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Just now, btownqb said:

I was very disappointed when I heard how rare asymptomatic people were to pass on the virus. Very disappointed. We were fed complete lies about that for 2.5 months and people believed it. 

It will change again tomorrow. The most frustrating thing is there is seemingly no "truth".

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12 minutes ago, bluegrassIU said:

The most frustrating thing is there is seemingly no "truth".

This is the truth.  

Oh wait, if I say what you said is the truth, then there actually is some truth, which contradicts what you said.  I'm so confused.  

 

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19 minutes ago, 5fouls said:

This is the truth.  

Oh wait, if I say what you said is the truth, then there actually is some truth, which contradicts what you said.  I'm so confused.  

 

Truly confusing. Which may or may not be true.

FU Corona!

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4 minutes ago, bluegrassIU said:

FU Corona!

A sentiment that probably 99.9999999999999% of the people in the world agree with.

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1 hour ago, btownqb said:

I was very disappointed when I heard how rare asymptomatic people were to pass on the virus. Very disappointed. We were fed complete lies about that for 2.5 months and people believed it. 

Where did you see that? Everything that I’ve seen says the opposite.

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22 minutes ago, TheWatShot said:

People whining about having to wear a mask are more annoying than wearing the mask itself. 

<sarcasm>But, but my liberty and freedom!</sarcasm>

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I say take the mask "issues" to the polls.  Let Hoosiers(other states) vote as to wear/not to wear.

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8 minutes ago, rico said:

I say take the mask "issues" to the polls.  Let Hoosiers(other states) vote as to wear/not to wear.

I don't think that would be a good idea because no one likes to where them and a lot of people would vote no.  People will.make bad decisions when it comes to the well being if the masses.

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2 hours ago, IU Scott said:

I don't think that would be a good idea because no one likes to where them and a lot of people would vote no.  People will.make bad decisions when it comes to the well being if the masses.

We’ll dadgum, and I though Marx was dead. I stand corrected. 

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2 hours ago, IU Scott said:

  People will.make bad decisions when it comes to the well being if the masses.

And our elected officials won't necessarily make the same bad decisions???????????????????

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7 time NASCAR champ Jimmie Johnson has tested positive and will miss the Brickyard 400 this weekend.

 

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9 hours ago, Lostin76 said:

<sarcasm>But, but my liberty and freedom!</sarcasm>

Well... its true. 🤷‍♂️... I wouldnt tell you what to do.

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5 hours ago, tdhoosier said:

Where did you see that? Everything that I’ve seen says the opposite.

1.5 weeks ago it was everywhere 

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Where are the mods to issue warnings when you need them. You have know idea how much I want to jump in on this marginal political discussion!

That being said sample of one, brother-in law of my friend has a cube next to a person who tested positive. He was told to and wanted to get tested. He shows up at work with no symptoms and no fever. His test came back positive. Now everybody is worried!

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I disagree with people. No reason to make it political or whatever, or complain that it might be?... Thats just such a confusing post. Apologies for my contributions, I guess. 

Exited now. 

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5 hours ago, Joe_Hoopsier said:

We’ll dadgum, and I though Marx was dead. I stand corrected. 

Marx is dead but unfortunately his ideology is alive and well.

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8 hours ago, tdhoosier said:

Where did you see that? Everything that I’ve seen says the opposite.

Maybe something similar to this https://www.statnews.com/2020/06/09/who-comments-asymptomatic-spread-covid-19/

Maybe, if these so called experts could show some humility and admit they really dont know what they are doing right now and let us give them time to figure it out.

But we live in a world of instant gratification and most of our peers are too dumb to wait for anything that takes time. 

 

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7 hours ago, btownqb said:

1.5 weeks ago it was everywhere 

 

5 hours ago, mrflynn03 said:

Maybe something similar to this https://www.statnews.com/2020/06/09/who-comments-asymptomatic-spread-covid-19/

Maybe, if these so called experts could show some humility and admit they really dont know what they are doing right now and let us give them time to figure it out.

But we live in a world of instant gratification and most of our peers are too dumb to wait for anything that takes time. 

 

You may want to reread that article you posted. The WHO went back on what they said; the whole point of article. Presymptomatic spread is broadly believed to happen, it’s the whole point of wearing masks.

“To some, it came across as if the WHO was suggesting that people without symptoms weren’t driving spread. Some studies, however, have estimated that people without symptoms (whether truly asymptomatic or presymptomatic) could be responsible for up to half of the spread, which is why the virus has been so difficult to contain. Isolating people who are sick, for example, does not prevent the possibility they already passed the virus on to others. Some modeling studies have assumed quite widespread asymptomatic transmission.

“The WHO created confusion yesterday when it reported that asymptomatic patients rarely spread the disease,” an email from the Harvard Global Health Institute said Tuesday. “All of the best evidence suggests that people without symptoms can and do readily spread SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes Covid-19. In fact, some evidence suggests that people may be most infectious in the days before they become symptomatic — that is, in the presymptomatic phase when they feel well, have no symptoms, but may be shedding substantial amounts of virus.”

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1 hour ago, tdhoosier said:

 

You may want to reread that article you posted. The WHO went back on what they said; the whole point of article. Presymptomatic spread is broadly believed to happen, it’s the whole point of wearing masks.

“To some, it came across as if the WHO was suggesting that people without symptoms weren’t driving spread. Some studies, however, have estimated that people without symptoms (whether truly asymptomatic or presymptomatic) could be responsible for up to half of the spread, which is why the virus has been so difficult to contain. Isolating people who are sick, for example, does not prevent the possibility they already passed the virus on to others. Some modeling studies have assumed quite widespread asymptomatic transmission.

“The WHO created confusion yesterday when it reported that asymptomatic patients rarely spread the disease,” an email from the Harvard Global Health Institute said Tuesday. “All of the best evidence suggests that people without symptoms can and do readily spread SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes Covid-19. In fact, some evidence suggests that people may be most infectious in the days before they become symptomatic — that is, in the presymptomatic phase when they feel well, have no symptoms, but may be shedding substantial amounts of virus.”

Which is why we shouldn't be listening to WHO in the first place...We may as well take everything Xi Jinping says as the truth too...

"“From the data we have, it still seems to be rare that an asymptomatic person actually transmits onward to a secondary individual,” Maria Van Kerkhove, PhD, WHO’s COVID-19 technical lead and an infectious disease epidemiologist, said June 8 at a news briefing from the agency’s Geneva headquarters/"

Doesn't seem to be much ambiguity to that statement at all...

“The WHO created confusion yesterday"

Yes, funny how that seems to be a trend...

 

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2 minutes ago, IUFLA said:

Which is why we shouldn't be listening to WHO in the first place...We may as well take everything Xi Jinping says as the truth too...

"“From the data we have, it still seems to be rare that an asymptomatic person actually transmits onward to a secondary individual,” Maria Van Kerkhove, PhD, WHO’s COVID-19 technical lead and an infectious disease epidemiologist, said June 8 at a news briefing from the agency’s Geneva headquarters/"

Doesn't seem to be much ambiguity to that statement at all...

“The WHO created confusion yesterday"

Yes, funny how that seems to be a trend...

 

In her defense she did blame it on a misunderstanding of semantics between asymptotic and presymptomatic. But people heard what they wanted to hear and ran with it. Even experts in the WHO didn’t agree with how she framed her wording. 

I think she meant ‘asymptomatic’ as in people who never develop symptoms at all during the entire life span of the virus. Obviously those cases are harder to catch and trace because people don’t get tested. Thus, there’s very little data. Presymptomatic refers the span of 1-3 days before symptoms appear. She never technically disputed presymptomatic spread. 

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14 hours ago, IU Scott said:

I don't think that would be a good idea because no one likes to where them and a lot of people would vote no.  People will.make bad decisions when it comes to the well being if the masses.

So you throw democracy out the window on the virus?  Hmmmmmmm.

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1 hour ago, rico said:

So you throw democracy out the window on the virus?  Hmmmmmmm.

Why aren't you out on the lake fishing?  😁🇺🇸

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2 minutes ago, jv1972iu said:

Why aren't you out on the lake fishing?  😁🇺🇸

Got a party to go to here in a few.....fishin' tomorrow.

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