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17 minutes ago, btownqb said:

Divas don't make football players, Kenny Moore. You signed the contract.  

Is he underpaid? Probably. I don't remember though in the history of missing OTA's a player on the sidelines helping guys,etc.....just not practicing.

Hopefully they can find a common ground...but Ballard isn't a guy who gives in nor does he have to do so. Gave him great $ a few years ago.

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33 minutes ago, Seeking6 said:

Is he underpaid? Probably. I don't remember though in the history of missing OTA's a player on the sidelines helping guys,etc.....just not practicing.

Hopefully they can find a common ground...but Ballard isn't a guy who gives in nor does he have to do so. Gave him great $ a few years ago.

and... he signed the contract! haha 

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4 hours ago, Steubenhoosier said:

Per the NFL network, after 17 seasons playing for 9 different teams, Fitzmagic is retiring.

Hate to see him go. Always enjoyed how he could rally a team.

Rumor has it that Fitz has gotten the highest score ever on the Wonderlic test.

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And, the flip side.  

Lowest Wonderlic scores in NFL history

6 — Vince Young (quarterback)

Coming off a National Championship at Texas, expectations were high for Young coming into the league, though some were concerned about his low Wonderlic score. Still, the Titans gambled on him by taking him third overall in the 2006 NFL Draft. The gamble didn't pay off, though. In six seasons, Young threw 46 touchdowns and 51 interceptions.

6 — Frank Gore (running back)

Gore's poor Wonderic score might have had a negative impact on his draft stock, as he was selected 65th overall in the third round by the 49ers in 2005. It doesn't look like it ever affected his productivity, though; he's accumulated 15,347 yards and 79 touchdowns in 15 seasons. He currently stands third in all-time rushing yards in NFL history, just 290 yards behind Walter Payton.

6 — Oscar Davenport (quarterback)

Davenport was projected to be a late-round prospect with developmental upside in 1999. Then the North Carolina QB scored a 6 on his Wonderlic test and went undrafted, never making it onto an NFL roster.

5 — Ed Prather (safety) 

Another player who never played a down in the NFL, "Pig" Prather had a bad reputation for blowing coverages, and to NFL GMs, his poor Wonderlic scores seemed to reflect poor decision-making skills on the field as he went undrafted in 2001.

4 — Darren Davis (running back)

Davis rushed for 3,763 yards in four seasons at Iowa State. Then he scored a 4 on the Wonderlic exam at the 2000 NFL Combine and went undrafted, eventually going on to play four seasons in the Canadian Football League before being cut.

 

4* — Morris Claiborne

While most players with low Wonderlic scores have seen teams shy away, the Cowboys actually traded up to get Claiborne with the sixth overall pick in the 2012 NFL Draft. In eight seasons, he's managed seven interceptions and 265 tackles. He sat out the first four games of the 2019 season due to violating the league's substance abuse policy, but still won his first Super Bowl ring as a member of the Chiefs despite being inactive for the game.

Claiborne's score should come with an asterisk, as he was later reported to be diagnosed with a learning disability.

MORE: NFL mock draft 2020

 

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14 minutes ago, 5fouls said:

And, the flip side.  

Lowest Wonderlic scores in NFL history

6 — Vince Young (quarterback)

Coming off a National Championship at Texas, expectations were high for Young coming into the league, though some were concerned about his low Wonderlic score. Still, the Titans gambled on him by taking him third overall in the 2006 NFL Draft. The gamble didn't pay off, though. In six seasons, Young threw 46 touchdowns and 51 interceptions.

6 — Frank Gore (running back)

Gore's poor Wonderic score might have had a negative impact on his draft stock, as he was selected 65th overall in the third round by the 49ers in 2005. It doesn't look like it ever affected his productivity, though; he's accumulated 15,347 yards and 79 touchdowns in 15 seasons. He currently stands third in all-time rushing yards in NFL history, just 290 yards behind Walter Payton.

6 — Oscar Davenport (quarterback)

Davenport was projected to be a late-round prospect with developmental upside in 1999. Then the North Carolina QB scored a 6 on his Wonderlic test and went undrafted, never making it onto an NFL roster.

5 — Ed Prather (safety) 

Another player who never played a down in the NFL, "Pig" Prather had a bad reputation for blowing coverages, and to NFL GMs, his poor Wonderlic scores seemed to reflect poor decision-making skills on the field as he went undrafted in 2001.

4 — Darren Davis (running back)

Davis rushed for 3,763 yards in four seasons at Iowa State. Then he scored a 4 on the Wonderlic exam at the 2000 NFL Combine and went undrafted, eventually going on to play four seasons in the Canadian Football League before being cut.

 

4* — Morris Claiborne

While most players with low Wonderlic scores have seen teams shy away, the Cowboys actually traded up to get Claiborne with the sixth overall pick in the 2012 NFL Draft. In eight seasons, he's managed seven interceptions and 265 tackles. He sat out the first four games of the 2019 season due to violating the league's substance abuse policy, but still won his first Super Bowl ring as a member of the Chiefs despite being inactive for the game.

Claiborne's score should come with an asterisk, as he was later reported to be diagnosed with a learning disability.

MORE: NFL mock draft 2020

 

Something can still be said for having a strong back and being tough. Gore showed that. Absolute workhorse. 

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