KDB Posted June 2, 2020 Report Share Posted June 2, 2020 3-star athlete from Joliet, Illinois. IU received a crystal ball pick yesterday. https://247sports.com/Player/Trenten-Howland-46096628/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted June 2, 2020 Report Share Posted June 2, 2020 Pretty good player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leathernecks Posted June 2, 2020 Report Share Posted June 2, 2020 I saw him listed as an athlete, and expected to see someone with great speed and quickness, but he is definitely a running back in the Stevie Scott/Jordan Howard mold. He'd be a great compliment Holloman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDB Posted June 5, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2020 Committed to IU! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stlboiler23 Posted June 5, 2020 Report Share Posted June 5, 2020 Looks like a solid pick-up for you guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobSaccamanno Posted June 5, 2020 Report Share Posted June 5, 2020 Good news. Rebuilding that backfield, which we needed to do. Thank goodness we held onto Sampson James. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted June 6, 2020 Report Share Posted June 6, 2020 Maybe I don't pay close enough attention but 220 lb RB's with still a year to go in high school? I'll have to find some video. That seems big for a back at that age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leathernecks Posted June 6, 2020 Report Share Posted June 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Seeking6 said: Maybe I don't pay close enough attention but 220 lb RB's with still a year to go in high school? I'll have to find some video. That seems big for a back at that age. Hudl video He's a big kid, but he still has decent quickness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted June 6, 2020 Report Share Posted June 6, 2020 19 minutes ago, Leathernecks said: Hudl video He's a big kid, but he still has decent quickness. Playing against 8A competition too. Thanks for sharing that video. He's big and like you said still has the quickness/elusiveness. Given his size he should be able to see some time right away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted June 6, 2020 Report Share Posted June 6, 2020 Has anyone seen a 40? Usually they're posted at the beginning of the highlight video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted June 6, 2020 Report Share Posted June 6, 2020 1 minute ago, Sark said: He’s not a speedster which is why his ratings and offer list isn’t greater. Some schools saw him more as a linebacker due to his lack of explosive speed. Good back who fits the straight ahead mold of Stevie and Sampson James. I know. That's why I asked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leathernecks Posted June 6, 2020 Report Share Posted June 6, 2020 1 hour ago, btownqb said: Has anyone seen a 40? Usually they're posted at the beginning of the highlight video. I couldn't find one anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobSaccamanno Posted June 6, 2020 Report Share Posted June 6, 2020 I admit that I like to look at speed too. But elite long speed to me can be overrated in a back, as long as he has good wiggle. If you can get a guy you can’t catch when he breaks free, that’s a bonus, but not mandatory. If you have a back with vision and quickness, you have something. Throw in some power, as with this young man, and you have something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted June 6, 2020 Report Share Posted June 6, 2020 6 minutes ago, BobSaccamanno said: I admit that I like to look at speed too. But elite long speed to me can be overrated in a back, as long as he has good wiggle. If you can get a guy you can’t catch when he breaks free, that’s a bonus, but not mandatory. If you have a back with vision and quickness, you have something. Throw in some power, as with this young man, and you have something. Funny story.. the HS I coach at is 525 students (smallest school in 3A right now and should be moving back down the next cycle)... anyways We're an even front, 4-3, man coverage on the back end. We've ALWAYS played speed, but the last two years, we even committed more to it. The last two years, every starter has a 700lbs power club and its sub 4.9 in the 40. Last year our DL was 230, 205, 205, 195, but their 40 times were all between 4.8-4.9. The LBers and Safeties have keys they read, very opponent based game plans defensively. Speed kills. The idea is if we scout well enough, teach the scouting report well enough, and do the necessary work in the off season in the weightroom, we'll be very hard to score on because our speed will make up for the few mistakes we'll commit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobSaccamanno Posted June 6, 2020 Report Share Posted June 6, 2020 That’s good data. You would know way better than me but I totally agree on team speed. It’s huge. When you get it everywhere it compounds. When you have a couple of fast guys and then average speed elsewhere that’s one thing but when you are fast everywhere it’s compounding and intimidating. When you can run at defensive end, safety, linebacker etc. it can just be devastating. If I were building a team I’d look for power and strength with quickness at defensive tackle. But flank them with speed in the spots I mentioned as a priority. Your experience here is instructive. Running back is a wild card because you have to spot the right hole, blast through, make a guy miss. That’s why I emphasized wiggle over speed at that position in my post above. I guess 30 years or so ago there were two college backs my buddy and I argued about. One was Sammie Smith at Florida State and the other was Emmitt Smith at Florida. We argued over who would be the better pro. Sammie was something like 6’2 225 and could fly. Emmitt was shorter and not nearly as fast on the stopwatch. I argued for Sammie and he rode with Emmitt. Obviously I lost badly. In my defense Sammie was a top ten draft pick and Emmitt was top twenty. So the league agreed with me. We were woefully wrong. Sammie was a disaster and Emmitt was record setting. But I learned from it because it holds true that the back who has vision and make a guy miss will be successful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted June 6, 2020 Report Share Posted June 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Sark said: The Miami Hurricanes perfected this approach a few decades ago, with great success. Most defensive coaches followed suit, and it’s for sure the Tom Allen formula. Where are you a head coach? Not. I'm an assistant at Brownstown, which is where I played, as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobSaccamanno Posted June 6, 2020 Report Share Posted June 6, 2020 There's hardly a job out there that beats being a teacher and coach. The impact on young people is incalculable. Do you teach too? What class? I know Leathernecks teaches science, I believe physics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leathernecks Posted June 6, 2020 Report Share Posted June 6, 2020 1 hour ago, BobSaccamanno said: There's hardly a job out there that beats being a teacher and coach. The impact on young people is incalculable. Do you teach too? What class? I know Leathernecks teaches science, I believe physics. Physics and chemistry, and I coach golf. I do love it. Could work in a lab and make more, but I really enjoy teaching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted June 6, 2020 Report Share Posted June 6, 2020 1 hour ago, BobSaccamanno said: There's hardly a job out there that beats being a teacher and coach. The impact on young people is incalculable. Do you teach too? What class? I know Leathernecks teaches science, I believe physics. Yes. I teach Alt Ed at the HS. Online program/special ed students/students that struggle in the traditional classroom setting/some odd balls/some kids who need an asshole male that will also defend them. 🤷♂️ Honestly my job description lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leathernecks Posted June 6, 2020 Report Share Posted June 6, 2020 21 minutes ago, btownqb said: Yes. I teach Alt Ed at the HS. Online program/special ed students/students that struggle in the traditional classroom setting/some odd balls/some kids who need an asshole male that will also defend them. 🤷♂️ Honestly my job description lol I really enjoy how much that job seems to fit you lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted June 6, 2020 Report Share Posted June 6, 2020 13 minutes ago, Leathernecks said: I really enjoy how much that job seems to fit you lol. Truthfully, you're right lol some of these kids make some DUMB mistakes... and so did I. A good mentor/teacher/coach is just a hypocrite with experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leathernecks Posted June 10, 2020 Report Share Posted June 10, 2020 This is a sick dunk by Howland. Have to be a great athlete to throw one down like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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