btownqb Posted November 7, 2022 Report Share Posted November 7, 2022 1 minute ago, IU Scott said: John Fox is a consultant which wouldn't limit him where he couldn't be HC Do you know if John Fox wanted that role? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2345 Posted November 7, 2022 Report Share Posted November 7, 2022 1 minute ago, IU Scott said: John Fox is a consultant which wouldn't limit him where he couldn't be HC He could. Saturday has been a consultant as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted November 7, 2022 Report Share Posted November 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, btownqb said: Well Matt Ryan sucks, so that was a good move. Marcus Brady sucked at his job too, so good move. If coaches don't agree with good moves, idk what to tell them. "now bringing in Jeff Saturday" meaning what? I'm going to push back on you a ton here man, especially given your past defense of Ballard and current unwillingness to say he needs to go. You've very carefully danced around saying that from what I can tell. Matt Ryan was worlds better than any QB on the roster. Yesterday showed that. Most of his turnovers, the vast majority, were the fault of the offensive line. He had thrown like 3 picks all year that were truly bad on his part, most were due to unblocked defenders or tipped balls. I'm not sure how you can say Marcus Brady sucked with a straight face. Coming into the season he was a guy talked about as a future head coach, and he wasn't the person calling plays. Our offense in the one game without him completely regressed. Now I don't know if those two moves were made by Ballard or Irsay, but either way, neither made our team better. Frank sucked and needed to go, but every move so far from my perspective has been scapegoating the real problem, which is Chris Ballard has built a shitty roster and completely whiffed several times in the past few years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted November 7, 2022 Report Share Posted November 7, 2022 1 minute ago, DC2345 said: The Saturday move is interesting and won’t affect any future hires unless he proves to be a viable HC. Irsay has only stepped in because of Ballard and Reich’s incompetence. Not worried about this year but how this can effect who we can get in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted November 7, 2022 Report Share Posted November 7, 2022 1 minute ago, btownqb said: We aren't a stable organization and CLEARLY there is an immense amount of incompetence on the staff. I wouldn't be surprised if they wanted an "outside" guy to come in and objectivity look at things. Also, Saturday was a decent player... maybe he can help with our issues upfront? I just cannot believe as bad as this has been anyone would think twice about this move. I think I would rather have Saturday as HC and Sam at QB then what we started the season with at those spots. I mean I agree with this only because I hope we lose out, which we have a decent shot at now. This is a clown show for the rest of the year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted November 7, 2022 Report Share Posted November 7, 2022 1 minute ago, DC2345 said: He could. Saturday has been a consultant as well. But no coaching experience Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2345 Posted November 7, 2022 Report Share Posted November 7, 2022 I’m starting to think this is trending towards Manning taking over the front office of the team which is what Irsay has wanted for a while. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2345 Posted November 7, 2022 Report Share Posted November 7, 2022 Just now, IU Scott said: Not worried about this year but how this can effect who we can get in the future. It won’t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted November 7, 2022 Report Share Posted November 7, 2022 1 minute ago, DC2345 said: I’m starting to think this is trending towards Manning taking over the front office of the team which is what Irsay has wanted for a while. I think Manning is more interested in ownership and Irsay probably won't want to give him some ownership Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2345 Posted November 7, 2022 Report Share Posted November 7, 2022 Just now, IU Scott said: I think Manning is more interested in ownership and Irsay probably won't want to give him some ownership It’s been on the table in the past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted November 7, 2022 Report Share Posted November 7, 2022 3 minutes ago, IU Scott said: But no coaching experience Just not overly relevant right now. He is a competent individual and objective, or ideally, is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted November 7, 2022 Report Share Posted November 7, 2022 Kenny Moore can kick rocks too. Him wanting a new contract before the year is funny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted November 7, 2022 Report Share Posted November 7, 2022 11 minutes ago, DC2345 said: I’m starting to think this is trending towards Manning taking over the front office of the team which is what Irsay has wanted for a while. Why do you think it's trending that way? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted November 7, 2022 Report Share Posted November 7, 2022 Surely Matt Ryan will just retire, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted November 7, 2022 Report Share Posted November 7, 2022 8 minutes ago, btownqb said: Surely Matt Ryan will just retire, right? Why would he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted November 7, 2022 Report Share Posted November 7, 2022 Just now, KoB2011 said: Why would he? To spend time with kids/family, move on with his career, to not be considered a backup, multiple reasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2345 Posted November 7, 2022 Report Share Posted November 7, 2022 11 minutes ago, btownqb said: Why do you think it's trending that way? Wayne’s been brought back and now Saturday. Irsay has wanted Manning back for a while. I just have a hunch Irsay is going to offer him some onwnership/president of football ops role again in the near future. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted November 7, 2022 Report Share Posted November 7, 2022 1 minute ago, btownqb said: To spend time with kids/family, move on with his career, to not be considered a backup, multiple reasons. I wouldn't walk away from that amount of money if I were Matt Ryan. Maybe if we cut him and he is getting paid anyway, but I'm not letting the Colts off the hook for free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted November 7, 2022 Report Share Posted November 7, 2022 8 minutes ago, KoB2011 said: I wouldn't walk away from that amount of money if I were Matt Ryan. Maybe if we cut him and he is getting paid anyway, but I'm not letting the Colts off the hook for free. Then we would have to cut him. The dead cap would be well worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted November 7, 2022 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2022 @btownqb 's new favorite song... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted November 7, 2022 Report Share Posted November 7, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, rico said: @btownqb 's new favorite song... seems like a song my dad would like lol... other than that, I don't understand the reference Edited November 7, 2022 by btownqb 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted November 7, 2022 Report Share Posted November 7, 2022 1 hour ago, DC2345 said: Wayne’s been brought back and now Saturday. Irsay has wanted Manning back for a while. I just have a hunch Irsay is going to offer him some onwnership/president of football ops role again in the near future. OC/QB coach Manning OL coach Tarik Glenn WR coach Wayne TE coach Clark RB coach Edgerin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13th&Jackson Posted November 7, 2022 Report Share Posted November 7, 2022 3 hours ago, KoB2011 said: Agree to disagree. He has zero head coaching experience and wasn't a formal part of the Colts organization 2 hours ago. That's not typically something stable organizations do when bringing in an interim leader. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted November 7, 2022 Report Share Posted November 7, 2022 4 hours ago, DC2345 said: Wayne’s been brought back and now Saturday. Irsay has wanted Manning back for a while. I just have a hunch Irsay is going to offer him some onwnership/president of football ops role again in the near future. I cannot see any possible scenario where Irsay would give up any % of ownership. Just my 2 cents, knowing 1 person pretty darn close to the situation.....however the Saints would be an option. Gayle Benson has made succession plans to make sure that any possible owner would never move the team. I could see Peyton stepping in there for sure. Either way. Just a strange series of moves. Organization has been in chase mode ever since Luck bolted. Maybe Irsay is just finally at the point where he knows once again it's time to tank and find a QB in the draft. Colts aren't beating the Chiefs or Bills or Dolphins for that matter anytime soon. Tank and rebuild, refocus for 24. PS...if the Colts are in tank mode for my Bears brethren. Buckner would look awesome in a Bears uniform. We have the most cap $, position of need.....and Colts might want to unload his salary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted November 7, 2022 Report Share Posted November 7, 2022 Conversation between Irsay and his hiring consultant. Irsay - "Who is the best potential hire out there?" Consultant - "I'll let you know this Saturday" Irsay heard - "I'll tell you now, it's Saturday" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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