IU247 Posted September 9, 2020 Report Share Posted September 9, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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milehiiu Posted September 9, 2020 Report Share Posted September 9, 2020 Interesting. Thanks for the contribution...247. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU247 Posted September 9, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2020 If someone predicts a perfect bracket after this they should win 100mil+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muddy River Posted September 9, 2020 Report Share Posted September 9, 2020 Participation trophies for everyone!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdhoosier Posted September 9, 2020 Report Share Posted September 9, 2020 I think it's great. Why not mix it up this year? Everything else is mixed up. Has anything been proposed about how they'll rank teams? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted September 9, 2020 Report Share Posted September 9, 2020 This better be just for this year because it should be a reward to make the tournament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parakeet Jones Posted September 9, 2020 Report Share Posted September 9, 2020 No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted September 9, 2020 Report Share Posted September 9, 2020 I don't know...in this kooky year it would be fitting. It'd be like the old one class Indiana basketball tournament...and I loved that... Only downside I can see is it would pretty much render the trivia question "what was the last year ????? made the NCAA tournament?" moot... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milehiiu Posted September 9, 2020 Report Share Posted September 9, 2020 5 minutes ago, IUFLA said: I don't know...in this kooky year it would be fitting. It'd be like the old one class Indiana basketball tournament...and I loved that... BRING BACK ONE CLASS INDIANA BASKETBALL ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrflynn03 Posted September 9, 2020 Report Share Posted September 9, 2020 I'm gonna go with a no. I just don't see something like this happening and then going back to the way it was. Tournament has had enough changes over the years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted September 9, 2020 Report Share Posted September 9, 2020 1 hour ago, tdhoosier said: Has anything been proposed about how they'll rank teams? Sectional, regional, semi-state, state...😁 Actually, it would be good to divide the country up into 4 regions and have the schools who are physically within those regions play for a Final 4 slot ( north-south divided by the old Mason-Dixon line extended to the west coast and east-west divided by the Mississippi River)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
go_iu_bb Posted September 9, 2020 Report Share Posted September 9, 2020 It's probably just for this year so the hand-wringing about the importance of the regular season is probably moot. But I will say that when the tournament decided to allow teams who weren't conference champions, a lot of hand-wringing probably happened and people probably worried that the regular season and conference championships wouldn't matter any more. Sure, the conference championship still matters somewhat with the automatic bid but that only applies to bad P5 teams, mediocre to bad mid-major teams, and all low-major teams. One could argue that the conference tournaments invalidates the regular season. So I think we've seen all these arguments before and it hasn't ruined college basketball. College ball has been hurt more by talent leaving early (nothing to really be done about that), some rule changes, and the officiating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milehiiu Posted September 9, 2020 Report Share Posted September 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, go_iu_bb said: College ball has been hurt more by talent leaving early (nothing to really be done about that), some rule changes, and the officiating. No truer words were ever said. GET RID OF THE OAD ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted September 9, 2020 Report Share Posted September 9, 2020 7 minutes ago, mrflynn03 said: I'm gonna go with a no. I just don't see something like this happening and then going back to the way it was. Tournament has had enough changes over the years. It was perfect when it was at 64 without play in game's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted September 9, 2020 Report Share Posted September 9, 2020 7 minutes ago, IUFLA said: Sectional, regional, semi-state, state...😁 Actually, it would be good to divide the country up into 4 regions and have the schools who are physically within those regions play for a Final 4 slot ( north-south divided by the old Mason-Dixon line extended to the west coast and east-west divided by the Mississippi River)... The thing there are a lot less teams out west so it would be hard to have each region to be divided equally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted September 9, 2020 Report Share Posted September 9, 2020 7 minutes ago, IU Scott said: The thing there are a lot less teams out west so it would be hard to have each region to be divided equally. My suggestion was a general guideline. If you look at the D1 schools per state, I'm sure it could be worked out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted September 9, 2020 Report Share Posted September 9, 2020 I wouldn't just change things up because coaches want it because coaches who get to the tournament usually keeps their job. Of course coaches would want everyone to make it so they can keep their jobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATX_sig Posted September 9, 2020 Report Share Posted September 9, 2020 I think it would a great idea. The reward to winning your conference is get a high seed in this tournament and maybe hosting a regional of 5-6 teams for the Home fans that plays into the final 64. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted September 9, 2020 Report Share Posted September 9, 2020 So, now people will say Archie made the tourney just because everyone else did. And, how's that work for coaches at smaller schools with a pay incentive for making the tourney. This idea has 'lame' written all over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted September 9, 2020 Report Share Posted September 9, 2020 1 hour ago, IUFLA said: I don't know...in this kooky year it would be fitting. It'd be like the old one class Indiana basketball tournament...and I loved that... Big difference between small school college basketball teams and small school high school basketball teams. The only 'small' schools that would have a chance to advance beyond a regional in high school are private schools that have the benefit of recruiting. The Milan Miracle would have zero chance of happening in today's world. Is this a fair fight? 9 10 11 12 Total Carmel High School 1359 1338 1267 1322 5286 AAAA Milan High School 77 96 97 110 380 AA And, it's worth noting that there are 143 schools in the state eligible for the tournament that are SMALLER than Milan. Back in the late 70's and early 80's, the largest schools in the state had about 2,000 students. The size discrepancy was not nearly as significant as it is now. As great as the one class tourney was when it existed, it is an idea that whose time has passed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted September 9, 2020 Report Share Posted September 9, 2020 3 minutes ago, 5fouls said: Big difference between small school college basketball teams and small school high school basketball teams. The only 'small' schools that would have a chance to advance beyond a regional in high school are private schools that have the benefit of recruiting. The Milan Miracle would have zero chance of happening in today's world. Is this a fair fight? 9 10 11 12 Total Carmel High School 1359 1338 1267 1322 5286 AAAA Milan High School 77 96 97 110 380 AA And, it's worth noting that there are 143 schools in the state eligible for the tournament that are SMALLER than Milan. Back in the late 70's and early 80's, the largest schools in the state had about 2,000 students. The size discrepancy was not nearly as significant as it is now. As great as the one class tourney was when it existed, it is an idea that whose time has passed. I don't think I lobbied for Indiana to go back to single class basketball... I said a one year variation in the NCAA Tournament under the current circumstances would be fun and a good idea... And just to be clear on the 1 class basketball stuff...it was a big deal when I was in high school for a team to win a sectional. Regional and beyond was the stuff of legend for a lot of schools... Milan 1954 didn't necessarily have to happen for it to be an unforgettable year for most schools... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted September 9, 2020 Report Share Posted September 9, 2020 37 minutes ago, IUFLA said: I don't think I lobbied for Indiana to go back to single class basketball... I said a one year variation in the NCAA Tournament under the current circumstances would be fun and a good idea... And just to be clear on the 1 class basketball stuff...it was a big deal when I was in high school for a team to win a sectional. Regional and beyond was the stuff of legend for a lot of schools... Milan 1954 didn't necessarily have to happen for it to be an unforgettable year for most schools... Agree on the winning the sectional was a huge deal for the smaller schools back in the day. In 1987 my high school Knightstown won the New Castle sectional for the first time since 1954. That week our school was pretty much closed down because we had pep rallies and games in the gym most days in the week before regionals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3Ballin Posted September 9, 2020 Report Share Posted September 9, 2020 1 hour ago, 5fouls said: Big difference between small school college basketball teams and small school high school basketball teams. The only 'small' schools that would have a chance to advance beyond a regional in high school are private schools that have the benefit of recruiting. The Milan Miracle would have zero chance of happening in today's world. Is this a fair fight? 9 10 11 12 Total Carmel High School 1359 1338 1267 1322 5286 AAAA Milan High School 77 96 97 110 380 AA And, it's worth noting that there are 143 schools in the state eligible for the tournament that are SMALLER than Milan. Back in the late 70's and early 80's, the largest schools in the state had about 2,000 students. The size discrepancy was not nearly as significant as it is now. As great as the one class tourney was when it existed, it is an idea that whose time has passed. For the most part I agree with the "size matters" argument; but then schools like Barr-Reeve (even before Hopf) that prove year in and year out you don't have to be the biggest if you know what you're doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy1987 Posted September 9, 2020 Report Share Posted September 9, 2020 Not a fan of this idea. Just end up with a lot of ugly basketball. Watching a #1 seed play the #345 team in the country doesn't sound appealing at all. Only way I'd be for this idea is if the regular season doesn't happen. Go Hoosiers!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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