DC2345 Posted October 2, 2020 Report Share Posted October 2, 2020 1 minute ago, Seeking6 said: I think Trevor will be able to command 1 year $30M deal this off season from someone. Since the Cubs don't like to hit....I'd take Darvish, Bauer, and Hendricks and roll the dice next year. I 100% guarantee if he takes a 1 year deal the Reds will match just about any offer. They won't let him go to the Cubs unless he is just dead set on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted October 2, 2020 Report Share Posted October 2, 2020 6 minutes ago, DC2345 said: I 100% guarantee if he takes a 1 year deal the Reds will match just about any offer. They won't let him go to the Cubs unless he is just dead set on that. Understand and money usually wins over anything but in this case I feel like Bauer is starting to think about titles/legacy,etc.....so he'll probably choose a team that he believes has the best chance of winning a title next year. I don't believe that's the Reds....and if the Cubs blow things up like I think they will I don't think it will be us either. He's a LA kid. I imagine if one of the local teams chased hard he'd go there. If I were a pitcher the Dodgers and Padres lineups look awful attractive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2345 Posted October 2, 2020 Report Share Posted October 2, 2020 1 minute ago, Seeking6 said: Understand and money usually wins over anything but in this case I feel like Bauer is starting to think about titles/legacy,etc.....so he'll probably choose a team that he believes has the best chance of winning a title next year. I don't believe that's the Reds....and if the Cubs blow things up like I think they will I don't think it will be us either. He's a LA kid. I imagine if one of the local teams chased hard he'd go there. If I were a pitcher the Dodgers and Padres lineups look awful attractive. There is more to it than that with Bauer. There are a lot of teams he won't consider based on the way those teams develop and teach pitching. The Reds fit him perfectly in that aspect plus I've said it before but Derek Johnson and Kyle Boddy will play a big factor as long as the money is close. If the Reds can fix the timely hitting they aren't far off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted October 2, 2020 Report Share Posted October 2, 2020 3 hours ago, DC2345 said: Reds Offseason to do list 1) Sign Trevor Bauer 2) Aquire a SS on a 1 or 2 year deal and let Garcia start in AAA (Gregorious, Simmons, or Semien) 3) Upgrade the catcher spot with Tyler Stephenson 4) Figure out the OF situation 5) Have a defensive first baseman on the roster They need to upgrade CF, LF, SS, C and get at least one more quality LH relief pitcher 1B) Votto- actually needs to be a DH if they keep the rule 2B) Moustakas SS) ? 3B) Suarez LF) Shogo ? CF) Senzel ? RF) Castallnos- if he does not opt out DH- Winker if the keep the rule C) Stephenson ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted October 2, 2020 Report Share Posted October 2, 2020 2 hours ago, Seeking6 said: Understand and money usually wins over anything but in this case I feel like Bauer is starting to think about titles/legacy,etc.....so he'll probably choose a team that he believes has the best chance of winning a title next year. I don't believe that's the Reds....and if the Cubs blow things up like I think they will I don't think it will be us either. He's a LA kid. I imagine if one of the local teams chased hard he'd go there. If I were a pitcher the Dodgers and Padres lineups look awful attractive. I think he will go to either the Padres or Angels or stay with the Reds. The one advanatage the Reds have is that Bauer's pitching trainer is the pitching cordinator for the Reds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted October 2, 2020 Report Share Posted October 2, 2020 1 hour ago, IU Scott said: They need to upgrade CF, LF, SS, C and get at least one more quality LH relief pitcher 1B) Votto- actually needs to be a DH if they keep the rule 2B) Moustakas SS) ? 3B) Suarez LF) Shogo ? CF) Senzel ? RF) Castallnos- if he does not opt out DH- Winker if the keep the rule C) Stephenson ? I say: 1B Suarez 2B Senzrel SS ? 3b Moose C Stephenson The OF can be played however and Winker needs AB's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted October 2, 2020 Report Share Posted October 2, 2020 1 hour ago, IU Scott said: actually needs to be a DH if they keep the rule Sacrilege! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted October 2, 2020 Report Share Posted October 2, 2020 As far as Bauer, if not a Red, I can see the Angels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted October 2, 2020 Report Share Posted October 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, IUFLA said: Sacrilege! Easy Scott! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted October 2, 2020 Report Share Posted October 2, 2020 3 minutes ago, rico said: I say: 1B Suarez 2B Senzrel SS ? 3b Moose C Stephenson The OF can be played however and Winker needs AB's I know Winker had that hot streak but I am still not sold on him being a full time starter. After he hit those homeruns he started to think he was a big power hitter. I don't know how many times he swung so hard he fell to the grown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted October 2, 2020 Report Share Posted October 2, 2020 1 minute ago, rico said: Easy Scott! Not saying I totally like it but I actually did not mind the rule Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted October 2, 2020 Report Share Posted October 2, 2020 Just now, rico said: Easy Scott! My objection isn't even over being old school... It's about "dumbing down" another sport to make it more "understandable" and "exciting." The strategy of the game is being lost to some people's craving of offense which as of now is a homer or a K. I've always loved the nuances of baseball...and they're being negated, little by little... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2345 Posted October 2, 2020 Report Share Posted October 2, 2020 1 hour ago, IU Scott said: They need to upgrade CF, LF, SS, C and get at least one more quality LH relief pitcher 1B) Votto- actually needs to be a DH if they keep the rule 2B) Moustakas SS) ? 3B) Suarez LF) Shogo ? CF) Senzel ? RF) Castallnos- if he does not opt out DH- Winker if the keep the rule C) Stephenson ? I agree Votto should be the DH but CF and LF aren't changing. SS needs to find at least a one year upgrade and C is Stephenson plus a veteran backup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2345 Posted October 2, 2020 Report Share Posted October 2, 2020 3 minutes ago, IUFLA said: My objection isn't even over being old school... It's about "dumbing down" another sport to make it more "understandable" and "exciting." The strategy of the game is being lost to some people's craving of offense which as of now is a homer or a K. I've always loved the nuances of baseball...and they're being negated, little by little... Sorry, but the DH needs to stay. Nobody wants a pitcher to get hurt while batting and they usually strikeout. It also allows some players to extend their careers and it's stupid that the AL is the only league that gets that benefit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted October 2, 2020 Report Share Posted October 2, 2020 2 hours ago, DC2345 said: Sorry, but the DH needs to stay. Nobody wants a pitcher to get hurt while batting and they usually strikeout. It also allows some players to extend their careers and it's stupid that the AL is the only league that gets that benefit. Your opinion...I disagree... The only people I know who want the DH in both leagues don't totally understand the game and the strategy within it very well...Using injury as an excuse is lame...They can get injured in a myriad of ways on a baseball field, including getting hit by a foul ball into the dugout. And there have been some very good hitting pitchers...as for the strikeouts, seems to me the everyday players are making quite the habit of that...A couple by the pitcher doesn't matter one way or the other... Bobby Bonds set a strikeout record in 1970 with 189...It was broken in 2004 (Adam Dunn)...Since then it has been surpassed 31 times...Yeah, buddy...exciting baseball... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted October 2, 2020 Report Share Posted October 2, 2020 42 minutes ago, DC2345 said: I agree Votto should be the DH but CF and LF aren't changing. SS needs to find at least a one year upgrade and C is Stephenson plus a veteran backup. My problem with CF is Senzel never stays healthy so it is hard to rely on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted October 2, 2020 Report Share Posted October 2, 2020 1 minute ago, IU Scott said: My problem with CF is Senzel never stays healthy so it is hard to rely on him. Personally, I think Senzel should be on trade block. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATX_sig Posted October 2, 2020 Report Share Posted October 2, 2020 I don't think the DH is going away. I am somewhat disappointed in the Reds like everyone else. They picked by even the experts as trendy picks. They seem like a young team with some nice vets and a great staff if they can keep Bauer. I'm not saying don't make any changes but I hate to see them panic with some of the young guys based on a strange 60 game season that included 2 spring trainings and no minor leagues and a few rules experiments. At this point I am more disappointed with Bell who has not impressed me at all and the coaching the staff. The hitting was just atrocious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted October 2, 2020 Report Share Posted October 2, 2020 1 hour ago, rico said: Personally, I think Senzel should be on trade block. Probably wouldn't get to much for him. This is the problem with the Reds that they draft these guys high and they don't develop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted October 2, 2020 Report Share Posted October 2, 2020 58 minutes ago, ATX_sig said: I don't think the DH is going away. I am somewhat disappointed in the Reds like everyone else. They picked by even the experts as trendy picks. They seem like a young team with some nice vets and a great staff if they can keep Bauer. I'm not saying don't make any changes but I hate to see them panic with some of the young guys based on a strange 60 game season that included 2 spring trainings and no minor leagues and a few rules experiments. At this point I am more disappointed with Bell who has not impressed me at all and the coaching the staff. The hitting was just atrocious. I don't think the DH is going away anytime soon myself, Doesn't mean I have to like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted October 2, 2020 Report Share Posted October 2, 2020 1 minute ago, IU Scott said: Probably wouldn't get to much for him. This is the problem with the Reds that they draft these guys high and they don't develop. How do we know is isn't developed? Hell, he's hardly on the field Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted October 2, 2020 Report Share Posted October 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, rico said: How do we know is isn't developed? Hell, he's hardly on the field I just see these other organizations like the Padres and the Braves bring guys up who contribute right away and become stars. On the other hand the Reds guys they draft high seem to not come through the organization very quickly if at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted October 2, 2020 Report Share Posted October 2, 2020 6 minutes ago, IU Scott said: I just see these other organizations like the Padres and the Braves bring guys up who contribute right away and become stars. On the other hand the Reds guys they draft high seem to not come through the organization very quickly if at all. Or they have already been traded away... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted October 2, 2020 Report Share Posted October 2, 2020 Cubs in trouble... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted October 2, 2020 Report Share Posted October 2, 2020 NL Central Champs and early exit. Seems like a trend. 9 outs left for Cubs. I'm usually not a self defeatist type but this was brutal today. So many chances to score and nada and Darvish makes one mistake and ball game to this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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