FW_Hoosier Posted February 7, 2020 Report Share Posted February 7, 2020 23 minutes ago, Hoosierhoopster said: I wasn't ranking the B1G teams, I was talking about the idiotic metrics. Look at PU's metrics. Seriously, it's absurd. I really don't care if people take a negative outlook and see our W's as somehow worse than our competitors' W's. But the way the metrics are being used is just stupid here. If I wanted to dig deeper into comparing our and the other teams' respective records, it would be pretty easy to make the case we should be higher 'ranked'. Just a quick glance at Wisconsin's schedule, for example. Lost at home to St. Mary's. Lost 62-52 to Richmond. Richmond? Lost 59-50 to New Mexico. Lost at NC State 69-54. This is better than IU? So they definitely started playing better, but lost at home to Illinois 71-70 (much like our MD loss), beat MD by a basket at home, lost at MSU by 12, lost at PU 70-51, lost at Minn 70-52... OK. Yeah, I agree that KenPom is screwy this year, and I’m not really interested in the margin of victory conversation... It matters for perception over the course of a season, but on Selection Sunday, a win is a win and a loss is a loss. A neutral court loss to St. Mary’s is not a bad loss whatsoever. And Richmond’s NET ranking kind of surprised me (#58, higher than both UCONN and ND.) A neutral court loss to them isn’t all that bad either. Neither is a true road loss to #61 NC State. Their loss to New Mexico is pretty bad any way you slice it, but it’s one neutral court game in November. The bottom line is Wisconsin had a much more challenging non-conference schedule than IU, and they’re probably going to get rewarded for that, rightfully so. They also have more quality wins than IU and no bad losses in conference play, and then you have the beatdown they gave us earlier this year... I don’t see any way you can justify putting IU ahead of them just because we’ve had a softer schedule. With only one home win over a tournament team in non-conference play and only two quality wins in conference play thus far, IU is going to have to get to .500 in the conference to be feeling comfortable on Selection Sunday. 9-11 might still get us in, but that will be a gift. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierhoopster Posted February 7, 2020 Report Share Posted February 7, 2020 2 hours ago, FW_Hoosier said: Yeah, I agree that KenPom is screwy this year, and I’m not really interested in the margin of victory conversation... It matters for perception over the course of a season, but on Selection Sunday, a win is a win and a loss is a loss. A neutral court loss to St. Mary’s is not a bad loss whatsoever. And Richmond’s NET ranking kind of surprised me (#58, higher than both UCONN and ND.) A neutral court loss to them isn’t all that bad either. Neither is a true road loss to #61 NC State. Their loss to New Mexico is pretty bad any way you slice it, but it’s one neutral court game in November. The bottom line is Wisconsin had a much more challenging non-conference schedule than IU, and they’re probably going to get rewarded for that, rightfully so. They also have more quality wins than IU and no bad losses in conference play, and then you have the beatdown they gave us earlier this year... I don’t see any way you can justify putting IU ahead of them just because we’ve had a softer schedule. With only one home win over a tournament team in non-conference play and only two quality wins in conference play thus far, IU is going to have to get to .500 in the conference to be feeling comfortable on Selection Sunday. 9-11 might still get us in, but that will be a gift. Agree with your last sentence -- didn't mean to indicate otherwise. We still have lots of business to take care of, I'm just saying at this point in the season we look like, and should be, a tourney team. I see Wiscy's record / schedule a little differently but I think we see things pretty similarly regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milehiiu Posted February 7, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2020 Being told to look for Trey Kaufman in the stands on Saturday. Along with Anthony Leal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted February 7, 2020 Report Share Posted February 7, 2020 3 hours ago, Billingsley99 said: Did anyone hear Butch Carter on Dakich? I did not get to hear it. Nope but if Dakich is having Carter on his show that's all you need to know about Dakich. Carter has been a twerp and dbag for years. Speaking of Dakich. He's got this victim thing down now. Caught a bit of his show the other day (no other options in Indy now) and now he said his wife was curious if Indiana is some Dark or Deep State I believe the word he used because callers were calling in and voicing their opinions on him. Yep....Dan. You criticize and go out of your way to rip any and everything IU, players, coaches (even though the current coach got your daughter a gig) and you now cry poor me??? Can't wait for the day he loses his gig.....that day is coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FW_Hoosier Posted February 8, 2020 Report Share Posted February 8, 2020 1 hour ago, Hoosierhoopster said: Agree with your last sentence -- didn't mean to indicate otherwise. We still have lots of business to take care of, I'm just saying at this point in the season we look like, and should be, a tourney team. I see Wiscy's record / schedule a little differently but I think we see things pretty similarly regardless. Yeah, I think we’d probably be in if they seeded the tournament today. But we need at least 5 more quality wins to be in a good position by the end of the season. The 3 we have right now puts us a little bit behind the eight ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy1987 Posted February 8, 2020 Report Share Posted February 8, 2020 So is there a list of recruits that are attending today? Would love to see a list of former players coming as well. Go Hoosiers!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierJax Posted February 8, 2020 Report Share Posted February 8, 2020 40 minutes ago, Indy1987 said: So is there a list of recruits that are attending today? Would love to see a list of former players coming as well. Go Hoosiers!!! Kaufman, Leal and Carter Whitt are names I've heard so far...its hard to say about former players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milehiiu Posted February 8, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2020 8 minutes ago, HoosierJax said: Kaufman, Leal and Carter Whitt are names I've heard so far...its hard to say about former players Wittman, Thomas, Turner, Woodson, to name a few former players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milehiiu Posted February 8, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2020 Oh, I meant to mention that IU is hosting a private reception for Coach Knight and his former players . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbmhoosier Posted February 8, 2020 Report Share Posted February 8, 2020 19 minutes ago, milehiiu said: Wittman, Thomas, Turner, Woodson, to name a few former players. I would think Bailey and Cheaney come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierJax Posted February 8, 2020 Report Share Posted February 8, 2020 30 minutes ago, milehiiu said: Oh, I meant to mention that IU is hosting a private reception for Coach Knight and his former players . Before or after game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbmhoosier Posted February 8, 2020 Report Share Posted February 8, 2020 6 minutes ago, HoosierJax said: Before or after game I would assume before. He has to head to Indy for the Pacers game after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milehiiu Posted February 8, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2020 9 minutes ago, HoosierJax said: Before or after game All I got was IU hosting a reception. Having said that..... my guess, and it is purely a guess, is that they will be watching the first half on tv, and then move over to AH just before half time for the ceremony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milehiiu Posted February 8, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2020 27 minutes ago, dbmhoosier said: I would think Bailey and Cheaney come. I have not heard their names mentioned. Not saying they won't be there. Just that from some of the names given me, those two were not mentioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbmhoosier Posted February 8, 2020 Report Share Posted February 8, 2020 5 minutes ago, milehiiu said: I have not heard their names mentioned. Not saying they won't be there. Just that from some of the names given me, those two were not mentioned. Doesn’t Damon still live in Bedford? I can’t imagine he would miss this opportunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milehiiu Posted February 8, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2020 4 minutes ago, dbmhoosier said: Doesn’t Damon still live in Bedford? I can’t imagine he would miss this opportunity. Damon is co-owner of a distribution company, located in Bedford. Yes, it would be nice if he is able to make it. Again, his name has not come up to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billingsley99 Posted February 8, 2020 Report Share Posted February 8, 2020 24 minutes ago, dbmhoosier said: Doesn’t Damon still live in Bedford? I can’t imagine he would miss this opportunity. You would think do but I have heard his name. Hearing several from 75 76 teams. I think we will see players from all 3 decades Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierJax Posted February 8, 2020 Report Share Posted February 8, 2020 9 minutes ago, dbmhoosier said: Doesn’t Damon still live in Bedford? I can’t imagine he would miss this opportunity. Yes...Heltonville/Bedford Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbmhoosier Posted February 8, 2020 Report Share Posted February 8, 2020 4 minutes ago, Billingsley99 said: You would think do but I have heard his name. Hearing several from 75 76 teams. I think we will see players from all 3 decades I hope Kent isn’t wearing Gold & Black. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13th&Jackson Posted February 8, 2020 Report Share Posted February 8, 2020 This is one of the highest pressure scenarios that a team could face today. Hope the Hoosiers respond. PU can come in pretty loose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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