btownqb Posted May 17, 2020 Report Share Posted May 17, 2020 10 minutes ago, Seeking6 said: I guess I'll just add championships and Purdue aren't part of the equation. I was just saying consistent tourney wins might for some be a qualifier for "a very good coach"......I don't know....Painter hasn't done that. He's not a "very good coach". He's a solid coach, an above avg one. He'd be like an 84 on Madden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted May 17, 2020 Report Share Posted May 17, 2020 16 minutes ago, Seeking6 said: I guess I'll just add championships and Purdue aren't part of the equation. I was just saying consistent tourney wins might for some be a qualifier for "a very good coach"......I don't know....Painter hasn't done that. So Tony Bennett is pretty much one second and last second shot from being an unsuccessful coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted May 17, 2020 Report Share Posted May 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, IU Scott said: So Tony Bennett is pretty much one second and last second shot from being an unsuccessful coach. He didn't truly say "unsuccessful". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted May 17, 2020 Report Share Posted May 17, 2020 19 minutes ago, Seeking6 said: I'm glad your thrilled. Again...my numbers and history numbers say otherwise. Bruce Weber was a better coach in terms of data and numbers at Illinois. Somehow Painter has taken on this mystique of someone that has accomplished so much. Guess I just don't see it for someone 15+ years on the job. The only thing Webber had over Painter is going to a final four. Overall winning percentages Painter is 67 percent Webber is 64 percent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted May 17, 2020 Report Share Posted May 17, 2020 6 minutes ago, btownqb said: He didn't truly say "unsuccessful". He said Painter has not had any success which was what I was arguing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted May 17, 2020 Report Share Posted May 17, 2020 6 minutes ago, IU Scott said: He said Painter has not had any success which was what I was arguing I mean overall it's kind of...meh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted May 17, 2020 Report Share Posted May 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, btownqb said: I mean overall it's kind of...meh I am not saying he is a great coach. I just think what I think successful means is different than what others think it means. Right now if I knew that we would go to three straight sweet 16's and an elite 8 in the next 3 years I wouldn't complain. That was what Painter had done before this past season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted May 17, 2020 Report Share Posted May 17, 2020 10 minutes ago, IU Scott said: I am not saying he is a great coach. I just think what I think successful means is different than what others think it means. Right now if I knew that we would go to three straight sweet 16's and an elite 8 in the next 3 years I wouldn't complain. That was what Painter had done before this past season. He sure wouldn't still be coaching at IU with that record... Just my opinion, but Purdue has always been satisfied with mediocrity... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted May 17, 2020 Report Share Posted May 17, 2020 Just now, IUFLA said: He sure wouldn't still be coaching at IU with that record... Just my opinion, but Purdue has always been satisfied with mediocrity... Not arguing that but to say he has not had any success is what I was talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCHoosier32 Posted May 17, 2020 Report Share Posted May 17, 2020 i hate Purdouche more than anyone other than maybe HTD. that said, Painter does a really good job for being at Purdouche. it is not an easy place to recruit. they don't have a national resume. i still know a TON of people in NC who don't even know what state it is in. anyway, Purdouche can't have standards of national championships because it ain't happnin, but to have them compete so well in the B1G every year is impressive for being them. he turns unheralded recruits into overachieving players because they play in a system that is based on toughness and defense. hard to argue that. i hate it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted May 17, 2020 Report Share Posted May 17, 2020 Did Boilers posts get deleted? I have notifications saying he quoted me three times in this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted May 17, 2020 Report Share Posted May 17, 2020 39 minutes ago, btownqb said: Did Boilers posts get deleted? I have notifications saying he quoted me three times in this thread. Same here, only supposedly quoted me only once... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stlboiler23 Posted May 17, 2020 Report Share Posted May 17, 2020 46 minutes ago, btownqb said: Did Boilers posts get deleted? I have notifications saying he quoted me three times in this thread. I deleted them myself. Didn’t want it to turn to a back and forth thread derail situation so I backed out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proud2BAHoosier Posted May 17, 2020 Report Share Posted May 17, 2020 18 minutes ago, Stlboiler23 said: I deleted them myself. Didn’t want it to turn to a back and forth thread derail situation so I backed out. Good man.... 😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted May 17, 2020 Report Share Posted May 17, 2020 23 minutes ago, Stlboiler23 said: I deleted them myself. Didn’t want it to turn to a back and forth thread derail situation so I backed out. He's a solid coach. His top end results wouldn't work at IU. If so, we wouldn't have let Crean walk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billingsley99 Posted May 17, 2020 Report Share Posted May 17, 2020 I for one think we should hold off on saying how bad of a coach Painter is until... well maybe we win a game or 2 against Purdue. Just my opinion but not a good look that we bash a coach that our coach has yet to defeat. Maybe it's just me. I know all the excuses blah blah blah. When we start beating them on a regular basis like we should I will hold my tongue on Painter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stlboiler23 Posted May 17, 2020 Report Share Posted May 17, 2020 15 minutes ago, btownqb said: He's a solid coach. His top end results wouldn't work at IU. If so, we wouldn't have let Crean walk. That begs the question: What top end results would work at IU? Is it being close to Knight’s results? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billingsley99 Posted May 17, 2020 Report Share Posted May 17, 2020 29 minutes ago, Stlboiler23 said: That begs the question: What top end results would work at IU? Is it being close to Knight’s results? We will never have a coach that our fanbase will ever fully support. The nature of our fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted May 17, 2020 Report Share Posted May 17, 2020 22 minutes ago, Billingsley99 said: We will never have a coach that our fanbase will ever fully support. The nature of our fans. I think there are some people who are only happy when they are miserable. Some fans would complain if we were 31-0 but lost in the championship game on a last second half court shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted May 17, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Stlboiler23 said: That begs the question: What top end results would work at IU? Is it being close to Knight’s results? Realistic ones from me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted May 17, 2020 Report Share Posted May 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Billingsley99 said: I for one think we should hold off on saying how bad of a coach Painter is until... well maybe we win a game or 2 against Purdue. Just my opinion but not a good look that we bash a coach that our coach has yet to defeat. Maybe it's just me. I know all the excuses blah blah blah. When we start beating them on a regular basis like we should I will hold my tongue on Painter If Billy gets a C on his report card and Jimmy gets a B, just because Jimmy did better than Billy does not make him a top student. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brass Cannon Posted May 17, 2020 Report Share Posted May 17, 2020 46 minutes ago, 5fouls said: If Billy gets a C on his report card and Jimmy gets a B, just because Jimmy did better than Billy does not make him a top student. So your saying Archie is worse than painter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted May 17, 2020 Report Share Posted May 17, 2020 2 hours ago, Stlboiler23 said: That begs the question: What top end results would work at IU? Is it being close to Knight’s results? I have no idea. However long he's been there without a final 4 isn't going to fly though. 🤷♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted May 17, 2020 Report Share Posted May 17, 2020 24 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said: So your saying Archie is worse than painter? At this point and time, Archie is a less accomplished coach than Painter. Can you argue differently? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimsonV Posted May 17, 2020 Report Share Posted May 17, 2020 1 hour ago, 5fouls said: At this point and time, Archie is a less accomplished coach than Painter. Can you argue differently? I can. Winning %’s and top end achievements are similar. Painter has been a head coach twice as long. CAM gets the nod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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