IU Scott Posted February 17, 2020 Report Share Posted February 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, ATX_sig said: Sounds like an old wives tale. No, just listen to a lot of basketball experts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jojo123 Posted February 17, 2020 Report Share Posted February 17, 2020 I really like Beilein. But his offense needs wings and bigs that can shoot. Are roster has none of that. I don't have a problem with Archies offense, We get plenty of good looks. We just don't make them. What upsets me most is are lack of urgency on the defensive end of the floor. He plays 11 guys and we rarely reach are limit on fouls. If you are playing defense aggressive you are going to foul. That being said we have a lack of desire to be competitive and something is afoul. We need to really turn the heat up with are voice and are actions. The blame belongs on two of three groups. The Coaches and Players or the Admin and players. As fans we deserve to know what we are supporting. We have been supporting this for years now and keep coming back to the same place with the same complaints. So there is a common theme here to draw a conclusion. Time we get some answers and either support the current culture of the program or move away from the program if no change is going to take place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted February 17, 2020 Report Share Posted February 17, 2020 12 minutes ago, jojo123 said: I really like Beilein. But his offense needs wings and bigs that can shoot. Are roster has none of that. I don't have a problem with Archies offense, We get plenty of good looks. We just don't make them. What upsets me most is are lack of urgency on the defensive end of the floor. He plays 11 guys and we rarely reach are limit on fouls. If you are playing defense aggressive you are going to foul. That being said we have a lack of desire to be competitive and something is afoul. We need to really turn the heat up with are voice and are actions. The blame belongs on two of three groups. The Coaches and Players or the Admin and players. As fans we deserve to know what we are supporting. We have been supporting this for years now and keep coming back to the same place with the same complaints. So there is a common theme here to draw a conclusion. Time we get some answers and either support the current culture of the program or move away from the program if no change is going to take place. Just wondering, but wasn't this a post of yours in another thread? I just don't think having these threads about replacements is not good for the program when we still have a coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUCrazy2 Posted February 17, 2020 Report Share Posted February 17, 2020 13 minutes ago, jojo123 said: I really like Beilein. But his offense needs wings and bigs that can shoot. Are roster has none of that. I don't have a problem with Archies offense, We get plenty of good looks. We just don't make them. What upsets me most is are lack of urgency on the defensive end of the floor. He plays 11 guys and we rarely reach are limit on fouls. If you are playing defense aggressive you are going to foul. That being said we have a lack of desire to be competitive and something is afoul. We need to really turn the heat up with are voice and are actions. The blame belongs on two of three groups. The Coaches and Players or the Admin and players. As fans we deserve to know what we are supporting. We have been supporting this for years now and keep coming back to the same place with the same complaints. So there is a common theme here to draw a conclusion. Time we get some answers and either support the current culture of the program or move away from the program if no change is going to take place. The one constant over most of this time is the administration. I would start with the BoT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogermci Posted February 17, 2020 Report Share Posted February 17, 2020 Ain't no way any of the above 3 wind up at IU. Archie will be here for 5 years. No one knows what will happen the last 6 games or next year or whom we recruit in 2021. Totally unproductive thread that is just another cover for a fire Archie thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxnJxn Posted February 17, 2020 Report Share Posted February 17, 2020 9 minutes ago, IU Scott said: Just wondering, but wasn't this a post of yours in another thread? I just don't think having these threads about replacements is not good for the program when we still have a coach. Yeah, I don't get the point of having another new coach thread when the other one is 35 some pages long. This should just be merged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUrocker Posted February 17, 2020 Report Share Posted February 17, 2020 - Not gonna happen, not gonna happen, not gonna happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted February 17, 2020 Report Share Posted February 17, 2020 Can somebody please start another thread about our coach? We ain't got enough of them on here. We need at least 10 talking about the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radio Zero Posted February 17, 2020 Report Share Posted February 17, 2020 2 hours ago, addictedtoIU said: You're a funny guy. Way to go starting a great week. All I can tell you is to chill out. Reread what you wrote. Especially the opening sentence. You sound like a teacher scolding her first graders. I can’t quite figure out why it’s always the cheer block who wants the negs to be silenced, though I could speculate. And yes, I’m aware the question of the possibility of changing coaches and that of whether it’s warranted are separate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jefftheref Posted February 17, 2020 Report Share Posted February 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, rico said: Can somebody please start another thread about our coach? We ain't got enough of them on here. We need at least 10 talking about the same thing. Are you sure you want me to do this?🥴 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted February 17, 2020 Report Share Posted February 17, 2020 1 minute ago, jefftheref said: Are you sure you want me to do this?🥴 Go right ahead...maybe call it Beilein, Stevens, Beard, Alford, Donovan, Few. New title. Just a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jefftheref Posted February 17, 2020 Report Share Posted February 17, 2020 Just now, rico said: Go right ahead...maybe call it Beilein, Stevens, Beard, Alford, Donovan, Few. New title. Just a thought. Rico, I will pass. lol I think speculating on a coach when we have a coach is crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted February 17, 2020 Report Share Posted February 17, 2020 32 minutes ago, AxnJxn said: Yeah, I don't get the point of having another new coach thread when the other one is 35 some pages long. This should just be merged. His actual post that he started this thread with is a post he had already made in another thread so I guess he wanted to make sure we saw it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JugRox Posted February 17, 2020 Report Share Posted February 17, 2020 17 minutes ago, Radio Zero said: Reread what you wrote. Especially the opening sentence. You sound like a teacher scolding her first graders. I can’t quite figure out why it’s always the cheer block who wants the negs to be silenced, though I could speculate. And yes, I’m aware the question of the possibility of changing coaches and that of whether it’s warranted are separate. Because no coaching change is going to happen this year or next. So why bring it up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted February 17, 2020 Report Share Posted February 17, 2020 21 minutes ago, Radio Zero said: Reread what you wrote. Especially the opening sentence. You sound like a teacher scolding her first graders. I can’t quite figure out why it’s always the cheer block who wants the negs to be silenced, though I could speculate. And yes, I’m aware the question of the possibility of changing coaches and that of whether it’s warranted are separate. Because one there is not going to be a coaching change and two this kind of stuff hurts the program. I would think if you guys truly loved this program like you say you do then you would do things that would impact it in a positive manner instead of always being negative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iuthruandthru Posted February 17, 2020 Report Share Posted February 17, 2020 I hear through the wonders of science that we are close to getting a genetically spliced clone of Branch and Bobby, he was born about18 years ago in a lab. Need a few more years out of Archie and then we can slide Branch Knight right into the spot and all will be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbmhoosier Posted February 17, 2020 Report Share Posted February 17, 2020 I’d be all for bringing in JB for 6-7 years along with Fife as his lead assistant and eventual replacement. Seems like a no brainer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JugRox Posted February 17, 2020 Report Share Posted February 17, 2020 6 minutes ago, dbmhoosier said: I’d be all for bringing in JB for 6-7 years along with Fife as his lead assistant and eventual replacement. Seems like a no brainer. Beilien isn't going to coach for 6-7 more years. I bet there is a really good chance he retires after this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbmhoosier Posted February 17, 2020 Report Share Posted February 17, 2020 4 minutes ago, JugRox said: Beilien isn't going to coach for 6-7 more years. I bet there is a really good chance he retires after this year. If he wants it that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milehiiu Posted February 17, 2020 Report Share Posted February 17, 2020 Been reading that JB has been testing the college waters, ever since he had to apologize to his Cleveland team. And Texas is interested in him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbmhoosier Posted February 17, 2020 Report Share Posted February 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, milehiiu said: Been reading that JB has been testing the college waters, ever since he had to apologize to his Cleveland team. And Texas is interested in him. I would assume that means Beard has told them he isn’t interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierhoopster Posted February 17, 2020 Report Share Posted February 17, 2020 Meant to merge this duplicative thread under the previously posted "John Beilein Potentially Stepping Down" thread, got it backwards. Threads are combined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted February 17, 2020 Report Share Posted February 17, 2020 23 minutes ago, dbmhoosier said: I’d be all for bringing in JB for 6-7 years along with Fife as his lead assistant and eventual replacement. Seems like a no brainer. What makes you think Fife would come here in the first place for a lateral move. Just because he played here and spent 4 years on campus doesn't mean he will move here to coach. He has lived in Michigan most of his life and his family is associated with UM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUCrazy2 Posted February 17, 2020 Report Share Posted February 17, 2020 23 minutes ago, IU Scott said: Because one there is not going to be a coaching change and two this kind of stuff hurts the program. I would think if you guys truly loved this program like you say you do then you would do things that would impact it in a positive manner instead of always being negative. Nothing said on these forums hurts more than the awful effort and play on the floor. That is the issue. Nobody would be complaining right now if this team had 18 to 19 wins alread and did not look like garbage on the road. Coaches recruiting against IU don't need to tell players to go to message boards, they just need to tell them to watch a game. And frankly, if not for talking about what is wrong with this team, there would not be much else to talk about. I have noticed an absolute down tick in the discussion after our past few losses because people are going into "well, here we go again, time to find something better to do mode..." Finally, nobody needs you to be the gatekeeper for discussion. If you do not like the threads that have a pessimistic (realistic, IMO) view of where we are, skip them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milehiiu Posted February 17, 2020 Report Share Posted February 17, 2020 10 minutes ago, dbmhoosier said: I would assume that means Beard has told them he isn’t interested. Can't speak to that. However, I keep picking up JB and Texas. Just one example :John Beilein Could Be An Option For Texas Basketball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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