NCHoosier32 Posted March 29, 2020 Report Share Posted March 29, 2020 1 hour ago, IU Scott said: It is because they all took good shots and did not have t force shots at the end of the shot clock. 45 seconds was a good tie for a shot clock because it still allowed you to work on offence to get a good shot. It also prevented teams from just holding the ball the last 4 minutes of the game. Today at 30 seconds you just don't have time to run an offense where you move the ball and the players moved. You see way to many times where a player has to take a contested shot at the end of the clock that has about no chance to go in. definitely had a lot to do with shot selection. good coaches put guys in position to shoot shots they could make within the offense. big guys didn't work on proving they could shoot the 3. ah, i miss that type of game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted March 29, 2020 Report Share Posted March 29, 2020 24 minutes ago, NCHoosier32 said: definitely had a lot to do with shot selection. good coaches put guys in position to shoot shots they could make within the offense. big guys didn't work on proving they could shoot the 3. ah, i miss that type of game. So do I and just don't understand why coaches today can't see that is a more efficient way to run an offense than the ball screens we see today. Also back then you saw a team come into the front court and start their offense right away. Now we see them just come up and dribble a few seconds or go into the weave for 15 seconds before starting their offense. With this time off these coaches should look at these older games and see how well a lot of these offenses ran compared to wat we see today. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WI_Hoosier Posted April 10, 2020 Report Share Posted April 10, 2020 (edited) On 3/29/2020 at 2:36 PM, IU Scott said: I also think why offenses are not as good now is that the analytics has taken out the mid range game and you no longer see kids shooting a 12-15 foot shot. Those early 90's team had several guys who shot those 15 foot baseline shots at a great percentage. Plus the emphasis on "athleticism" due to the change in the way fouls ar called. So much hand checking and grabbing now limits the flow. There is a lot of NBA influence with pick and roll or drive and dish to highlight players "playmaking" abilities in the game now too. The college game has become alot more about the player versus the team. Your earlier comment about the 45 vs 30 shot clock is also spot on. It was added to increasing scoring, but did it? Watching IU's 87 run, they had several games in the 100s. I have also been watching some old Evansville games from 1989, they had 10 games where they scored 88 or more. Heck, one game they score 109 and another they scored 115. To further illustrated you point about the mid-range, IU scored 97 vs UNLV in the '87 semi and only attempted 4 threes, making 2. Edited April 10, 2020 by WI_Hoosier 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FKIM01 Posted April 10, 2020 Report Share Posted April 10, 2020 8 minutes ago, WI_Hoosier said: Your earlier comment about the 45 vs 30 shot clock is also spot on. It was added to increasing scoring, but did it? Watching IU's 87 run, they had several games in the 100s. I have also been watching some old Evansville games from 1989, they had 10 games where they scored 88 or more. Heck, one game they score 109 and another they scored 115. On the other hand, could you imagine how miserable it would be to watch Wisconsin with a 45-second clock...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WI_Hoosier Posted April 10, 2020 Report Share Posted April 10, 2020 1 minute ago, FKIM01 said: On the other hand, could you imagine how miserable it would be to watch Wisconsin with a 45-second clock...? LOL, I don't... and I live down the street from the Kohl Center now-a-days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indykev Posted April 10, 2020 Report Share Posted April 10, 2020 If anyone thought TJD wasnt coming back. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted April 25, 2020 Report Share Posted April 25, 2020 8 minutes ago, RoadToZion said: He will be putting his name in the draft soon I’d imagine. But with all intentions of coming back. Might as well enter yourself and get all the feedback you can. With how things are, I don't understand putting your name in if you don't attend to stay in the draft. There will be no workouts or combine so what will he find out that he can't already find out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJPaisley Posted April 25, 2020 Report Share Posted April 25, 2020 58 minutes ago, RoadToZion said: He will be putting his name in the draft soon I’d imagine. But with all intentions of coming back. Might as well enter yourself and get all the feedback you can. Cue the Hoosier fans overreacting if that happens. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FKIM01 Posted April 25, 2020 Report Share Posted April 25, 2020 52 minutes ago, IU Scott said: With how things are, I don't understand putting your name in if you don't attend to stay in the draft. There will be no workouts or combine so what will he find out that he can't already find out. As I understand it, he can still get feedback from NBA reps on what he needs to work on to successfully transition to the next level. It's free and there's no downside. I can't see why you wouldn't if you're eventually entertaining hopes of making the show. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted April 25, 2020 Report Share Posted April 25, 2020 4 minutes ago, RJPaisley said: Cue the Hoosier fans overreacting if that happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted April 25, 2020 Report Share Posted April 25, 2020 20 minutes ago, FKIM01 said: As I understand it, he can still get feedback from NBA reps on what he needs to work on to successfully transition to the next level. It's free and there's no downside. I can't see why you wouldn't if you're eventually entertaining hopes of making the show. Forget where I heard it but he could get that info without putting his name in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWatShot Posted April 25, 2020 Report Share Posted April 25, 2020 The deadline to declare is tomorrow night. I think if he was going to do it, he'd have already done it by now. Not sure why he would have waited this long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milehiiu Posted April 25, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2020 1 hour ago, FKIM01 said: As I understand it, he can still get feedback from NBA reps on what he needs to work on to successfully transition to the next level. It's free and there's no downside. I can't see why you wouldn't if you're eventually entertaining hopes of making the show. From my understanding. Any kid can get feedback, and return. So long as they don't hire an agent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
go_iu_bb Posted April 25, 2020 Report Share Posted April 25, 2020 1 minute ago, milehiiu said: From my understanding. Any kid can get feedback, and return. So long as they don't hire an agent. They can now hire an agent and retain eligibility as long as the agent is NCAA approved. They can even go through the draft and return if they're not drafted. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted April 25, 2020 Report Share Posted April 25, 2020 I would think given his fathers connections he could get all the info he wants...that said I have no problem going through the process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milehiiu Posted April 25, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2020 9 minutes ago, go_iu_bb said: They can now hire an agent and retain eligibility as long as the agent is NCAA approved. They can even go through the draft and return if they're not drafted. I was not aware of that. Obviously not up to speed. That's why I love this forum. So many informed members. Thanks for bringing me up to date. And thanks for being a Hoosier Sports Nation member. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
go_iu_bb Posted April 26, 2020 Report Share Posted April 26, 2020 8 minutes ago, milehiiu said: I was not aware of that. Obviously not up to speed. That's why I love this forum. So many informed members. Thanks for bringing me up to date. And thanks for being a Hoosier Sports Nation member. They are pretty new rules. This is either the first or second draft for which they've been in effect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUwins0708 Posted April 26, 2020 Report Share Posted April 26, 2020 He won’t get near the information as in years past with all these restrictions. He can’t workout for anyone. I’ll be surprised if he puts his name in because of this. I’ve been surprised before though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Hoopsier Posted April 26, 2020 Report Share Posted April 26, 2020 15 hours ago, IU Scott said: Forget where I heard it but he could get that info without putting his name in I wounder if his Dad knows anyone that could offer comments on areas of improvement? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU4Ever Posted April 26, 2020 Report Share Posted April 26, 2020 46 minutes ago, RoadToZion said: Some NBA facilities are opening May 1st. But isn't it for current players only and doesn't allow for interaction with the kids who've entered their name into the draft? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU4Ever Posted April 26, 2020 Report Share Posted April 26, 2020 6 minutes ago, RoadToZion said: I’m just pointing out that we are getting closer to NBA activities. Can’t hurt.... I really don't know what the answer is to my question. Hope someone can provide the answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUskim Posted April 26, 2020 Report Share Posted April 26, 2020 2 hours ago, IU4Ever said: I really don't know what the answer is to my question. Hope someone can provide the answer. Here is an article that will probably answer it. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/29099194/nba-reopening-team-practice-facilities-friday-where-local-restrictions-eased-sources-say%3fplatform=amp 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted April 26, 2020 Report Share Posted April 26, 2020 Not that he needed to say it again but TJD just posted he's back for certain. Called it unfinished business. 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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milehiiu Posted April 26, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2020 (edited) Yipee ! Thanks Seeking6 and hoosier exotics. Unfinished business, indeed. Edited April 26, 2020 by milehiiu 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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