btownqb Posted January 15, 2021 Report Share Posted January 15, 2021 1 minute ago, IU Scott said: How many spots do we have and will we sign any guys in the Feb. signing period I have no idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier82 Posted January 15, 2021 Report Share Posted January 15, 2021 3 minutes ago, btownqb said: DR was the first example I thought of. Scott is a better athlete than Redding though, I will say that. He’s gotta get his 40 time down or it won’t matter to GMs. DR ran a 4.78 at the combine, The only recorded time I could find for Stevie was 4.83 and he needs to be sub 4.7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted January 15, 2021 Report Share Posted January 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, btownqb said: I have no idea. You slacking? LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted January 15, 2021 Report Share Posted January 15, 2021 1 minute ago, Hoosier82 said: He’s gotta get his 40 time down or it won’t matter to GMs. DR ran a 4.78 at the combine, The only recorded time I could find for Stevie was 4.83 and he needs to be sub 4.7 I'm not talking about RB. HB/TE role.. plus a good special teams guy. Only role in the NFL I can see him playing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted January 15, 2021 Report Share Posted January 15, 2021 6 minutes ago, btownqb said: I'm not talking about RB. HB/TE role.. plus a good special teams guy. Only role in the NFL I can see him playing. I see him being used as a FB...in a limited role. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Leathernecks Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 38 minutes ago, Hoosierfan1901 said: Symons would be a homerun hire. His defense at Liberty this year was terrific, he's only in his mid 30s, and he reminds me a lot of DeBoer on the other side of the ball. He had really good success at a small school and has worked his way up the ladder quickly by having success at each stop. If we can hire him, I would bet good money he'd eventually be added to Allen's list of coordinators who leave for a head coaching job. He also has experience coaching linebackers at Memphis, so we could probably bring him in without moving the rest of the coaches around. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, Leathernecks said: Symons would be a homerun hire. His defense at Liberty this year was terrific, he's only in his mid 30s, and he reminds me a lot of DeBoer on the other side of the ball. He had really good success at a small school and has worked his way up the ladder quickly by having success at each stop. If we can hire him, I would bet good money he'd eventually be added to Allen's list of coordinators who leave for a head coaching job. He also has experience coaching linebackers at Memphis, so we could probably bring him in without moving the rest of the coaches around. Perfect. We can recruit Memphis even more: Fryfogle, Bedford, Williams, Hewitt, Cam Jones, Bedford, and Campbell. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobSaccamanno Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 Thanks for the research on Symons. Sounds terrific. I wonder about the Georgia DB coach, Charlton Warren. Could he be brought in for a different role? He doesn’t seem to be a 4-2-5 guy which you would think is an obvious prerequisite. Mike Hart was a terrific recruiter and Warren could bring that element even if he’s coaching a different position. I see from his bio he has also coordinated specials. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierfan1901 Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 25 minutes ago, BobSaccamanno said: Thanks for the research on Symons. Sounds terrific. I wonder about the Georgia DB coach, Charlton Warren. Could he be brought in for a different role? He doesn’t seem to be a 4-2-5 guy which you would think is an obvious prerequisite. Mike Hart was a terrific recruiter and Warren could bring that element even if he’s coaching a different position. I see from his bio he has also coordinated specials. In my opinion, it could be his recruiting abilities, but I’m sure CTA can bend a little bit on 4-2-5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 29 minutes ago, BobSaccamanno said: Thanks for the research on Symons. Sounds terrific. I wonder about the Georgia DB coach, Charlton Warren. Could he be brought in for a different role? He doesn’t seem to be a 4-2-5 guy which you would think is an obvious prerequisite. Mike Hart was a terrific recruiter and Warren could bring that element even if he’s coaching a different position. I see from his bio he has also coordinated specials. No where to put him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leathernecks Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 31 minutes ago, Hoosierfan1901 said: In my opinion, it could be his recruiting abilities, but I’m sure CTA can bend a little bit on 4-2-5 Allen isn't going to bend from the 4-2-5. He said in an interview he isn't changing from it, and is going to hire a DC who is familiar with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leathernecks Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 29 minutes ago, btownqb said: No where to put him. And for the first time, we don't have any defensive position coaches that I would want replaced. All of them are really strong right now. Moving Teagardin to special teams was a big move last offseason. It upgraded our safeties and our special teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leathernecks Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 As I'm looking more into Symons, I see that the Liberty safeties coach is going to be the defensive coordinator for Wommack at South Alabama. Not that it really means anything, just kind of an interesting note. The more I look into Symons, the more I think he'd be a grand slam hire. I can't find anything about his salary at Liberty, but you'd think IU would be able to offer a decent raise. Also, if he was in to interview, and he doesn't get it, that must mean whoever we get is extremely qualified. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierfan1901 Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 22 minutes ago, Leathernecks said: As I'm looking more into Symons, I see that the Liberty safeties coach is going to be the defensive coordinator for Wommack at South Alabama. Not that it really means anything, just kind of an interesting note. The more I look into Symons, the more I think he'd be a grand slam hire. I can't find anything about his salary at Liberty, but you'd think IU would be able to offer a decent raise. Also, if he was in to interview, and he doesn't get it, that must mean whoever we get is extremely qualified. When Symons was at Memphis his yearly salary was $200k 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leathernecks Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Hoosierfan1901 said: When Symons was at Memphis his yearly salary was $200k I would guess if we do offer him we'd start around $450,000 based on Sheridan and Wommack's salaries. I can't imagine Liberty was paying him that much. I would think we could go much higher too if we really wanted him. Edited January 16, 2021 by Leathernecks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leathernecks Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 Charlton Warren's salary this year was $600,000, so I would think if we're willing to bring him in for an interview, we're willing to offer at least that much if necessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierfan1901 Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 5 minutes ago, Leathernecks said: I would guess if we do offer him we'd start around $450,000 based on Sheridan and Wommack's salaries. I can't imagine Liberty was paying him that much. I would think we could go much higher too if we really wanted him. I couldn’t find any further information, but I would estimate his salary from $300,000 to $400,000 though Liberty does spend a good amount of money on HC Freeze with a salary at $3,000,000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierfan1901 Posted January 16, 2021 Report Share Posted January 16, 2021 For a new RB Coach, not too sure about that subject right now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steubenhoosier Posted January 17, 2021 Report Share Posted January 17, 2021 With Scott leaving... know we have a good stable of running backs now but I hope that the loss of Hart doesn’t come back to bite us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted January 17, 2021 Report Share Posted January 17, 2021 Just now, Steubenhoosier said: With Scott leaving... know we have a good stable of running backs now but I hope that the loss of Hart doesn’t come back to bite us I am not going anywhere in LOL! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steubenhoosier Posted January 17, 2021 Report Share Posted January 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, IU Scott said: I am not going anywhere in LOL! I hope you get drafted. Know you could use the work! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierfan1901 Posted January 17, 2021 Report Share Posted January 17, 2021 6 minutes ago, IU Scott said: I am not going anywhere in LOL! Scott, you’re returning to use up your remaining eligibility? I thought you were a projected 1st rounder! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted January 17, 2021 Report Share Posted January 17, 2021 4 minutes ago, Steubenhoosier said: I hope you get drafted. Know you could use the work! I am holding out for management. Reference from Christmas Vacation 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leathernecks Posted January 17, 2021 Report Share Posted January 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Steubenhoosier said: With Scott leaving... know we have a good stable of running backs now but I hope that the loss of Hart doesn’t come back to bite us Our running game has barely existed the last 2 seasons, so not too worried about it. Not saying Hart shouldered all of that blame, but the combination of Hart, Hiller, and Sheridan was really bad this year. 111th out of 127 in yards per rush. I think with James and Baldwin, we'll be alright with talent. Just need to figure out how to coach/utilize it better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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