loviubb Posted February 10, 2020 Report Share Posted February 10, 2020 I have not said much since the game yesterday. Very disappointed with the effort. But I still think CAM needs another year (If what some people have said about the Admin). I still trust CRK saying CAM can coach but IU fans have to be patience which (we are and are not) we have not been relevant for so long and yet we still CARE about IU BB. I long for the days when teams didn't want to play at IU. I am starting to lean to the CAM is over his head group but I still think 1 full recruiting cycle and if after that that we need to move on. I also think he needs to play his players and pee on those that don't want to represent IUBB Really thought we were turning the corner a couple of games ago but very disappointed in STAFF AND PLAYERS the last 2 weeks. IF YOU ARE NOT ALL IN FOR IUBB THEN LEAVE IU THIS INCLUDES THE ADMINISTRATION!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapnRon Posted February 10, 2020 Report Share Posted February 10, 2020 1 minute ago, loviubb said: I have not said much since the game yesterday. Very disappointed with the effort. But I still think CAM needs another year (If what some people have said about the Admin). I still trust CRK saying CAM can coach but IU fans have to be patience which (we are and are not) we have not been relevant for so long and yet we still CARE about IU BB. I long for the days when teams didn't want to play at IU. I am starting to lean to the CAM is over his head group but I still think 1 full recruiting cycle and if after that that we need to move on. I also think he needs to play his players and pee on those that don't want to represent IUBB Really thought we were turning the corner a couple of games ago but very disappointed in STAFF AND PLAYERS the last 2 weeks. IF YOU ARE NOT ALL IN FOR IUBB THEN LEAVE IU THIS INCLUDES THE ADMINISTRATION!!! R Kelly? Is that you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loviubb Posted February 10, 2020 Report Share Posted February 10, 2020 3 minutes ago, CapnRon said: R Kelly? Is that you? NO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDB Posted February 10, 2020 Report Share Posted February 10, 2020 3 hours ago, IU Scott said: Why can't the fan base stop being one of the problems because like you said they eat them alive. Why can't the fans actually let the coaches do their job without having to worry about the fan base at every turn. Scott, this probably happens at most schools. I live in Ames Iowa and the fans are livid with Steve Prohm the past two years. There is a 164 page thread on why he must go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brass Cannon Posted February 10, 2020 Report Share Posted February 10, 2020 1 hour ago, CapnRon said: You clearly are part of the problem. Because I don’t live in a fantasy land? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapnRon Posted February 10, 2020 Report Share Posted February 10, 2020 7 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said: Because I don’t live in a fantasy land? Nope, that's not it. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUCrazy2 Posted February 10, 2020 Report Share Posted February 10, 2020 1 hour ago, IU Scott said: If they want to make a change I will back it but you are naïve if you think we will bring in anyone who is a major upgrade. Can you give me the lotto numbers for next week? If not you, maybe BEKA can. Seriously, you never know unless you throw the offer out there. And those NBA guys may be willing to leave if the price is right...$7 million a year speaks volumes. That is nearly double the current salary of Stevens and it is $3 million more than Donovan is making. That would get their attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brass Cannon Posted February 10, 2020 Report Share Posted February 10, 2020 36 minutes ago, CapnRon said: Nope, that's not it. lol Apparently it is if you think a coach who has shown little to no improvement in 3 years is going to finally figure it out. Hell Tom Crean missed the tourney year 3 but his team jumped over 100 spots in Kenpom in year 3. Archie is possibly going to finish worse in advanced analytics between years 2-3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbmhoosier Posted February 10, 2020 Report Share Posted February 10, 2020 7 minutes ago, IUCrazy2 said: Can you give me the lotto numbers for next week? If not you, maybe BEKA can. Seriously, you never know unless you throw the offer out there. And those NBA guys may be willing to leave if the price is right...$7 million a year speaks volumes. That is nearly double the current salary of Stevens and it is $3 million more than Donovan is making. That would get their attention. You never know until you ask. I think if we throw $8M a year out a big fish would bite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapnRon Posted February 10, 2020 Report Share Posted February 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said: Apparently it is if you think a coach who has shown little to no improvement in 3 years is going to finally figure it out. Hell Tom Crean missed the tourney year 3 but his team jumped over 100 spots in Kenpom in year 3. Archie is possibly going to finish worse in advanced analytics between years 2-3 Nope, not it either. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moyeneeded Posted February 10, 2020 Report Share Posted February 10, 2020 1 hour ago, FW_Hoosier said: Common sense. IU would be able to offer him much more money and a higher profile, which would be huge for a spotlight hog like him. What’s your source that he wouldn’t? And if he could win in the Big Ten and the tournament, he would absolutely be the guy we want running the program. I’m not 100% sure he’d be a home run hire, but at this point I would take him over Archie. Dude can coach though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapnRon Posted February 10, 2020 Report Share Posted February 10, 2020 3 minutes ago, dbmhoosier said: You never know until you ask. I think if we throw $8M a year out a big fish would bite. I don't have much faith that the current administration would be willing to spend that kind of money, unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cbp4IU Posted February 10, 2020 Report Share Posted February 10, 2020 Let’s say IU loses 2-3 guys to transfers or such. I wouldn’t mind if we find a grad transfer PG to push Phinisee. A grad transfer like Ziesloft. Then another grad transfer either another 3 point specialist or a big who could give IU 14-16 minutes a game of solid defense. (Just in case TJD and Brunk) get in foul trouble. I can’t trust Race to be the 3rd big yet with all his injuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DunkinDipo Posted February 10, 2020 Report Share Posted February 10, 2020 3 minutes ago, Cbp4IU said: Let’s say IU loses 2-3 guys to transfers or such. I wouldn’t mind if we find a PG to push Phinisee. A grad transfer like Ziesloft. Then another grad transfer either another 3 point specialist or a big who could give IU 14-16 minutes a game of solid defense. (Just in case TJD and Brunk) get one foul trouble. I can’t trust Race to be the 3rd big yet with all his injuries. I totally get what you are saying here but that sure is a lot of "if's" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brass Cannon Posted February 10, 2020 Report Share Posted February 10, 2020 25 minutes ago, CapnRon said: Nope, not it either. lol Lol so much substance to your posts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapnRon Posted February 10, 2020 Report Share Posted February 10, 2020 5 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said: Lol so much substance to your posts Sorry, you missed my point awhile ago, and I don't see much of a reason to debate with someone who didn't follow the initial point I was trying to make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JugRox Posted February 10, 2020 Report Share Posted February 10, 2020 57 minutes ago, IUCrazy2 said: Can you give me the lotto numbers for next week? If not you, maybe BEKA can. Seriously, you never know unless you throw the offer out there. And those NBA guys may be willing to leave if the price is right...$7 million a year speaks volumes. That is nearly double the current salary of Stevens and it is $3 million more than Donovan is making. That would get their attention. 1. IU is not going to pay a coach $7 million a year 2. IU tried to hire those NBA guys 2 years ago. They weren’t interested then and they aren’t interested now. 3. Stevens doesn’t like college basketball recruiting and prefers the NBA. He is considered one of the best young coaches in the NBA. He isn’t going anywhere If a change happens, it will be another mid major coach. Donovan, Stevens are not walking through that door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brass Cannon Posted February 10, 2020 Report Share Posted February 10, 2020 8 minutes ago, CapnRon said: Sorry, you missed my point awhile ago, and I don't see much of a reason to debate with someone who didn't follow the initial point I was trying to make. You said something completely false and then insulted somebody for calling you out on lying. There’s nothing to debate. Just stop lying to try and make your point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JugRox Posted February 10, 2020 Report Share Posted February 10, 2020 48 minutes ago, dbmhoosier said: You never know until you ask. I think if we throw $8M a year out a big fish would bite. IU is not going to offer $8 million a year. And they just said No 2 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JugRox Posted February 10, 2020 Report Share Posted February 10, 2020 2 hours ago, BEKA said: Source? Also, is that who we really want running the program. Honest question. Pearl is the only “big name” option out there that IU could realistically land. Beard is a Texas guy and wants the Texas job according to Tech people. It would be an extreme long shot. Mike White level of coach would even be a 50/50 proposition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IowaHoosierFan Posted February 10, 2020 Report Share Posted February 10, 2020 2 hours ago, BDB said: Scott, this probably happens at most schools. I live in Ames Iowa and the fans are livid with Steve Prohm the past two years. There is a 164 page thread on why he must go. I live in Pella IA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radio Zero Posted February 10, 2020 Report Share Posted February 10, 2020 9 minutes ago, IowaHoosierFan said: I live in Pella IA I’m guessing you’re Dutch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jblaz13 Posted February 10, 2020 Report Share Posted February 10, 2020 FWIW , Some of the opinions here calling for Miller's job right now are from among the same crowd that jumped to conclusions post-2017 and hailed Holtmann as some form of basketball majesty , and laughed at Underwood after year 1. My point is things can change rapidly. .GO IU!!! I support Coach Miller! If anyone wants to take personal jabs at my post history LOL bet your saucy little Pujols that I'll be WAITING 😘 Smooches ! . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IowaHoosierFan Posted February 10, 2020 Report Share Posted February 10, 2020 Just now, Radio Zero said: I’m guessing you’re Dutch. No, transplant from Indiana 20 years ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brass Cannon Posted February 10, 2020 Report Share Posted February 10, 2020 6 minutes ago, jblaz13 said: FWIW , Some of the opinions here calling for Miller's job right now are from among the same crowd that jumped to conclusions post-2017 and hailed Holtmann as some form of basketball majesty , and laughed at Underwood after year 1. My point is things can change rapidly. .GO IU!!! I support Coach Miller! If anyone wants to take personal jabs at my post history LOL bet your saucy little Pujols that I'll be WAITING 😘 Smooches ! . Things can change rapidly but certainly not likely. Crean was only able to turn it around in year 4 because he had a stud coming in. We do not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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