go_iu_bb Posted September 9, 2020 Report Share Posted September 9, 2020 1 hour ago, 5fouls said: Big difference between small school college basketball teams and small school high school basketball teams. The only 'small' schools that would have a chance to advance beyond a regional in high school are private schools that have the benefit of recruiting. The Milan Miracle would have zero chance of happening in today's world. Is this a fair fight? 9 10 11 12 Total Carmel High School 1359 1338 1267 1322 5286 AAAA Milan High School 77 96 97 110 380 AA And, it's worth noting that there are 143 schools in the state eligible for the tournament that are SMALLER than Milan. Back in the late 70's and early 80's, the largest schools in the state had about 2,000 students. The size discrepancy was not nearly as significant as it is now. As great as the one class tourney was when it existed, it is an idea that whose time has passed. When I attended Bloomington North in the '90s, the total size of the school was around the size of a single Carmel class, maybe smaller. IIRC we were in the 1200-1300 range, maybe even 1100-1200. I think Bloomington South at that time was around 2k students. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted September 9, 2020 Report Share Posted September 9, 2020 I was just on here a few minutes ago but now the board has changed. Is it just my computer or has there been some changes to the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpiderMonkey Posted September 9, 2020 Report Share Posted September 9, 2020 5 minutes ago, IU Scott said: I was just on here a few minutes ago but now the board has changed. Is it just my computer or has there been some changes to the board. Board updated about 1t minutes ago with security fixes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13th&Jackson Posted September 9, 2020 Report Share Posted September 9, 2020 So they're going to put 353 teams in a bubble for several months? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FKIM01 Posted September 9, 2020 Report Share Posted September 9, 2020 3 hours ago, IU Scott said: I wouldn't just change things up because coaches want it because coaches who get to the tournament usually keeps their job. Of course coaches would want everyone to make it so they can keep their jobs. What about bonuses for making the tournament? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted September 9, 2020 Report Share Posted September 9, 2020 1 minute ago, FKIM01 said: What about bonuses for making the tournament? That ad well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted September 9, 2020 Report Share Posted September 9, 2020 29 minutes ago, IU Scott said: I was just on here a few minutes ago but now the board has changed. Is it just my computer or has there been some changes to the board. Good updates. The previous version was kind of 1980's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted September 10, 2020 Report Share Posted September 10, 2020 I don't know about letting everyone in...but they could double it to 128 with certain criteria in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybergates Posted September 10, 2020 Report Share Posted September 10, 2020 Everyone is sorta in already with conference winners (tournament in most cases/reg. season in some) getting auto bids. Don't see the point of letting everyone in "again" Probably should make it double or triple elimination while they're at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IowaHoosierFan Posted September 10, 2020 Report Share Posted September 10, 2020 i don't think you can do something worth watching with 324 teams. Maybe have a power5 tourney and a non power5 tourney and when you get to the final 4 for both, you bring them together and have a big 8 and see who makes it through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steubenhoosier Posted September 10, 2020 Report Share Posted September 10, 2020 Not seen this discussed yet... The way I understand it, payouts from the NCAA for the tournament are based on units. A year or so ago, each unit was worth about $280,000. Each of the 32 conferences that have an automatic bid got paid one unit. The rest of the units were paid out based on performance. For each at-large bid, an extra unit was paid. As teams advance, the conference gets paid an extra unit, until the Final Four. Most conferences share the money equally between all members. Under the proposed structure, aren't these payments going to get watered down? I can't imagine the NCAA paying out the full value for 300+ schools being involved. With the pandemic wreaking havoc on athletic department budgets, I can't see Power 5 conferences agreeing to lower payouts. Just don't see how this would be feasible financially as well as the logistical nightmare of trying to schedule this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parakeet Jones Posted September 10, 2020 Report Share Posted September 10, 2020 https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/ncaa-shoots-down-acc-proposal-to-hold-2021-ncaa-tournament-with-every-division-i-team/ Thankfully, this looks like a no go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted September 10, 2020 Report Share Posted September 10, 2020 11 minutes ago, Parakeet Jones said: https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/ncaa-shoots-down-acc-proposal-to-hold-2021-ncaa-tournament-with-every-division-i-team/ Thankfully, this looks like a no go. Have the University Presidents signed off on it yet? Asking for a friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milehiiu Posted September 10, 2020 Report Share Posted September 10, 2020 19 minutes ago, Parakeet Jones said: https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/ncaa-shoots-down-acc-proposal-to-hold-2021-ncaa-tournament-with-every-division-i-team/ Thankfully, this looks like a no go. We are in a pandemic. Honestly I liked the idea for JUST ONE YEAR. Having said that.... I have no idea how it could have been pulled off. BRING BACK ONE CLASS BB TO INDIANA. Revive the dream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted September 10, 2020 Report Share Posted September 10, 2020 1 hour ago, milehiiu said: We are in a pandemic. Honestly I liked the idea for JUST ONE YEAR. Having said that.... I have no idea how it could have been pulled off. BRING BACK ONE CLASS BB TO INDIANA. Revive the dream. Single class basketball is never coming back...Whitko grad '85, we made it to the FF in '91 by divine providence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milehiiu Posted September 10, 2020 Report Share Posted September 10, 2020 52 minutes ago, rico said: Single class basketball is never coming back...Whitko grad '85, we made it to the FF in '91 by divine providence. And my old high school made it to the 3rd class championship game with Brandon Dawson vs Washington with Cody Zeller. All the while watching that game... I could not get it out of my mind....what if....both of those two teams made it to the championship game.... sans class bb. Oh... I know you are right. Indiana class basketball is here to stay. Forget living the dream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
addictedtoIU Posted September 10, 2020 Report Share Posted September 10, 2020 If all teams are invited and since it's pretty hard to rank from #1 to #350, they should just do random selections to fill the brackets. Montana State can be a #1 seed even though they'll most likely go home on the first week. So if that happens, a team should win up to 9 consecutive games to win the championship. That seems difficult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted September 10, 2020 Report Share Posted September 10, 2020 1 hour ago, addictedtoIU said: If all teams are invited and since it's pretty hard to rank from #1 to #350, they should just do random selections to fill the brackets. Montana State can be a #1 seed even though they'll most likely go home on the first week. So if that happens, a team should win up to 9 consecutive games to win the championship. That seems difficult. Blind draw? Hell, I like that notion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IowaHoosierFan Posted September 10, 2020 Report Share Posted September 10, 2020 1 hour ago, addictedtoIU said: If all teams are invited and since it's pretty hard to rank from #1 to #350, they should just do random selections to fill the brackets. Montana State can be a #1 seed even though they'll most likely go home on the first week. So if that happens, a team should win up to 9 consecutive games to win the championship. That seems difficult. I was thinking this exact same thing. And honestly, it should be like that every year. If you're selected for the 64, then its random, winner takes all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted September 10, 2020 Report Share Posted September 10, 2020 2 hours ago, milehiiu said: And my old high school made it to the 3rd class championship game with Brandon Dawson vs Washington with Cody Zeller. All the while watching that game... I could not get it out of my mind....what if....both of those two teams made it to the championship game.... sans class bb. Oh... I know you are right. Indiana class basketball is here to stay. Forget living the dream. Best team in the state was in 2A that year, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milehiiu Posted September 10, 2020 Report Share Posted September 10, 2020 30 minutes ago, KoB2011 said: Best team in the state was in 2A that year, IMO. See. That's what I am talking about. It's not having another miracle. But the opportunity to chase your dream. Growing up in Gary, Indiana... with one class basketball.... it was a thrill for me to see a school to even win a Sectional that was not expected to.And heaven forbid go on to win the first game of a Regional. Memories that will last those players a life time... rather than getting a participation trophy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted September 10, 2020 Report Share Posted September 10, 2020 https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/29844881/acc-proposal-346-team-ncaa-college-basketball-tournament-work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted September 11, 2020 Report Share Posted September 11, 2020 11 hours ago, IU Scott said: https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/29844881/acc-proposal-346-team-ncaa-college-basketball-tournament-work I still maintain 128 teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted September 11, 2020 Report Share Posted September 11, 2020 3 hours ago, rico said: I still maintain 128 teams. Don't sound the NCAA has any plans to expand the turnament Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted September 11, 2020 Report Share Posted September 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, IU Scott said: Don't sound the NCAA has any plans to expand the turnament Yet........................................ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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