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Thought I'd start a thread for Freshmen updates as they get on campus. 

I've been curious (outside of Lander) who's going to step up and get the most playing time out of the remaining 3 freshman. My gut says Galloway because it seems he's the most polished right now. 

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All three. Galloway, Leal, and Geronimo are in B-town as of today.  June 12.

I think Galloway and Leal are going to shock a few people. Being locked in the house i've watched everything i could have and they changed my mind. They are both basketball players, not athletes that

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We have 11 scholarship players, right? I don't project an 8 man rotation so one of Galloway, Leal and Geronimo is going to get some serious playing time - likely two of them (as injuries are inevitable). Let's hope Galloway's shooting woes are truly just a result of his wrist injury and that injury is fully healed. If Galloway can become a 40% 3 point shooter - he is going to be excellent at IU.

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I think Jordan’s athleticism and willingness to defend will see him getting playing time. Clearly Lander will play the most of the freshman...but I think Armaan and Hunter see the biggest influx of minutes. I think both are in for big seasons. 

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10 hours ago, tdhoosier said:

Thought I'd start a thread for Freshmen updates as they get on campus. 

I've been curious (outside of Lander) who's going to step up and get the most playing time out of the remaining 3 freshman. My gut says Galloway because it seems he's the most polished right now. 

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Careful..that meme could be considered porn for Boiler fans lol.

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43 minutes ago, Bob said:

So do you think Archie will pick up a transfer to take Justin spot?

I really doubt it and there probably are not many players out there now that would be worth taking.

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15 hours ago, 5fouls said:

One of the interesting subplots to the Justin Smith transfer is whether or not it takes a redshirt possibility off the table for one of the freshmen.

it seems so rare for anyone to redshirt anymore though right?  no one cares to be able to play 4 or 5 years because no one plans to stay that long.  right?

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39 minutes ago, NCHoosier32 said:

it seems so rare for anyone to redshirt anymore though right?  no one cares to be able to play 4 or 5 years because no one plans to stay that long.  right?

On IU's current roster, Race Thompson is an example of a non-injury redshirt

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16 hours ago, 5fouls said:

One of the interesting subplots to the Justin Smith transfer is whether or not it takes a redshirt possibility off the table for one of the freshmen.

What Freshmen would be likely...I can’t imagine Leal or Galloway were told your going to red shirt when they signed up...Geronimo maybe

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2 minutes ago, HoosierJax said:

What Freshmen would be likely...I can’t imagine Leal or Galloway were told your going to red shirt when they signed up...Geronimo maybe

I personally think the Smith transfer takes the possibility off the table,  Big difference in having 12 (11 if one redshirts) versus 11 (only 10 if one redshirts).  That said, I'm fairly certain that all 3 bring solid academics into college, so that would not be a factor.  As a result, you would be looking at the ability and opportunity to contribute.  Geronimo really intrigues me.  I feel a Vic vibe when I look at him.  I would have had a hard time seeing it be him. 

That would have left Leal and Galloway.  They are similar in size, but have different games.  Leal is the better shooter, which we need.  I perceive Galloway as tougher, which I also think we need.  One factor is whether either one would gets an injury, even something like a nagging ankle sprain.  If you're going to miss 3-4 weeks of the season because of injury and possibly not be a regular member of the rotation when you do come back, why not redshirt?  This will sound like a cop-out.  But, if I was the coach, and I was forced to choose one to redshirt, I would have to wait and see how preseason practice went and how each meshed with the team.  

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I'm not sure it's entirely within their control, at this point. Early on it seems like all the freshmen get an opportunity to show what they can do. Defending your position would be my first criteria for minutes. Then will any of them show the ability to consistently knock down shots or create offense? But it likely comes down to what rotations work.

With only three post players inside it's going to result in situations where others to have to play out of position. That will dictate who gets time.  If Geronimo can defend and rebound with his athleticism, he'd be the obvious choice. Plus, he gets some minutes because Race will be forced to play more inside (Brunk fouls a lot) and his competition for minutes is really just Hunter if you are looking at the Forward position. We hope Hunter has a big year but it is far from certain. Still, if Geronimo cannot defend or rebound the rotation changes.

If they have to go small I'd guess Rob, Lander, and Durham will get the majority of minutes with Franklin being the next guy in rotation getting plenty of minutes also. Just not sure if Leal's shooting outweighs Galloway's all-around game. And will it matter? Once you start talking about the 9 - 11 guys, how many minutes are there to go around anyway?

The good news is, they will be able to settle it in practice and on the court. Hoping that raises everyone's game and Archie has a lot of options to play the guys that have earned it.

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1 hour ago, 5fouls said:

I personally think the Smith transfer takes the possibility off the table,  Big difference in having 12 (11 if one redshirts) versus 11 (only 10 if one redshirts).  That said, I'm fairly certain that all 3 bring solid academics into college, so that would not be a factor.  As a result, you would be looking at the ability and opportunity to contribute.  Geronimo really intrigues me.  I feel a Vic vibe when I look at him.  I would have had a hard time seeing it be him. 

That would have left Leal and Galloway.  They are similar in size, but have different games.  Leal is the better shooter, which we need.  I perceive Galloway as tougher, which I also think we need.  One factor is whether either one would gets an injury, even something like a nagging ankle sprain.  If you're going to miss 3-4 weeks of the season because of injury and possibly not be a regular member of the rotation when you do come back, why not redshirt?  This will sound like a cop-out.  But, if I was the coach, and I was forced to choose one to redshirt, I would have to wait and see how preseason practice went and how each meshed with the team.  

I’m in favor of not redshirting,never have liked it...although RMK had good luck with a few players...these kids nowadays want to play and unless they get injured then it makes sense (Hunter)...I think all 3 players can have a role,even if it’s a small role starting out.

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I like redshirting.  I know it's a tough sell.  But, the kid gets to practice with the team and it allows his body a year to catch up to the older players.  Ultimately, if I'm a player and I know a future in the pros is unlikely, I would seriously think about it so that my college career would benefit.  Some may view it as a lost year, but being on the team and not playing (think Damezi), is a lost year as well.  And, it would give me an excuse to stay on campus for another year.  No reason to rush getting out into the real world if the school is paying for my education.

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16 minutes ago, 5fouls said:

I like redshirting.  I know it's a tough sell.  But, the kid gets to practice with the team and it allows his body a year to catch up to the older players.  Ultimately, if I'm a player and I know a future in the pros is unlikely, I would seriously think about it so that my college career would benefit.  Some may view it as a lost year, but being on the team and not playing (think Damezi), is a lost year as well.  And, it would give me an excuse to stay on campus for another year.  No reason to rush getting out into the real world if the school is paying for my education.

Villanova sure has been successful redshirting kids

I read where 6 players on the 2018 National Championship team had redshirted at one time or another...Mikal Bridges, Eric Paschall, Phil Booth, Donte DiVincenzo, Tim Delaney, and Omari Spellman...

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35 minutes ago, 5fouls said:

I like redshirting.  I know it's a tough sell.  But, the kid gets to practice with the team and it allows his body a year to catch up to the older players.  Ultimately, if I'm a player and I know a future in the pros is unlikely, I would seriously think about it so that my college career would benefit.  Some may view it as a lost year, but being on the team and not playing (think Damezi), is a lost year as well.  And, it would give me an excuse to stay on campus for another year.  No reason to rush getting out into the real world if the school is paying for my education.

Just look at Race. His body - development and fitness - was not ready as a frosh, and was significantly different, and ready, by start of this past season, and of course he gradually asserted himself this past season in a way he clearly would not have been ready to do at the start of his true frosh season. Redshirting works for certain players. If the staff can appropriately identify who, and if the player is receptive, it can work well.

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To redshirt a player today you have to really think that player will be around for 5 years.  I like redshirting because I think you will get more out of the player in his 5th year than you will get out of his freshman year.  Like others have said programs like UW and Villanova had used redshirting really well and built great programs with it.

The problem today is that kids can come in their freshman year with more than a semester worth of credits before they even get to college.  Also most players today think they are professional players do they won't be willing to stay 5 years in school.  Also you could lose that player to a grad transfer so coaches might not want to put in the time and effort in to only lose that player.

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1 hour ago, IU Scott said:

To redshirt a player today you have to really think that player will be around for 5 years.  I like redshirting because I think you will get more out of the player in his 5th year than you will get out of his freshman year.  Like others have said programs like UW and Villanova had used redshirting really well and built great programs with it.

The problem today is that kids can come in their freshman year with more than a semester worth of credits before they even get to college.  Also most players today think they are professional players do they won't be willing to stay 5 years in school.  Also you could lose that player to a grad transfer so coaches might not want to put in the time and effort in to only lose that player.

That was my thought...better be pretty sure they will be here 5 years.  Otherwise, what is the point of redshirting other than eliminating expectations of playing time?

It would really suck to redshirt a kid and then lose him as a grad transfer just when he was really contributing.

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A lot of parents effectively 'redshirt' their children nowadays by holding them back a year before starting kindergarten.  My kids have classmates that have late/spring / early summer birthdays whose parents delayed their start of grade school and, as a result, are a full year older than other kids in the class.  This is often done so the kid can exceed both academically and athletically.

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26 minutes ago, Sark said:

Didn’t he reclassify, making his true freshman year really his senior year of high school? Made sense to sit him for a year. Lander is at a position of need, plus he doesn’t intend to be a four year kid, so he’ll play right away. Leal and Galloway aren’t ready to contribute, but I’m sure they’ll play a little.

Yes, he reclassified as a 2018 to 2017. I don’t really buy into the you have to be a 4-year player to reclassify and that’s not generally how coaches assess it. It’s where the committed player is, from the standpoint of readiness to contribute, health, strength etc., and the depth at his position

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Race was also recovering from an injury as well correct? It was like getting a year of rehab with the best doctors and fitness people. I’m for it if the kid is in agreement and wants to be in school 5 years...heck they may want to get their masters while they are at it. More often I’m in favor if there is a glut of players at their position and to space out scholarships and if it’s a big (typically take longer to develop)....but obviously a kid and their parents have to be involved with it. In theory it would be great to have a kid or two redshirt but with having two open scholarships we likely don’t have that luxury.

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