSU kicked a fg on any of the 4th downs...maybe even missing the longer one and we would had a shot at the end. Muffed punt etc...lots of things happen to turn the game. We just didn’t make enough plays but no doubt we were good enough to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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