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Absolutely no excuse for the int, and both teams gave up points on turnovers, but the receivers are being mugged and for some reason our senior defense is having trouble with the run. No idea, no clue what is wrong. Every interference call has gone against us, we had a td pass called back on a late hold flag, we can’t get to the QB, and we seem to have a limited offensive playbook without reverses or delayed draws.....or anything. 

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29 minutes ago, hoopsta007 said:

Don’t understand how we can come out so uninspired in a game that means so much for our season.  Bill Lynch 2.0

That is what seemed off to me also. We left points on the field, too many off passes, some questionable no calls, but Purdue has not been able to run on anyone. 

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51 minutes ago, hoopsta007 said:

Don’t understand how we can come out so uninspired in a game that means so much for our season.  Bill Lynch 2.0

 

18 minutes ago, Proud2BAHoosier said:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't CTA a defensive specialist before becoming the HC??

I guessed I missed the second one, did we give up two td/scores on penalties calling them back?

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Congrats to PU. They actually showed up to play today.  We didn't.  Sad ending for a season that opened with such great expectations.  As stated earlier, cannot understand coming into a rivalry game with a bowl berth on the line and playing such uninspiring football as exhibited today.  When you are known as the perennial BIG doormat and you cannot at least play with intensity and pride then no wonder fans seem not to care either. Judging by the paucity of posts seems most fans just disinterested.  I see us regressing next year with all the seniors graduating.  Guess the "breakthru" will have to wait another 2-3yrs. I truly don't know how CTA sells this program to recruits and fans get sucked into optimism.  

Ok, my rant is over.  Now onto CAM and IUBB!

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This was a pivotal season to show potential recruits that we can win here. Now the buzz is with Brohm and Purdue. Hate to say it but we may be heading back to doormat status. This loss and season is on the coaching staff. Lagow may make bad decisions but it’s the inept coaching staff putting this team in bad positions. On to hoops I suppose...

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The key to this game was that Purdue could run the ball and IU could not. The shortcomings of the OL were glaring and the series that epitomized our inability to win the line of scrimmage happened late first half where we couldn't get a first down on 3rd and one. Midfield and we didn't even think of going for it. Instead, we punt and they go for a long TD.

Purdue ran over our defense, extended drives, and kept our offense off the field and out of rhythm 

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17 minutes ago, milehiiu said:

Hey Payday.  Season's over.  Doesn't mean you have to leave us.  Hang in there with us. Would love to hear more from you as IUFB heads into the future. 

Lol, not going anywhere. Actually heard from some Crane family this week that said the same thing, to not be a stranger. 

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10 minutes ago, Jerry Lundergaard said:

The key to this game was that Purdue could run the ball and IU could not. The shortcomings of the OL were glaring and the series that epitomized our inability to win the line of scrimmage happened late first half where we couldn't get a first down on 3rd and one. Midfield and we didn't even think of going for it. Instead, we punt and they go for a long TD.

Purdue ran over our defense, extended drives, and kept our offense off the field and out of rhythm 

I just hope to God we don't bring back DeBord.  He had talked about retiring after last season before he decided to come to IU, so we wouldn't even really need to fire him.  Just tell him he needs to retire and if not then we can fire him.  He was as bad of an OC as Brian Knorr was a DC.  We should be able to throw some of that Big Ten Network money at a good OC.  That would cure a lot of the issues on our offense.  They were magnified this year by how bad DeBord actually was.  When everyone knows we're running a draw on 1st down, it makes it tough for everyone.  There was no variety or creativity, and it made us predictable and very easy to defend.

I think our bad play calling led to wearing down our defense a lot.  Coming into today, Whitehead had the 5th most punts in the country at basically 7 a game (had 9 today).  I'm a big fan of the hurry up offense if it is run properly like we did a few years with Wilson.  Our offense beat teams up and wore them down, we just had incompetent DCs until Allen.  When it isn't run properly, it beats our defense up and wears it down like this year.

If DeBord goes, everyone will be loving Allen next year because we'll be so much better on offense and defense.  If DeBord stays both areas will regress, and everyone will be wanting Allen gone next year.

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6 minutes ago, Payday said:

Lol, not going anywhere. Actually heard from some Crane family this week that said the same thing, to not be a stranger. 

Good to know.  And since you mentioned it.....I would like to share with the rest of HSN 3.0, something you have shared with me.  Richard Lagow has deep family roots in the state of Indiana.  The Crane Naval Station, just out of Bloomington, was named after a long ago relative of Richard Lagow.

Now that the season is over, I still think Richard should pay them a visit.

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35 minutes ago, milehiiu said:

Good to know.  And since you mentioned it.....I would like to share with the rest of HSN 3.0, something you have shared with me.  Richard Lagow has deep family roots in the state of Indiana.  The Crane Naval Station, just out of Bloomington, was named after a long ago relative of Richard Lagow.

Now that the season is over, I still think Richard should pay them a visit.

He said he was headed over before graduation. 

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1 hour ago, milehiiu said:

I am pleased to hear that.  Thanks for sharing. 

It is funny, my grandmother was a Crane and the family would talk about it and bring it up at holidays but I never put it together till he signed here and my mother brought it up because she was proud her grandson was going to play for IU. It is a small world. 

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5 minutes ago, Proud2BAHoosier said:

While I really like this new site for everything IU, the one thing the other site had was links to post game conferences.

Be interesting to hear what CTA had to say after the game....

Most likely “played hard, they played hard, (inaudible mumbling), just didnt go our way today...LEO

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3AM and still not sleeping so........

The most important issues for the team going forward:

QB position needs supporting bringing in graduate transfer or juco to give starter backup. There could be some surprises coming and they need to protect against them.

offensive playbook has to go. No reverses, no misdirection, no delayed draws, qb is always in shotgun, it is just too vanilla. Deborg or not, this playbook has to go. I have seen some high schools with more creativity. After yesterday I’m not sure how they spent all that practice time on offense. 

RB has to beef up. Ellison and Gest can be real, but they needed another year in the weight room and Redding leaving caught them off guard.

DC has to be hired. Allen is a good coach but you can’t be a head coach and DC. Put the DC upstairs where he can see from above and the HC can take a more overseeing approach. He gets too emotional as the DC and it hurts the team. That is not his role anymore. Wilson shot himself in the foot the same way by having an OC but refusing to let him do anything. Before the bowl game last year I asked the then OC how many games he had actually called and was told he had not called any plays, much less games.

I am optimistic that they got enough young defensive players some experience this year and the losses will have less impact. Offense is going to have to be more running qb style because we lose Luke, Ian, and Simmie along with a few other receivers. But Mack, Waterboy the TE(who is a good kid and player) and some of the other youngsters look good and will be very good by mid season.

other than that, we just need to use the big ten association to keep recruiting taller and faster players we can bring in the program and beef up. Right now we aren’t going to always out recruit Ohio, Wisconsin, MS, UM, and a couple of others so act like real coaches and develope players by recruiting frames you can develope and put muscle on them. Go for the taller frames with good athletic ability. A five star player is only a five star till the end of his sophomore year. At that point those leaner two and three star players have been at the table and weight room beefing up. Stars don’t mean a thing after the sophomore year if the coaches are doing their jobs.

On the season, first year coaches make mistakes. Self interest or not, I think if you stay with Richard you beat Virginia anyway(you have to remember there were four dropped passes in the first quarter before he was benched and I believe they would have woken up by halftime), have a shot at beating MS for the second time in a row, Michigan is not out of the question, and you easily beat Maryland. Even if you don’t win either of the MS/UM you beat Maryland and are bowling. First year coaches micro manage, they panicked when they should stay the course. It is just a natural process. PU flip flopped at qb till Blough got hurt. It is just a side effect of being a First or second year coach. I told Richard after the Ohio game that this was coming, who else do you explain running a replacement qb onto the field against Ohio while we had the momentum of having scored, and told him he would be back. I thought it would be before the Maryland game, but it was fairly close to accurate. But that growing year is behind the program now and make no mistake about it, THE IU FOOTBALL PROGRAM IS THE BEST JOB IN THE BIG TEN TO MAKE A NAME AND HAS THE EASIEST AND MOST ATTRACTIVE OPPORTUNITY TO MOVE UP DRASTICALLY! The bizarre issue with Wilson set things back a little, but even with everything that happened this year if we could have stopped the run yesterday, or slowed it down, this team was headed to a bowl. Yes we gave up a TD on an unexplainable int, but they gave it right back on a fumble so we are dead even at that point. We had two TD throws called back and those drives died with no points. I have seen very few teams over the years give up 280 yards in rushing and still win. It eats up too much of the clock. So, new coach, qb changes, heartbreaking losses to MS, UM, Maryland, and we still had a group of kids fight to the end. You think the offense issues and coaching concerns impact the fans, you should think about what it does to a bunch of players busting their asses. And they refused to quit.......a lot of teams would have and we see it all the time.

Richard may be moving on but this program is part of one of the most beautiful college campuses in America, it is a perfect size town where you would feel comfortable sending your kids, the school is great, there are just too many positives and the program has all the ingredients to flourish. But in order to grow we have to do it the old fashioned way of developing players and quit worrying about stars and other noise.

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5 hours ago, Payday said:

Offense is going to have to be more running qb style because we lose Luke, Ian, and Simmie along with a few other receivers. 

Agree with almost your whole post! That being said do you have insight into the receivers because I think Simmie and Luke are both RS juniors and could return? I know Simmie may be NFL bound

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