WRSMick55 Posted April 25, 2022 Report Share Posted April 25, 2022 1 hour ago, IUFLA said: CJ might be the sleeper in this class... Agree! When I saw this on twitter I replied “ definitely the most underrated of the incoming players ; people are going to be a little surprised. If he can play defense to Woody’s satisfaction…….. “ 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted April 25, 2022 Report Share Posted April 25, 2022 1 hour ago, NotIThatLives said: Looks like we finally replaced Troy Williams and he can already shoot we don't have to wait till his Junior year. Can someone explain to me why he's rated in the 140s? I've been on CJ train for a couple years. Best guess is he was ranked in 140's because they didn't have the normal summer stuff last two years for more exposure....i.e. recruiting guys didn't see him. I'll say the same as I said in other thread. Most underrated guy out of Indy in a long time. I'm not saying Greg Graham...but he's as close as a guy I can see but CJ has better shot and more size at same age. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotIThatLives Posted April 25, 2022 Report Share Posted April 25, 2022 25 minutes ago, Seeking6 said: I've been on CJ train for a couple years. Best guess is he was ranked in 140's because they didn't have the normal summer stuff last two years for more exposure....i.e. recruiting guys didn't see him. I'll say the same as I said in other thread. Most underrated guy out of Indy in a long time. I'm not saying Greg Graham...but he's as close as a guy I can see but CJ has better shot and more size at same age. Hasn't he had 2 injuries the last few years as well? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted April 25, 2022 Report Share Posted April 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, NotIThatLives said: Hasn't he had 2 injuries the last few years as well? Yep. Missed a chunk last two years. JHS and Malik are getting the attention and rightfully so....but Kaleb and CJ are really, really good in their own right. They have the feeling to me of like Oladipo, Sheehey, Juwan Morgan, OG types....where they were pigeon holed way down the recruiting rankings but got to campus and never looked back. I know Kaleb is ranked in the 70's...but I actually think he's a borderline 25 type of player. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zlinedavid Posted April 25, 2022 Report Share Posted April 25, 2022 4 hours ago, IUFLA said: His form is excellent...release right at the top of the jump...and as Bill Raftery (who had a b-day over the weekend...Happy B-Day Raft!) "He does a great job getting his puppies organized." Here's to hoping that he drains some ONIONS then. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluegrassIU Posted April 25, 2022 Report Share Posted April 25, 2022 4 hours ago, ephul said: There's no denying this kid has a picturesque jumper. If he can just come in a few minutes a game and knock in a few threes, we will be a MUCH better team. He is considerably underrated as an athlete and competitor too. He is more than a shooter. I love him coming in under the radar. He can play! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted April 25, 2022 Report Share Posted April 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, Zlinedavid said: Here's to hoping that he drains some ONIONS then. And induces some "lingering lingerie!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steubenhoosier Posted April 25, 2022 Report Share Posted April 25, 2022 4 hours ago, Zlinedavid said: Here's to hoping that he drains some ONIONS then. 4 hours ago, IUFLA said: And induces some "lingering lingerie!" Can he play “man to man?” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indykev Posted April 25, 2022 Report Share Posted April 25, 2022 Here's hoping he learns to get back on D after a made shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted April 25, 2022 Report Share Posted April 25, 2022 26 minutes ago, Steubenhoosier said: Can he play “man to man?” And get a "nickel-dimer" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jv1972iu Posted April 25, 2022 Report Share Posted April 25, 2022 2 hours ago, Steubenhoosier said: Can he play “man to man?” Only if he "gets those puppies organized." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loviubb Posted April 26, 2022 Report Share Posted April 26, 2022 Not saying how good or under the radar C. J. is but a young man came in back in the day under rated with a stacked recruiting class. He was injured in High School and he turned out pretty good! Not saying C. J. is as good or will be Calbert Cheaney is still 1 of the best!! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blazin Hazin Posted April 26, 2022 Report Share Posted April 26, 2022 We've had a lot of flops lately in the last two classes. Lander was obviously a bust. Early returns on Bates and Duncomb were underwhelming. Don't we have to get a little lucky at some point and get a diamond in the rough? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ledies22 Posted April 26, 2022 Report Share Posted April 26, 2022 3 hours ago, Blazin Hazin said: We've had a lot of flops lately in the last two classes. Lander was obviously a bust. Early returns on Bates and Duncomb were underwhelming. Don't we have to get a little lucky at some point and get a diamond in the rough? I think youre getting a little overzealous here with this post entirely. You're talking about 3 people that are/should have been freshman this past season. Lander will be a good ball player, but probably not live up the the fan created hype with the 5 star status. I dont think anyone thought Bates would be a world beater his first year. And did anyone expect Duncomb to play much if at all last year? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadToZion Posted April 26, 2022 Report Share Posted April 26, 2022 6'5 with a good stroke and can create his own shot. He needs to bulk up and work on his D. If his defense gets better, he will be getting PT before a lot of people think. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zlinedavid Posted April 26, 2022 Report Share Posted April 26, 2022 21 minutes ago, RoadToZion said: 6'5 with a good stroke and can create his own shot. He needs to bulk up and work on his D. If his defense gets better, he will be getting PT before a lot of people think. The bulking up works in parallel with his D improving. He's athletic, but on the thin side. He'd get shoved around by a top level team right now if he had any type of extended minutes. Give him mop-up minutes for a year while the training staff shoves ribeyes and chicken down his throat. He'll get there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted April 26, 2022 Report Share Posted April 26, 2022 38 minutes ago, RoadToZion said: 6'5 with a good stroke and can create his own shot. He needs to bulk up and work on his D. If his defense gets better, he will be getting PT before a lot of people think. Says he's 6'6... I assume CJ hasn't spent an awful lot of time working in the weight room. 6'6 190 lbs is easily achievable. These are the types of frames we've been looking for on the wing, absolutely no doubt!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobSaccamanno Posted April 26, 2022 Report Share Posted April 26, 2022 Gunn, Bates, Banks, JHS, Newton….there is a type here. Lot of switchability. Length with quickness. You can see what Woodson is trying to recruit. It’s plain as day. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted April 26, 2022 Report Share Posted April 26, 2022 2 minutes ago, BobSaccamanno said: Gunn, Bates, Banks, JHS, Newton….there is a type here. Lot of switchability. Length with quickness. You can see what Woodson is trying to recruit. It’s plain as day. I think Banks is a 4. But..... I don't truly believe in positions to begin with! 1 PG 3 wings (one that is 6'7+) 1 rim runner/rim protector 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobSaccamanno Posted April 26, 2022 Report Share Posted April 26, 2022 3 minutes ago, btownqb said: I think Banks is a 4. But..... I don't truly believe in positions to begin with! 1 PG 3 wings (one that is 6'7+) 1 rim runner/rim protector I agree Banks is a likely a 4. But he looks agile and can handle pretty well for a four. On defense, I could see him switch with a 3 on D on occasion. Malik is probably more of an old school 4 who you might not want chasing around a 2 guard. But regardless, I can see Woody’s vision. I keep talking about Arkansas because I like them. But I think we may look like them. Their 2-4 guys have a look to the point that I can’t tell them apart in game action the way they play. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted April 26, 2022 Report Share Posted April 26, 2022 1 minute ago, BobSaccamanno said: I agree Banks is a likely a 4. But he looks agile and can handle pretty well for a four. On defense, I could see him switch with a 3 on D on occasion. Malik is probably more of an old school 4 who you might not want chasing around a 2 guard. But regardless, I can see Woody’s vision. I keep talking about Arkansas because I like them. But I think we may look like them. Their 2-4 guys have a look to the point that I can’t tell them apart in game action the way they play. yuuuup! Skill level trumps all. I think... mmm... we are getting uber close to being where we need to be talent wise. The development just has to be there now! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reacher Posted April 26, 2022 Report Share Posted April 26, 2022 5 hours ago, btownqb said: Says he's 6'6... I assume CJ hasn't spent an awful lot of time working in the weight room. 6'6 190 lbs is easily achievable. These are the types of frames we've been looking for on the wing, absolutely no doubt!! 6'6" 200 lbs... Worked for MJ in his prime and yours truly up to age 45 or so 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Between2Halls Posted April 26, 2022 Report Share Posted April 26, 2022 On 4/25/2022 at 10:32 AM, Seeking6 said: I've been on CJ train for a couple years. Best guess is he was ranked in 140's because they didn't have the normal summer stuff last two years for more exposure....i.e. recruiting guys didn't see him. I'll say the same as I said in other thread. Most underrated guy out of Indy in a long time. I'm not saying Greg Graham...but he's as close as a guy I can see but CJ has better shot and more size at same age. Graham is the guy I was thinking about as well, but since I haven’t seen much of Gunn outside of brief highlights I didn’t know if I was way off in that. Looking forward to seeing him develop. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted April 26, 2022 Report Share Posted April 26, 2022 7 hours ago, btownqb said: I think Banks is a 4. But..... I don't truly believe in positions to begin with! 1 PG 3 wings (one that is 6'7+) 1 rim runner/rim protector @5 championships what was funny? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parakeet Jones Posted April 26, 2022 Report Share Posted April 26, 2022 IMO Greg Graham is the most underrated Hoosier of all time. That’s pretty high praise making that comparison. If he is 50% the player Graham was, we got a good one. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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