5fouls Posted February 12, 2020 Report Share Posted February 12, 2020 1 hour ago, bluegrassIU said: Preach! I believe discussing religion is against the forum's rules. As a moderator, you should know that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapnRon Posted February 12, 2020 Report Share Posted February 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, IU Scott said: Nobody is saying they want him back Are you reading the board lol? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted February 12, 2020 Report Share Posted February 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, CapnRon said: Are you reading the board lol? Yes and have not seen one person who said they want him back but stating that Archie is not doing any better than Crean was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted February 12, 2020 Report Share Posted February 12, 2020 I wish we had Crean back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackson Kellogs Posted February 12, 2020 Report Share Posted February 12, 2020 On 2/8/2020 at 10:17 PM, BDB said: And the question again for that, why does the cancer get so much PT? I don't care if they throw a manager out there. I don't care if they play with 4 players. I remember reading when Archie was hired that he wouldn't be afraid to bench players for not playing the way he wanted. I do not see it that way. I see the players running the show. I have my sources since I currently go to school at IU and I’m friends with many of the athletes.. specifically a player on the teams girlfriend who is an ex softball player. I’m being told the issue isn’t Devonte, but it’s the fact that Justin Smith and De’Ron Davis specifically do not listen to Archie and do not like to be coached. Those are the two cancers from what I have been told. The day before the Purdue game I was told that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted February 12, 2020 Report Share Posted February 12, 2020 1 minute ago, Jackson Kellogs said: I have my sources since I currently go to school at IU and I’m friends with many of the athletes.. specifically a player on the teams girlfriend who is an ex softball player. I’m being told the issue isn’t Devonte, but it’s the fact that Justin Smith and De’Ron Davis specifically do not listen to Archie and do not like to be coached. Those are the two cancers from what I have been told. The day before the Purdue game I was told that. I can't see that with Smith because he seemed to be more under control this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackson Kellogs Posted February 12, 2020 Report Share Posted February 12, 2020 Just now, IU Scott said: I can't see that with Smith because he seemed to be more under control this year. I thought the same thing because he’s been playing well and under control, but from what I’m being told his attitude about Archie is not good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted February 12, 2020 Report Share Posted February 12, 2020 Just now, Jackson Kellogs said: I thought the same thing because he’s been playing well and under control, but from what I’m being told his attitude about Archie is not good. Well Odle did tweet Saturday that they have a cancer or two on that team and they will be gone next year. Unless Odle knows something about Smith leaving that tweet would not include Smith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parakeet Jones Posted February 12, 2020 Report Share Posted February 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, IU Scott said: I can't see that with Smith because he seemed to be more under control this year. He is also leading the team in minutes played per game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbmhoosier Posted February 12, 2020 Report Share Posted February 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, Jackson Kellogs said: I have my sources since I currently go to school at IU and I’m friends with many of the athletes.. specifically a player on the teams girlfriend who is an ex softball player. I’m being told the issue isn’t Devonte, but it’s the fact that Justin Smith and De’Ron Davis specifically do not listen to Archie and do not like to be coached. Those are the two cancers from what I have been told. The day before the Purdue game I was told that. Then why does Justin keep starting? Put Jerome in there and tell Justin “you’ll find him a nice place to play” once the season ends. Is Archie truly that incompetent to allow the inmates to run the asylum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapnRon Posted February 12, 2020 Report Share Posted February 12, 2020 6 minutes ago, IU Scott said: Yes and have not seen one person who said they want him back but stating that Archie is not doing any better than Crean was. Lol why would anyone bring that up if they weren't saying we should have kept him? lol these responses are pointless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackson Kellogs Posted February 12, 2020 Report Share Posted February 12, 2020 31 minutes ago, IU Scott said: Well Odle did tweet Saturday that they have a cancer or two on that team and they will be gone next year. Unless Odle knows something about Smith leaving that tweet would not include Smith. I’m just stating what I’ve been told. Coming from a source who’s dating a player on the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapnRon Posted February 12, 2020 Report Share Posted February 12, 2020 4 minutes ago, IU Scott said: Well Odle did tweet Saturday that they have a cancer or two on that team and they will be gone next year. Unless Odle knows something about Smith leaving that tweet would not include Smith. You misread Odle's quote buddy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted February 12, 2020 Report Share Posted February 12, 2020 Just now, CapnRon said: You misread Odle's quote buddy. so what did he say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackson Kellogs Posted February 12, 2020 Report Share Posted February 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, dbmhoosier said: Then why does Justin keep starting? Put Jerome in there and tell Justin “you’ll find him a nice place to play” once the season ends. Is Archie truly that incompetent to allow the inmates to run the asylum? Because the players run Archie.. and he can’t discipline them how he wants. Smith has been productive this year so that’s the only reason I see him still having him in the starting 5. I agree with what you’re saying though, I would start Jerome at the 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbmhoosier Posted February 12, 2020 Report Share Posted February 12, 2020 Just now, Jackson Kellogs said: Because the players run Archie.. and he can’t discipline them how he wants. Smith has been productive this year so that’s the only reason I see him still having him in the starting 5. I agree with what you’re saying though, I would start Jerome at the 3. Then it sounds like CAM really wants that $15M buyout. I thought for months that he seemed miserable. Sometimes what looks like a dream job ends up being a nightmare. It happened to me once. I think he’s realizing that this is a bad marriage and wants out. Absolutely nothing else makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackson Kellogs Posted February 12, 2020 Report Share Posted February 12, 2020 The problem is my generation is soft and has everything handed to them.. so kids growing up in AAU have been told how great they are their whole life so when they come to college they expect everything to be handed to them. None of these guys want to take an ass chewing from any coach. It’s just the way it is. College basketball will never be the same as it once was, and the fact that our society coddles and sensors everything including the way coaches are allowed to run their programs has ruined it. It’s a shame honestly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted February 12, 2020 Report Share Posted February 12, 2020 1 minute ago, Jackson Kellogs said: The problem is my generation is soft and has everything handed to them.. so kids growing up in AAU have been told how great they are their whole life so when they come to college they expect everything to be handed to them. None of these guys want to take an ass chewing from any coach. It’s just the way it is. College basketball will never be the same as it once was, and the fact that our society coddles and sensors everything including the way coaches are allowed to run their programs has ruined it. It’s a shame honestly. I agree but not all kids are soft but they have been coddled way to much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackson Kellogs Posted February 12, 2020 Report Share Posted February 12, 2020 1 minute ago, IU Scott said: I agree but not all kids are soft but they have been coddled way to much I agree not all kids but too many unfortunately.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotIThatLives Posted February 12, 2020 Report Share Posted February 12, 2020 7 minutes ago, IU Scott said: so what did he say Jarrad Odle (@JarradOdle) Tweeted: Mark my words, there is a cancer or 2 on this iu team. We had one in 2001 and when he left our world got a whole lot better. No it wasn’t @KirkHaston35IU 😆 https://twitter.com/JarradOdle/status/1226334938368290816?s=20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted February 12, 2020 Report Share Posted February 12, 2020 1 minute ago, Jackson Kellogs said: I agree not all kids but too many unfortunately.. If you watched the UI and MSU game last night both coaches was getting to their players and it did not seem to effect them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUaic Posted February 12, 2020 Report Share Posted February 12, 2020 On 2/11/2020 at 12:38 PM, IUFLA said: I'm sure it's an informed opinion...I'd wager that a former IU player has as good if not better inside information about the team than most of us do... More than likely, since they played together on a Final Four team, He and Mike Roberts still keep in touch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybergates Posted February 12, 2020 Report Share Posted February 12, 2020 8 minutes ago, dbmhoosier said: Then it sounds like CAM really wants that $15M buyout. I thought for months that he seemed miserable. Sometimes what looks like a dream job ends up being a nightmare. It happened to me once. I think he’s realizing that this is a bad marriage and wants out. Absolutely nothing else makes sense. Might explain why he doesn't "expose" the admin's ways that everyone is wanting him to do. Contract may void the buyout if he does something along those lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zuckerkorn Posted February 12, 2020 Report Share Posted February 12, 2020 18 minutes ago, Jackson Kellogs said: I thought the same thing because he’s been playing well and under control, but from what I’m being told his attitude about Archie is not good. Well, to be sure, the elder Mr. Smith has shown a negative attitude in the past... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackson Kellogs Posted February 12, 2020 Report Share Posted February 12, 2020 Just now, IU Scott said: If you watched the UI and MSU game last night both coaches was getting to their players and it did not seem to effect them. MSU is a great example of players who are tough as nails and a coach who is allowed to run his program the way he wants. I really do believe our administration here at IU doesn’t care about the importance of the basketball program and doesn’t invest enough into it like other blue bloods do. I just wish we had an administration that would do anything to make this program a top priority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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