Hoosierhoopster Posted December 28, 2020 Report Share Posted December 28, 2020 6 minutes ago, BobSaccamanno said: I prefer the current brand of ball infinitely more than Crean’s. I never thought Crean’s style made any sense at Indiana. But we won the B1G several times, were often ranked, had SW16’s, had the Yogi, Cody, Wat, Vic years, and OG and Bryant, and were again one of the better teams in college ball — but with big lapses after guys left early, and then a drop off in recruiting which spelled the end. Seems right now most would be pretty happy with those B1G titles and March runs. say what you will about Crean and his over emphasis on offense, but now we have almost the opposite, ugly offense and inability to score consistently. Need to find the in between, hopefully CAM will get us there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted December 28, 2020 Report Share Posted December 28, 2020 1 minute ago, rico said: God, I loved that season. Loved the conference season, not so much the non conference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billingsley99 Posted December 28, 2020 Report Share Posted December 28, 2020 1 minute ago, IU Scott said: I don't think it is boring either but that the perception that many have. Because its not their team or when they lose that way. I coached teams in which parents would rather us go 0 and 20 and average 80 points a game than to be 14-6 average 40 a game. It's crazy. When you think of Wisconsin, Virginia, UK even across the board most people can throw out some words to identify that program. IU does not have that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted December 28, 2020 Report Share Posted December 28, 2020 4 minutes ago, IU Scott said: For me that year was RMK best coaching job at IU. That team had no business winning the conference that year with all the talent that was in the conference. Yeah, and '89-'90 was his worst. Regardless. I want results. I want them now. And I want them on the "W" side of the ledger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted December 28, 2020 Report Share Posted December 28, 2020 12 minutes ago, Hoosierhoopster said: No, frankly it’s baseless to say he’s a three year guy, he could not even practice let alone play for a year. No problem with critiquing his mental mistakes but when you stand firm on calling him a 3 year guy that just takes away from credibility. Semantics...No, he hasn't played for 3 years...But I would like to think he was attending and watching practices, going to film sessions on the offensive and defensive schemes, and occasionally looking at the playbook when he was out... And I know I sound like a broken record on this, but while a coach might help in a player's development, the player himself has the final say in that... I learned a long time ago in things that affected my future, the only person I could really rely on was me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted December 28, 2020 Report Share Posted December 28, 2020 1 minute ago, Billingsley99 said: Because its not their team or when they lose that way. I coached teams in which parents would rather us go 0 and 20 and average 80 points a game than to be 14-6 average 40 a game. It's crazy. When you think of Wisconsin, Virginia, UK even across the board most people can throw out some words to identify that program. IU does not have that What is UK identity one and done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted December 28, 2020 Report Share Posted December 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, rico said: Yeah, and '89-'90 was his worst. Regardless. I want results. I want them now. And I want them on the "W" side of the ledger. 89-90 team was do young but did go undefeated in the non conference but went 8-10 in conference. Most didn't think we deserved a bid that year and thought the only reason was RMK was our coach. I would say his worst was 84-85. We came off of an elite 8 with everyone coming back but didn't make the tournament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted December 28, 2020 Report Share Posted December 28, 2020 1 minute ago, IU Scott said: What is UK identity one and done We can make fun of UK all we want...their program is better than ours on the "W" side of the ledger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted December 28, 2020 Report Share Posted December 28, 2020 1 minute ago, IU Scott said: 89-90 team was do young but did go undefeated in the non conference but went 8-10 in conference. Most didn't think we deserved a bid that year and thought the only reason was RMK was our coach. Cal would have won a championship with that team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billingsley99 Posted December 28, 2020 Report Share Posted December 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, IU Scott said: What is UK identity one and done Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted December 28, 2020 Report Share Posted December 28, 2020 1 minute ago, rico said: We can make fun of UK all we want...their program is better than ours on the "W" side of the ledger. Might be but still wouldn't want to be them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted December 28, 2020 Report Share Posted December 28, 2020 1 minute ago, IU Scott said: Might be but still wouldn't want to be them I don't like being us right now...what's the diff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted December 28, 2020 Report Share Posted December 28, 2020 Just now, rico said: I don't like being us right now...what's the diff? I like us better than UK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted December 28, 2020 Report Share Posted December 28, 2020 Just now, IU Scott said: I like us better than UK You miss my points my friend. Carry on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FKIM01 Posted December 28, 2020 Report Share Posted December 28, 2020 6 minutes ago, rico said: We can make fun of UK all we want...their program is better than ours on the "W" side of the ledger. Not this year! 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierhoopster Posted December 28, 2020 Report Share Posted December 28, 2020 8 minutes ago, IUFLA said: Semantics...No, he hasn't played for 3 years...But I would like to think he was attending and watching practices, going to film sessions on the offensive and defensive schemes, and occasionally looking at the playbook when he was out... And I know I sound like a broken record on this, but while a coach might help in a player's development, the player himself has the final say in that... I learned a long time ago in things that affected my future, the only person I could really rely on was me... If you ever played basketball you’d know it’s not about paper and film. When you lose an entire year, you lose it. I’ll stop here though you refuse to acknowledge that so not getting anywhere in the discussion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted December 28, 2020 Report Share Posted December 28, 2020 6 minutes ago, Billingsley99 said: Yes. Not an identity I want Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billingsley99 Posted December 28, 2020 Report Share Posted December 28, 2020 Just now, IU Scott said: Not an identity I want Me either but what do we have as identity in 4 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted December 28, 2020 Report Share Posted December 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, Billingsley99 said: Me either but what do we have as identity in 4 years. Defense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billingsley99 Posted December 28, 2020 Report Share Posted December 28, 2020 4 minutes ago, IU Scott said: Defense Ayo and Audige say hello. Defense is good but not great. In league play down 5he stretch the other teams best player has had their way with us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCHoosier32 Posted December 28, 2020 Report Share Posted December 28, 2020 i don't often agree with Scott, but... i will always look forward to watching IU bball. i watched pretty much very game the 6-25 season. side note there - i do think those guys gave it everything they had! i look forward to watching IU bball every chance i get. i am critical and often negative, but will always watch. i kind of don't get not watching unless we are really really good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted December 28, 2020 Report Share Posted December 28, 2020 12 minutes ago, Hoosierhoopster said: If you ever played basketball you’d know it’s not about paper and film. When you lose an entire year, you lose it. I’ll stop here though you refuse to acknowledge that so not getting anywhere in the discussion Yes, I've played plenty... But both of us have also acknowledged that Jerome makes mental mistakes... Thus my comment on knowing the schemes... Look, I like Jerome...He seems like a good kid and I wish things had gone differently for him at IU...I truly hope he can get his head together and be a contributing member of this team... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted December 28, 2020 Report Share Posted December 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, NCHoosier32 said: i don't often agree with Scott, but... i will always look forward to watching IU bball. i watched pretty much very game the 6-25 season. side note there - i do think those guys gave it everything they had! i look forward to watching IU bball every chance i get. i am critical and often negative, but will always watch. i kind of don't get not watching unless we are really really good. I don't think many agrees with my viewpoint on things LOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted December 28, 2020 Report Share Posted December 28, 2020 3 minutes ago, IU Scott said: I don't think many agrees with my viewpoint on things LOL! I wouldn't agree with you if it was me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted December 28, 2020 Report Share Posted December 28, 2020 3 minutes ago, IUFLA said: Yes, I've played plenty... But both of us have also acknowledged that Jerome makes mental mistakes... Thus my comment on knowing the schemes... Look, I like Jerome...He seems like a good kid and I wish things had gone differently for him at IU...I truly hope he can get his head together and be a contributing member of this team... Completely agree. I would love to see Hunter get more time, as he can help the offense and if he can develop it would be huge for the program. With that said, there's a difference between some defensive mistakes and being a bad defender. Every player is going to make mistakes, lots of IU's guys do, but Hunter's aren't really mistakes here and there, right now he's just a bad defender and he needs to clean that up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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